forums

Some thoughts on the Louisville loss

View as article
Advertisement
TrumpyCane said:
We're ranked 9 right now, TrumpyCane is not sure which idiots are saying we won't make it if we win out
Click to expand...
I was one of those.

This is based on 2 ACC teams going:
Louisville wins their final 4 home games easily.
They destroy SMU and VT on the road.*

We take care of biz at home,
but are in dog fights with Pitt ...
SMU and VT.*

GT beats UVA in the ACCCG*

That's my scenario.
Louisville's 11/22 game at SMU would be the dagger for us.

GT goes.
Canes- 11-1, ranked 10/11 with the media throwing out the "how they're playing at this time" bullshet.
UL 11-1, jumped the Canes in the polls on 11/23, on a 7 game win streak with their only loss in OT.

With 2 ACC teams in, who goes?

THAT BEING SAID.
This scenario ain't happenin'.

UVA will not be in the ACCCG.
UL will pull a '24 Stanford somewhere along the line.
I think we will play well in, at least, two of our 3 road games.
And what happens if GT loses to NC St in an ACC re-set?
 
NJshoreCane said:
I was one of those.

This is based on 2 ACC teams going:
Louisville wins their final 4 home games easily.
They destroy SMU and VT on the road.*

We take care of biz at home,
but are in dog fights with Pitt ...
SMU and VT.*

GT beats UVA in the ACCCG*

That's my scenario.
Louisville's 11/22 game at SMU would be the dagger for us.

GT goes.
Canes- 11-1, ranked 10/11 with the media throwing out the "how they're playing at this time" bullshet.
UL 11-1, jumped the Canes in the polls on 11/23, on a 7 game win streak with their only loss in OT.

With 2 ACC teams in, who goes?

THAT BEING SAID.
This scenario ain't happenin'.

UVA will not be in the ACCCG.
UL will pull a '24 Stanford somewhere along the line.
I think we will play well in, at least, two of our 3 road games.
And what happens if GT loses to NC St in an ACC re-set?
Click to expand...

How are we going to be ranked 10/11 when we are ranked 9 currently, obviously the committee has different perspective but for the most part follow the AP especially at first

So we will somehow drop 2 spots for winning out?

TrumpyCane wants to know how that makes sense
 
TrumpyCane said:
How are we going to be ranked 10/11 when we are ranked 9 currently, obviously the committee has different perspective but for the most part follow the AP especially at first

So we will somehow drop 2 spots for winning out?

TrumpyCane wants to know how that makes sense
Click to expand...
We have put ourselves in a pickle with no wiggle room. Win out and the Acc title we will be a top 4 team more than likely . Lose another one and it’s done.
 
Cribby said:
We have put ourselves in a pickle with no wiggle room. Win out and the Acc title we will be a top 4 team more than likely . Lose another one and it’s done.
Click to expand...

- Win out and win the ACC, we are 100% a Top 4 seed and get a bye at 12-1 and ACC champ

- Win out and don't make it to Charlotte, we are 100% in the playoffs, but probably in the 5-8 range and hosting a playoff game at 11-1

- Lose in Charlotte, at 11-2, we are still in, but likely on the road in the first-round

- Lose another regular season game, and you need a miracle to sneak in as the 11 seed, but there's a very, very small chance of that. Would need ND to finish 10-2, USF to finish with 1 loss, Louisville to win the ACC, etc. etc. Forget it.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
- Win out and win the ACC, we are 100% a Top 4 seed and get a bye at 12-1 and ACC champ

- Win out and don't make it to Charlotte, we are 100% in the playoffs, but probably in the 5-8 range and hosting a playoff game at 11-1

- Lose in Charlotte, at 11-2, we are still in, but likely on the road in the first-round

- Lose another regular season game, and you need a miracle to sneak in as the 11 seed, but there's a very, very small chance of that. Would need ND to finish 10-2, USF to finish with 1 loss, Louisville to win the ACC, etc. etc. Forget it.
Click to expand...

This. There's still a path to get to the CFP with 2 losses but it's slim and we have to depend on a lot. History is not our side for that.

However, it would get interesting with 1 loss. I think there could be interesting discussions if GT/UL meet in the ACCCG and UL wins, that leaves 3, 1-loss ACC teams. We won't get 3 in the CFP and I'm hopeful our SOS gets us in, but the fact that GT is in the ACCCG probably has some merit.
 
Advertisement
NJshoreCane said:
I was one of those.

This is based on 2 ACC teams going:
Louisville wins their final 4 home games easily.
They destroy SMU and VT on the road.*

We take care of biz at home,
but are in dog fights with Pitt ...
SMU and VT.*

GT beats UVA in the ACCCG*

That's my scenario.
Louisville's 11/22 game at SMU would be the dagger for us.

GT goes.
Canes- 11-1, ranked 10/11 with the media throwing out the "how they're playing at this time" bullshet.
UL 11-1, jumped the Canes in the polls on 11/23, on a 7 game win streak with their only loss in OT.

With 2 ACC teams in, who goes?

THAT BEING SAID.
This scenario ain't happenin'.

UVA will not be in the ACCCG.
UL will pull a '24 Stanford somewhere along the line.
I think we will play well in, at least, two of our 3 road games.
And what happens if GT loses to NC St in an ACC re-set?
Click to expand...
only way we wouldnt make it in if we dont win out is there are three 11-1 teams at the end of the season and the committee isnt putting in 3 ACC teams.

either way, Lville will lose another game. GT will lose a game between now and UGA. UVA isnt finishing the conf slate unbeaten.

miami has some big november road games to survive though. lets focus on SMU come 11/1 first.
 
supacane said:
We could also have had a terrible day. Not sure why one game means every game is gonna be like that. We have to see how the team respond v Stanford and SMU. SMU is gonna be a tough game on the road, so will Pittsburgh and NC State is a challenge.

But unless you were saying we were not that good when we were 5-0 why would u then turn around after 1 loss and saying we are gonna struggle with every team? Smoke Stanford and get back on track. Simple. Games have to be played.
Click to expand...
Issues that did us in against Louisville showed up at various other points this season…overly conservative/predictable offense kept games close that shouldn’t be, penalties, struggles running the ball, lack of DL depth. All of that came to a head against Louisville and it’s far more than a one bad game situation. There are consistent and systemic that will continue to bite us in the *** if not addressed.
 
We need to just keep winning.

That being said there is a lot of shuffling to still happen over the next 2-3 weeks

Just this week you have Ole Miss/Ok - loser is out for now, as good as Bama is playing they have an SC team that every year Beamer pulls 1-2 out of no where to save his job and Sellers makes people drool at potential, Mizzou/Vandy - loser is out for now, Iowa State/BYU, LSU/A&M - A&M played with fire the last two weeks...can LSU put a full game together?

Thats just this week. The week after is when there arent many **** match up but those seem to be the weeks when weird things happen.
 
canesstevealum08 said:
Yes because you like everyone else thinks the acc is the big east in the year 2000. Louisville is better than South Carolina auburn kentucky. Are most teams inferior yes but some will always give you a game
Click to expand...
Not exactly. I felt Louisville was a game we could lose before the season and would be a tough game. But after we beat ND and the gator and then Florida State - yes I expected us to beat everyone and we should beat everyone- but obviously we didn’t and we will lose more unless they change their running scheme - SMU and Pitt are very possibly losses
 
hoops156 said:
only way we wouldnt make it in if we dont win out is there are three 11-1 teams at the end of the season and the committee isnt putting in 3 ACC teams.

either way, Lville will lose another game. GT will lose a game between now and UGA. UVA isnt finishing the conf slate unbeaten.

miami has some big november road games to survive though. lets focus on SMU come 11/1 first.
Click to expand...
I inadvertently left out South Florida tripping up in my scenario.

There were a lot of 'ifs' in my scenario. Not likely at all.
My response was only in response to "no way".

I agree on all of the above.
Moss is too inconsistent, they'll lose again.
The "mighty" GT has been walking a tightrope (see the end of the Wake game).
Forget UVA.

Can we do our part?
 
TrumpyCane said:
How are we going to be ranked 10/11 when we are ranked 9 currently, obviously the committee has different perspective but for the most part follow the AP especially at first

So we will somehow drop 2 spots for winning out?

TrumpyCane wants to know how that makes sense
Click to expand...
First, you have to give me credit for admitting to being the village idiot.

To answer your question:
Teams get jumped all the time, or stay put, on "bad" wins.
I'm only talking 1 or 2 spots.
We beat SMU by a FG...nice.
Fast forward to 11/22. If we slog away and win a 22-19 barn-burner in 2 OT against VT while UL puts a 42-10 number on @SMU, after giving @VT the same treatment three weeks earlier, that's a problem.

This is starting to grow hair.
It was only in response to Miami not getting in at 11-1 "no way".

Following the bouncing ball in each of my posts I followed with, "but it's not happening".
UL, GT, and UVA will all lose somewhere in the second half.

Of course, It's all moot if we ***** up again.
 
CanesSkins26 said:
Issues that did us in against Louisville showed up at various other points this season…overly conservative/predictable offense kept games close that shouldn’t be, penalties, struggles running the ball, lack of DL depth. All of that came to a head against Louisville and it’s far more than a one bad game situation. There are consistent and systemic that will continue to bite us in the *** if not addressed.
Click to expand...
THIS. This is what I mean when I say the blueprint is out. I am not emoting and throwing away the season after 1 loss to an "inferior" team.

We have a pattern of storming out the gate , then stagnating, and then regressing as the season wears on.

Multitude of reasons conjoing everytime - tendencies mapped, stubborness, lack of discipline, injuries, lack of depth, morale, etc..

Many other teams get better as the year goes on; I have yet to see Miami do that in a lonnnnng time... MAYBE only example I can straight face that is 2016 with bard kayak.
 
Advertisement
These are the teams that are going to be a threat to Miami taking spots.

Ohio State: Penn State, UCLA, @ Michigan
Indiana: UCLA, @ Penn State
Texas A&M: @ LSU, @Missouri, @ Texas
Bama: LSU, Oklahoma
UGA: Texas, GT
Oregon: USC, @ Washington
GT: Pitt, UGA
Ole Miss: @ Oklahoma
Vandy: Missouri, @ Texas, @Tennessee
BYU: @ Texas Tech, @ Cincinatti
OU: Ole Miss, @ Tennessee, @ Bama, Missouri, LSU

-Ohio State would have to lose two of those games for Miami to jump them
-Indiana would have to get beat pretty bad by one of those teams for Miami to jump them. It would be 50/50 1 loss Miami vs 1 loss IU
-Texas A&M would likely have to lose 2 of those games because their SOR will be better than Miami's at that point
-Bama losing to either of those games would be interesting but it would depend on how the rest of their ranked wins hold up. I think a 2 loss Bama is ranked above Miami
-UGA losing either of those games and I think Miami can jump them
-Oregon losing any of those and Miami jumps them
-GT is interesting because they can get in on winning the ACC. They may only need to beat Pitt.
-Ole Miss is probably in already
-Vandy losing any of those games and Miami jumps them
-BYU has to go undefeated
-Oklahoma isn't winning all those games.

The realistic view is that if Miami wins out and doesn't look like garbage they probably end up around #7. I think there's 5 teams in front of Miami that can lose one game and not drop below them, unless its to a team not on this list. Vandy and BYU are threats to leap Miami but probably unrealistic.
 
hurricaneman said:
These are the teams that are going to be a threat to Miami taking spots.

Ohio State: Penn State, UCLA, @ Michigan
Indiana: UCLA, @ Penn State
Texas A&M: @ LSU, @Missouri, @ Texas
Bama: LSU, Oklahoma
UGA: Texas, GT
Oregon: USC, @ Washington
GT: Pitt, UGA
Ole Miss: @ Oklahoma
Vandy: Missouri, @ Texas, @Tennessee
BYU: @ Texas Tech, @ Cincinatti
OU: Ole Miss, @ Tennessee, @ Bama, Missouri, LSU

-Ohio State would have to lose two of those games for Miami to jump them
-Indiana would have to get beat pretty bad by one of those teams for Miami to jump them. It would be 50/50 1 loss Miami vs 1 loss IU
-Texas A&M would likely have to lose 2 of those games because their SOR will be better than Miami's at that point
-Bama losing to either of those games would be interesting but it would depend on how the rest of their ranked wins hold up. I think a 2 loss Bama is ranked above Miami
-UGA losing either of those games and I think Miami can jump them
-Oregon losing any of those and Miami jumps them
-GT is interesting because they can get in on winning the ACC. They may only need to beat Pitt.
-Ole Miss is probably in already
-Vandy losing any of those games and Miami jumps them
-BYU has to go undefeated
-Oklahoma isn't winning all those games.

The realistic view is that if Miami wins out and doesn't look like garbage they probably end up around #7. I think there's 5 teams in front of Miami that can lose one game and not drop below them, unless its to a team not on this list. Vandy and BYU are threats to leap Miami but probably unrealistic.
Click to expand...

Ole Miss has @OU, @Miss State, UF, South Carolina

They can lose to any of them

Should TrumpyCane remind you they lost to a 3 win Kentucky team and a bad UF team with the playoffs on the line?
 
TrumpyCane said:
Ole Miss has @OU, @Miss State, UF, South Carolina

They can lose to any of them

Should TrumpyCane remind you they lost to a 3 win Kentucky team and a bad UF team with the playoffs on the line?
Click to expand...
You mean Lane da gawd Kiffen lost to teams he shouldn’t have?
 
Back
Top