Something we may see this week

[Mikesmith29150]

[TWEET]897126925981843456[/TWEET]
Waiting for nkosi to take the job

Flies in the face of everything the insiders have been saying.

It confirms exactly what I've been saying.

Perry is behind the veterans, but Richt is giving him (a true freshman who just bombed the scrimmage) every opportunity to win the job. That should be telling.

What D Money is telling you simple ones is that he doesn't feel Rosier or Sheriff is Division 1 caliber qb's and he doesn't feel we can win with them leading us. I feel the same. Hopefully, if either one is named starter I'm wrong

 

[demcanes26]

This is simple. At this point Richt should know which QB between Rosier and Shireffs he'd choose as the starter. The only unknown Remaining is if Perry, who is clearly the most talented, is ready to start. Therefore the battle should be narrowed to Perry and Shireffs (or Perry).

This isn't complicated in any way. Perry gives us the best chance to win big. If he's not ready it comes down to one of the other two

You're right. It is simple. It's simple to think you should eliminate one of the top 2 performers from a 3 way battle after a week of practice because you want to get the third place guy more reps because that's the guy the fans like.

Whatever way you choose to look at it is fine with me, as long as that happens sooner than later

It shouldn't happen sooner than later. The players know who's playing the best. If Rick did that, he should just retire, because competition was just lip service.

 

[LuCane]

Apparently, Richt said today there isn't a timetable on the decision. If so, I'm very excited he's taken that approach. Let this situation unfold. No reason to get up or down so long as we choose the dude most likely to be effective for us this season. We have a ton of options as to how this can be approached and work guys in based on merit.

Yep, that's good to hear. Another interesting thing he said was that he will be carrying the competition into the season.

I had Perry winning the job in camp, but we may be looking at a Deshaun Watson/Lamar Jackson situation where he takes over midseason.

The bolded is what I've been repeating since Saturday. It's totally fine and, really, should be expected either way. It's just not sensical to put an arbitrary deadline on the situation. Perry just got here. The older guys are still improving. The situation is fluid and some are calling for a fixed response. If Perry's as talented as we all hope, there are ways to find out if he's more effective without playing the dangerous game of losing our best chance to win, the team or hurting Perry himself.

For example, as I've already mentioned, let's say one of the older guys wins the job. Let's say Perry still runs 2nd or 3rd. Perhaps the starter is limited on certain aspects. Perhaps Perry can be brought along with specific packages. There is a ton of precedent for this approach. Sure, there are also risks, but they are far less significant to the critical priorities: winning and developing the team for meaningful games.

 

[JG13]

Here's a better bet than Perry starting against FSU:

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Asian girls online is a sure thing, amirite?

LOL

 

[brock]

If we put Perry under center this season, we are essentially playing for next year, because never in the history of college football have we seen a true freshman QB, in a sophisticated passing attack go gangbusters.

Except for our last one, who led the ACC in passing and passer rating.

That team went 6-7

Kaaya had a good freshman season. But we absolutely have seen it at clemson with Watson his freshman season

 

[fincane]

[TWEET]897126925981843456[/TWEET]
Waiting for nkosi to take the job

Flies in the face of everything the insiders have been saying.

It confirms exactly what I've been saying.

Perry is behind the veterans, but Richt is giving him (a true freshman who just bombed the scrimmage) every opportunity to win the job. That should be telling.

What D Money is telling you simple ones is that he doesn't feel Rosier or Sheriff is Division 1 caliber qb's and he doesn't feel we can win with them leading us. I feel the same. Hopefully, if either one is named starter I'm wrong

And what I'm telling you is DMoney is far from a QB expert and has been wrong multiple times about QBs he's watched in practice. DMoney is a guy with access. Not a coach. You taking DMoney's word as if he's Bill Walsh proves that you're simple.

 

[Salt]

as soon as I read that Rosier never bothered to watch film before Richt got here was enough to know he is not the qb you want managing your offense. I doubt the prior coaches were locking the film room so Rosier couldn't get in.

He didn't say that. Rosier said he didn't watch film before he had to start against Duke in 2015. It is still a horrendous quote but you are changing the quote.

I was not attempting to quote or else I would have used these " " but still doesn't detract from my point.

He wasn't preparing correctly two seasons ago and in that same quote he told everyone that he is now looking at film of the defense he sees in practice all the time and the film of future opponents.

Does that apparent change in preparation detract from the point?

Rosier must be punished for being honest about how unprepared he was as a freshmans under the worst staff in UM history.

Sherriffs was a freshmans under the last staff too. And it has nothing to do with his honesty. That is commendable. It has to do with his preparation up to this point which obviously has him behind because he is neck and neck with a guy that has been there 2 years as opposed to 4.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

If we put Perry under center this season, we are essentially playing for next year, because never in the history of college football have we seen a true freshman QB, in a sophisticated passing attack go gangbusters.

Except for our last one, who led the ACC in passing and passer rating.

That team went 6-7

Kaaya had a good freshman season. But we absolutely have seen it at clemson with Watson his freshman season

You're a cement head, broke. He said "our" last one.

Go back to scouring twitter, Googling, and shopping with your girlfriends.

 

[Mikesmith29150]

Richt comments and thinking is as clear as day, he eventually wants nkosi to take over the job whether that be before the first game or during the season. Richt at first said he wanted to name a starter after the second scrimmage or so now he's saying he's not doing that. Also that there is going to be an open competition even if the starter is named through the season. He's staying patient because he's waiting for perry to take the job period..

Kan kan, kan

 

[The Svengali]

We lived through Coker, Shannon, Nevin Shapiro, Golden---we have been in the bowels of football **** for 11 years---and now we have found freedom...we finally have a team that legitimately has a shot at #6 , yet you guys want a true freshman under center?? WHAT?!?!?

Give me Evan or Rosier so we can go take what's ours THIS YEAR!

 

[DMoney]

Sims wasn't an elite QB recruit which is really what matters in this argument and he was a low 4-star athlete. Not exactly an elite recruit by any standard.

He was a four-star with offers from Alabama, Georgia and Florida State. He broke Alabama's single-season passing record as a senior. There is no comparison between him and our guys, at least at this point.

That idea of yours probably has something to do with the ledge you've stepped out on and that ranting on Pete's podcast.

You care more about my takes than I do. That's evident by your sad and obsessive posting history, going back years.

"Don't pay attention to DMoney's practice takes, it's all fluff."- fincane

"Can you believe what DMoney said at 23:34 of his latest podcast?!" -fincane

Actually, I shouldn't have said that. Please keep clicking, listening, and obsessing.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Here's a better bet than Perry starting against FSU:

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Asian girls online is a sure thing, amirite?

LOL. This is more predicative of your browsing history than our starting QB.

Oh yeah, well umm, I....awww fūck it. Never mind.

 

[Memnon]

I think it's pretty obvious what's happening.

Rosier & Shirreffs have been in the lead since the Spring, Richt wanted to give Perry a legit shot, but it's too early to put him in right now.

He's not going to name the starter right away, but it's not going to be Perry & that's perfectly fine for a True Freshman.

@ FSU is the litmus test for Rosier/Shirreffs, whoever is named the starter for Bethune will be back under the scope depending on how they play in that game.

If whoever starts has a bad game vs FSU, then they'll probably have to worry about the other taking their job & vice versa.

But the top 2 QB's right now & have been since Spring is Rosier & Shirreffs, if Perry isn't redshirted (which he very well could be), he'll be 3rd on Depth Chart & we won't see him until late 4th quarter mop up duty.

I think yall know I'm as a big a Perry fan as anyone on here, but either team officials have been purposely telling the insiders misdirected info, or they just wanted to see it happen before it actually did.

Richt has been giving Shirreffs more of look than anybody, he's basically tried to see what he has with him in every scrimmage, gave him a chance to take the job from Rosier.

After this 2nd scrimmage, if Rosier performs well he'll most likely be named the starter for the season opener, but again @ FSU will determine who finishes the season as the starter.

 

[rsa coral gables]

Apparently, Richt said today there isn't a timetable on the decision. If so, I'm very excited he's taken that approach. Let this situation unfold. No reason to get up or down so long as we choose the dude most likely to be effective for us this season. We have a ton of options as to how this can be approached and work guys in based on merit.

Yep, that's good to hear. Another interesting thing he said was that he will be carrying the competition into the season.

I had Perry winning the job in camp, but we may be looking at a Deshaun Watson/Lamar Jackson situation where he takes over midseason.

The bolded is what I've been repeating since Saturday. It's totally fine and, really, should be expected either way. It's just not sensical to put an arbitrary deadline on the situation. Perry just got here. The older guys are still improving. The situation is fluid and some are calling for a fixed response. If Perry's as talented as we all hope, there are ways to find out if he's more effective without playing the dangerous game of losing our best chance to win, the team or hurting Perry himself.

For example, as I've already mentioned, let's say one of the older guys wins the job. Let's say Perry still runs 2nd or 3rd. Perhaps the starter is limited on certain aspects. Perhaps Perry can be brought along with specific packages. There is a ton of precedent for this approach. Sure, there are also risks, but they are far less significant to the critical priorities: winning and developing the team for meaningful games.

rigid thinking leads to poor results and poor adjustments. it seems clear that perry is the best talent, but that doesn't mean he is ready RIGHT NOW. and just because he might be the best talent, does not mean he will give you the best chance of winning RIGHT NOW.

i have no problem with rosier or sherriffs playing right now IF they are playing better RIGHT NOW. perry should overcome them some time in the future, whether it is game 1 or game 5, i trust richt to make that decision. richt has the luxury of being conservative, given the talent at the skill positions and on defense. he needs a QB that will not make mistakes and lose games.

on another note, did Perry decide not to enroll early or is that he could not enroll early. important difference.

 

[fincane]

If we put Perry under center this season, we are essentially playing for next year, because never in the history of college football have we seen a true freshman QB, in a sophisticated passing attack go gangbusters.

Except for our last one, who led the ACC in passing and passer rating.

That team went 6-7

Kaaya had a good freshman season. But we absolutely have seen it at clemson with Watson his freshman season

Deshaun Watson didn't start the year and didn't win 10 games and got hurt. He also only started 6 games his freshman year. Lets just leave out that Watson was one of the best college QBs of all time. Unless you're predicting Perry will be one of the best college QBs to ever play bringing up Watson is asinine.

 

[The Franchise]

Do you guys in the "Perry should start as a True Freshman" camp want to win big this year or not? Are you more concerned about 2018 or 2017?

I'm concerned about winning this year. And I'm concerned that the limited skillsets of our older QBs will prevent us from doing so.

Blake Sims appears to be the hot comparison. Sims was an elite recruit who broke Alabama's passing record as a senior. He was athletic enough to get NFL looks as a running back. It's a crap comparison.

Maybe I'm missing something when I watch our older guys. Wouldn't be the first time. But Richt named Vinny Testaverde as co-#2 last year after camp. That should be a pretty big clue as to what we're dealing with here.

If one of them wins the job, I'll get behind them. They have improved. But there's a reason I'm cheering so hard for Perry, and it has nothing to do with his sparkling personality or some message board prediction.

I'm just not seeing logic or reason here.

Just a lot of wishful thinking.

The logic is Blake Sims was a good RB, so that completely debunks the thought that there were more talented QBs on Alabaga's roster when he got the starting job and let them to a great season as a QB.

The ability of a young guy to spin it better than an older guy isn't always the only factor a good coach should look at.

 

[The Svengali]

I like you D$, but I can't ride with you on this Perry nonsense. No way, man.

This team is built to do it now. Putting Perry under center = playing for 2018

 

[Mikesmith29150]

[TWEET]897126925981843456[/TWEET]
Waiting for nkosi to take the job

Flies in the face of everything the insiders have been saying.

It confirms exactly what I've been saying.

Perry is behind the veterans, but Richt is giving him (a true freshman who just bombed the scrimmage) every opportunity to win the job. That should be telling.

What D Money is telling you simple ones is that he doesn't feel Rosier or Sheriff is Division 1 caliber qb's and he doesn't feel we can win with them leading us. I feel the same. Hopefully, if either one is named starter I'm wrong

And what I'm telling you is DMoney is far from a QB expert and has been wrong multiple times about QBs he's watched in practice. DMoney is a guy with access. Not a coach. You taking DMoney's word as if he's Bill Walsh proves that you're simple.

Nope Rosier is a turn over machine and Evan is Mr. Noodle arm. FACT. Please ease the crack pipe out of your mouth

 

[Meat]

Seems like of all the choices, Perry is the high-risk, high-reward one.

I'm a riverboat gambler, so I say roll with Perry.

 

[DMoney]

The logic is Blake Sims was a good RB, so that completely debunks the thought that there were more talented QBs on Alabaga's roster when he got the starting job and let them to a great season as a QB.

Who is Alabama's single-season passing leader?