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bobbydigius said:
There are always missed calls against us but not because they have it out against Miami but because refs in CFB are awful. We have a bias where we lock in only on our team. We have had plenty of calls go our way and the prime example of this was the roughing the passer call against Beck which kept us in the game and O’Connor should have gotten multiple unsportsmanlike conducts through out the game.

Ultimately we need to take care of what we can control and we just haven’t done that. All the while we sit there and preach discipline and being locked in but every week we are the opposite of that.
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Can we please stop with the fair catch discussion? I think it was a bad call as well but the refs blew the whistle so assuming that was a TD is just speculation. There were a lot of UL players who maybe would have tackled him. Regardless, two plays later he had a 61 yd catch and run that gave us first and goal at the 8. With any competent offense, we would have tied the score right then and there.

As far as the first interception goes, the LB made a great play. There was some contact, but I would not expect a PI call under any circumstances. Beck had a wide open target for what could have been at least a 10-15 yd gain and ignored him to throw into triple coverage. Inexcuseable.
 
MikeyCanez said:
We might be underrating Louisville. Not trying to make excuses for the coaching staff or the players, because we were plenty talented enough to win that game, but Louisville might end up 11-1 or 10-2 as well.
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They’re good but we shouldn’t lose to them with our talent. It was Beck and the also the scheme with the runs. The coaches have to fix the way they operate the run game.
 
I just listened to the Flo podcast, and I never realize how bad Mario's teams have been in penalties. Remember, this is out of like 130ish teams:

2018- 42nd in penalty yards
2019- 111th in penalty yards (64 penalty yards per game)
2020- 62nd in penalty yards (only played 7 games)
2021- 107th in penalty yards
2022- 103rd
2023- 106th
2024-118th

That's historically bad. Mario always preached discipline, but the stats don't lie. Mario's teams have continued to be one of the most penalized in the country
 
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ST26 said:
I just listened to the Flo podcast, and I never realize how bad Mario's teams have been in penalties. Remember, this is out of like 130ish teams:

2018- 42nd in penalty yards
2019- 111th in penalty yards (64 penalty yards per game)
2020- 62nd in penalty yards (only played 7 games)
2021- 107th in penalty yards
2022- 103rd
2023- 106th
2024-118th
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Its been a concern and why people challenge this notion that he is a perfectionist. He talks the talk for sure, but his team's are always undisciplined. This has been a major talking point from the jump with Mario and how its not just his lack of Xs and Os acumen, its the general lack of preparedness his teams show on game day. Always playing down to the talent of the other team and mental mistakes upon mental mistakes which leads to losing games every year that they should have won handily.
 
NJshoreCane said:
Not if Louisville wins out, but somehow gets locked out of the ACCCG.
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11-1 Miami would be ahead of 11-1 Louisville.

Louisville's OOC schedule is Eastern Kentucky, James Madison, Bowling Green, and Kentucky.

They'd have one ranked win, and it's against us, by 3. They wouldn't be a conference champion, or have played in a conference championship game, in your scenario.

Miami would have wins over a very likely 10-2 and playoff bound (or at least VERY prevalent in the conversation) Notre Dame, and the best G5 team in the country, who is currently +120 to make the playoff (by far the highest G5 team) in USF, by 30 points.

Louisville is +320 to make the playoffs right now, Miami is -270.

The committee has shown it values wins over good teams.
 
Dmoney referenced that the crowd at the beginning of the game was at best lackadaisical. This image was taken at 7:17. Where are the students? Look at the corners in the upper deck. It's no excuse for the players to come out flat however an engaged crowd does help does it not?

I think we will see a lighter crowd coming Saturday night due to a combination of it being Stanford and these kids/students and regular fans for that matter going to Halloween party's etc.

I get that we live in South Florida but 3 other Top 10 teams hosted games last week and they were filled to the brim including the image below of Indiana hosting Mich. State.

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Canes305 said:
Dmoney referenced that the crowd at the beginning of the game was at best lackadaisical. This image was taken at 7:17. Where are the students? Look at the corners in the upper deck. It's no excuse for the players to come out flat however an engaged crowd does help does it not?

I think we will see a lighter crowd coming Saturday night due to a combination of it being Stanford and these kids/students and regular fans for that matter going to Halloween party's etc.

I get that we live in South Florida but 3 other Top 10 teams hosted games last week and they were filled to the brim including the image below of Indiana hosting Mich. State.

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Tough…but if Indiana were located in South Beach, they wouldn’t be filled to the brim either lol
 
Canes305 said:
Dmoney referenced that the crowd at the beginning of the game was at best lackadaisical. This image was taken at 7:17. Where are the students? Look at the corners in the upper deck. It's no excuse for the players to come out flat however an engaged crowd does help does it not?

I think we will see a lighter crowd coming Saturday night due to a combination of it being Stanford and these kids/students and regular fans for that matter going to Halloween party's etc.

I get that we live in South Florida but 3 other Top 10 teams hosted games last week and they were filled to the brim including the image below of Indiana hosting Mich. State.

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Students at Miami don’t care about football. They don’t show up very well on Saturdays. You aren’t getting them there on a Friday.

Plus you are comparing a 12k private school that doesn’t have an on campus stadium to a big school like Indiana that has over 48k students or other Big10/SEC behemoths.
 
mirasuegui said:
HuhAfter Malachi's run to the ten, we pulled Brown, and bring in Lyle, when we know its going to be hand to hand contact. It looked like we were catering to Lyle, to keep him happy. How does Lyle wind up with 17 carries, and your two top RB's get like 10 carries between them.
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
11-1 Miami would be ahead of 11-1 Louisville.

Louisville's OOC schedule is Eastern Kentucky, James Madison, Bowling Green, and Kentucky.

They'd have one ranked win, and it's against us, by 3. They wouldn't be a conference champion, or have played in a conference championship game, in your scenario.

Miami would have wins over a very likely 10-2 and playoff bound (or at least VERY prevalent in the conversation) Notre Dame, and the best G5 team in the country, who is currently +120 to make the playoff (by far the highest G5 team) in USF, by 30 points.

Louisville is +320 to make the playoffs right now, Miami is -270.

The committee has shown it values wins over good teams.
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I have to disagree.
Head to head has to mean something, and they beat us at home.

ND is going to top out at 6 or 7, which is where the highest ranked, 2-loss, non con cg teams landed last year. Miami will be back in the top-5.
Beating a #5 on the road tops a #6/7 at home.

I'm not an over-reaction guy.
This opinion isn't based on how we lost on Friday, It's who we lost to on Friday.
We'd go nuts if your scenario was reversed.

With that being said, UVA can easily go 3-2 the rest of the way...a trip out to Cal, Dook, even VT can pull one out of their *** in that rivalry game.
No one's a lock in the ACCCG right now.
****, watch us get there some how.
 
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Canes305 said:
Dmoney referenced that the crowd at the beginning of the game was at best lackadaisical. This image was taken at 7:17. Where are the students? Look at the corners in the upper deck. It's no excuse for the players to come out flat however an engaged crowd does help does it not?

I think we will see a lighter crowd coming Saturday night due to a combination of it being Stanford and these kids/students and regular fans for that matter going to Halloween party's etc.

I get that we live in South Florida but 3 other Top 10 teams hosted games last week and they were filled to the brim including the image below of Indiana hosting Mich. State.

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The student section was empty, which is that corner of the stadium. But the rest of the stadium was pretty filled out for a Friday night game.

Miami is reliant on non-alumni to go to the game. Fighting two hours of traffic to go watch Miami play an unranked team is not going to bring in people. Students are not going to drive north to go watch the game. If you can't leave before 4:00 it is an absolute terror of a drive north. You're basically sitting in a parking lot for over 2 hours.

The location on the stadium relative to Miami the city is terrible for a Friday night game.
 
NJshoreCane said:
I have to disagree.
Head to head has to mean something, and they beat us at home.

ND is going to top out at 6 or 7, which is where the highest ranked, 2-loss, non con cg teams landed last year. Miami will be back in the top-5.
Beating a #5 on the road tops a #6/7 at home.

I'm not an over-reaction guy.
This opinion isn't based on how we lost on Friday, It's who we lost to on Friday.
We'd go nuts if your scenario was reversed.

With that being said, UVA can easily go 3-2 the rest of the way...a trip out to Cal, Dook, even VT can pull one out of their *** in that rivalry game.
No one's a lock in the ACCCG right now.
****, watch us get there some how.
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What you said is totally rational. I’m just telling you how it’d go. We have plenty of data on how they analyze things. It doesn’t matter if you and I think head to head matters. The committee doesn’t value it nearly as much as you’d think. And yes, of course we’d go nuts if the situation was reversed. I’m sure if this actually works out the way you’re describing, Louisville would go nuts. But going nuts won’t get them in the playoff over an 11-1 Miami. Miami would have the superior resume and they’d go and an 11-1 Louisville would be watching from home.
 
hurricaneman said:
The student section was empty, which is that corner of the stadium. But the rest of the stadium was pretty filled out for a Friday night game.

Miami is reliant on non-alumni to go to the game. Fighting two hours of traffic to go watch Miami play an unranked team is not going to bring in people. Students are not going to drive north to go watch the game. If you can't leave before 4:00 it is an absolute terror of a drive north. You're basically sitting in a parking lot for over 2 hours.

The location on the stadium relative to Miami the city is terrible for a Friday night game.
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Ya, no surprise the student attendance was what it was, but the crowd was as a whole good, just late arriving. The crowd and atmosphere aren’t anywhere in the vicinity of relevance for what happened on the field.
 
bobbydigius said:
Its been a concern and why people challenge this notion that he is a perfectionist. He talks the talk for sure, but his team's are always undisciplined. This has been a major talking point from the jump with Mario and how its not just his lack of Xs and Os acumen, its the general lack of preparedness his teams show on game day. Always playing down to the talent of the other team and mental mistakes upon mental mistakes which leads to losing games every year that they should have won handily.
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I really feel like this doesn’t get talked about enough.

Being A CEO coach and not being able to contribute schematically is fine, but you need to make up for it in other ways.
 
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