Someone explain this defensive formation to me please

[Coach Macho]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

 

[Canesfan1899]

This is almost guaranteed to be another 500+ yard performance by Dorito.

Someone's going 80 yards.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

There was a play last year, I believe against G Tech, where it was either 3rd and goal or 4th and goal from the 1 foot line....and we had 2 safeties standing in the back of the end zone.

No idea how Coley or D'Onfrio are coordinating a unit at this level. Two of the worst coordinators in America.

 

[Robbymoto]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

There was a play last year, I believe against G Tech, where it was either 3rd and goal or 4th and goal from the 1 foot line....and we had 2 safeties standing in the back of the end zone.

No idea how Coley or D'Onfrio are coordinating a unit at this level. Two of the worst coordinators in America.

Yep. If you told someone they would not believe you. Then you show them the pic and...

 

[rok]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

 

[AUcane]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

 

[Bigtip]

What makes it so confusing is that not only does it put us in a matchup nightmare against the pass, with McCord or Harris lined up against a receiver out in space, but it also doesn't make any sense against the run. The only justification for staying in a base defense against 3+ WRs would be to stop the run, but the only way you stop the run is to outnumber the other team in the box (by having McCord, Armbrister and Perryman along with the 3 down lineman close to the LOS). But by leaving McCord on the field and having him way out on the perimeter, he's not going to be able to help against the run and he's clearly not going to be able to get to the QB in time. Even if they run in his direction, now you have him way out in space, trying to stop the run like a true OLB, which he is not.

What we end up with is a guy who is a very effective pass rusher either covering a WR (bad), trying to stop the run from way out wide (bad) and playing a reactionary role instead of an attacking role, where he has proven to be much more effective (bad).

exactly. said another way:

a ******* grade schooler that plays Madden can see that this is garbage

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

It's kind of like an abstract piece of artwork....I see 3 safeties standing in a compressed acute triangle.

Anyone else wanna share their thoughts with the class?

 

[rok]

We concede more 3rd downs than anyone in football. These plays are over before the ball is snapped. I'm beginning to get upset again.

 

[Robbymoto]

LOLZ. Compressed acute triangle.

Made only worse by the fact they are 8 yards off the line on a third and short from the 10. Epic.

Please make it stop.

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

It's kind of like an abstract piece of artwork....I see 3 safeties standing in a compressed acute triangle.

Anyone else wanna share their thoughts with the class?

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Maybe the aforementioned triangle is tasked with tackling that lone referee standing in between them?

I mean honestly...I've been watching football my entire life and I've never, EVER seen a pre-snap alignment like this. How is this guy employed?

 

[ghost2]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

It's kind of like an abstract piece of artwork....I see 3 safeties standing in a compressed acute triangle.

Anyone else wanna share their thoughts with the class?

It's a schooner!

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

Somebody showed me a screen shot from the UL game where we had 2-high safeties and LB's 7 yards off the ball on 4th and short.

*sigh*

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

It's kind of like an abstract piece of artwork....I see 3 safeties standing in a compressed acute triangle.

Anyone else wanna share their thoughts with the class?

It's a schooner!

Haha...you dumb *******. It's not a schooner, it's a sail boat.

 

[The Real Kirk Lazarus]

 

[LuCane]

What makes it so confusing is that not only does it put us in a matchup nightmare against the pass, with McCord or Harris lined up against a receiver out in space, but it also doesn't make any sense against the run. The only justification for staying in a base defense against 3+ WRs would be to stop the run, but the only way you stop the run is to outnumber the other team in the box (by having McCord, Armbrister and Perryman along with the 3 down lineman close to the LOS). But by leaving McCord on the field and having him way out on the perimeter, he's not going to be able to help against the run and he's clearly not going to be able to get to the QB in time. Even if they run in his direction, now you have him way out in space, trying to stop the run like a true OLB, which he is not.

What we end up with is a guy who is a very effective pass rusher either covering a WR (bad), trying to stop the run from way out wide (bad) and playing a reactionary role instead of an attacking role, where he has proven to be much more effective (bad).

What you really end up with is tipping the offense off on exactly what you are doing. To me, that's the worst thing about the manipulation of our defensive looks. I rather have Mccord playing legitimate slot Corner than having him play slot Corner and giving the QB/offense outstanding pre-snap information.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

The Wishbone Defense

that **** looks like we're on offense and the I back is lined up 7 yards deep, getting ready for a toss sweep.

It's kind of like an abstract piece of artwork....I see 3 safeties standing in a compressed acute triangle.

Anyone else wanna share their thoughts with the class?

It's a schooner!

Haha...you dumb *******. It's not a schooner, it's a sail boat.

It's a fail boat.

 

[RaiseCane]

What makes it so confusing is that not only does it put us in a matchup nightmare against the pass, with McCord or Harris lined up against a receiver out in space, but it also doesn't make any sense against the run. The only justification for staying in a base defense against 3+ WRs would be to stop the run, but the only way you stop the run is to outnumber the other team in the box (by having McCord, Armbrister and Perryman along with the 3 down lineman close to the LOS). But by leaving McCord on the field and having him way out on the perimeter, he's not going to be able to help against the run and he's clearly not going to be able to get to the QB in time. Even if they run in his direction, now you have him way out in space, trying to stop the run like a true OLB, which he is not.

What we end up with is a guy who is a very effective pass rusher either covering a WR (bad), trying to stop the run from way out wide (bad) and playing a reactionary role instead of an attacking role, where he has proven to be much more effective (bad).

What you really end up with is tipping the offense off on exactly what you are doing. To me, that's the worst thing about the manipulation of our defensive looks. I rather have Mccord playing legitimate slot Corner than having him play slot Corner and giving the QB/offense outstanding pre-snap information.

And to build on your point, what's frustrating about allowing offenses to manipulate our defense through motion and formation and allowing offenses to know what we're doing (other than the obvious ability to attack what we're doing) is that using odd fronts and "multiple" looks should allow for a defense to maximize unpredictability. Having only three guys with their hands on the ground (or in the frog stance in our defense) means that we should be able to bring pressure from more unexpected places and attack with our LBs/rush ends. Instead, we allow our rush ends to line up 10+ yards outside the tackles, rendering them virtually useless, leaving our "multiple" fronts outnumbered in the box and without the ability to rush the passer or set the edge against the run. Ark State had a couple runs to the outside where there was no one on the edge and they got 5+ yards. I don't know why they didn't go to that more, and I am sure that Nebraska will.

 

[Bennubird]

1-4-6 FML

 

[Cane Dynasty]

1-4-6 FML

#Multiple

 

[valid]

Dorito must honestly think he knows more than anyone else. What other coaches run defenses out of the formations we have seen in this thread?