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Calinative said:
This very heavily depends on if you mean not win the ACC as in losing the ACCCG or not. Losing the ACCCG is a fail period. If we have 1 loss and because of the tiebreakers that keeps us out of the ACCCG, and then we go on to win a playoff game against a team seeded Better than us, that is a successful season, period. If we win the ACCCG, I'd assume we are getting the 4th/5th seed at worst (we likely don't win the ACCCG with more than our current loss btw). To then be a 1 loss team seeded 4th and then lose your first game would be bad. And I guarantee you a win over like UVA/GTech in the ACCCG isn't going to get all that much praise by anyone here if we lose our 1st playoff game a month later...
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He’s basically saying anything other then a National Championship appearance or ACC title win is a failure…
 
TaylorWalls said:
Dillingham, who is 5-2 and lost 42-10, is the model of accountability.

This is what we're dealing with on this board.
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With all due respect, let’s get it right:

Dillingham, who was the OC for Bo Nix at Oregon and then with a Freshman, Sam Leavitt, took Arizona State to the playoffs in year #2 of his tenure and lost in double overtime to Texas.

He lost with a backup QB by the name of Jeff Simms.
 
STG said:
I consider not winning the ACC in year ******* 4, when Clemson and FSU are dumpster fires a failure, period. Forget just making the game, why are we not winning it in year 4 when we have the highest paid roster and staff, and Mario has all of his guys?

Making the playoffs mean nothing to me unless we are playing for it all. I rather win the ACC and get bounced in our 1st game of the playoffs, than not win the ACC and let's say get bounced in R2 of the playoffs. Unless we are playing for it all, I don't care.
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Gotta be the worst take I’ve seen in a weekend of bad takes.

How exactly do you plan to play for it all if you lose on the first game of the playoffs?

All that matters is making the playoffs. If we make the playoffs, the season is a massive success.
 
CDWright40 said:
Mario has a history of getting teams ready for big games.

Mario has a history of having a bad game or two against inferior teams.

I think he needs help from the leaders within the program to make sure they get up for these games.
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How many times did Mario lose at Oregon vs Stanford? I think it was twice, including the year they went in and beat Ohio State.
 
hurricaneman said:
When Louisville's best RB fumbled he got benched in one of the most critical moments of the game. I have yet to see any sort of repercussions for a player that gets a personal foul call or stupid penalty. These kids need to sit. I don't care if it's Cici or Bain. You do something stupid you're sitting out that drive. And if it hurts the team because you're out that's on you.
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Jacolby George played an entire season after pretty much committing a personal foul every game.

You are spot on.
 
DMoney said:
I'm not demoralized, but I'm anxious.

All of us would've signed up for 5-1 and sweeping our rivals. This is modern college football. I didn't have Louisville as the loss - their OL looked miserable on tape - but maybe we should've seen it coming. Mario's Oregon teams routinely dropped these games, and this was his fifth loss as a double-digit favorite (tying him with Kalen DeBoer and Hugh Freeze). Either way, we enter the second half of the season as a Top 10 team.

The reason I'm anxious is the calendar. This is the stretch where we always collapse. Another loss would be devastating. We thought for a minute it might be easy, and now we're back to sniffing glue.

Our culture is about to get a stress test. Miami will be favorites in every game. The team is relatively healthy. If they stay on point and together, this will be a very successful season. But they need to deal with adversity for the first time in a while.

The first three drives set the tone for this game. We didn't do a good job of handling the bye/game/bye stretch, and it showed early. We couldn’t tackle, the team looked flat, and there was no juice in the building. On Louisville's first play, their RT and Jaleel Skinner execute a textbook double-team on Rueben Bain to pop Isaac Brown. Brohm calls a beautiful drive from there and Louisville scores a short TD.

We get the ball, Francis Mauigoa commits an 15-yard unsportsmanlike, and the drive is dead on arrival. We didn't run once because of down and distance. Three and out.

Louisville gets the ball at the Miami 46 after a good return. Brohm calls three papercuts for a first down, and then Chris Bell takes a crosser through the heart of our defense for six.

From that point, Louisville controlled the game. Brohm is the real deal and his team played hard. Miller Moss, who can be erratic, was decisive with a quick passing game that neutralized our pass rush (2.32 seconds before pass). I underrated Louisville's defense- they have good athletes who made some incredible plays to capitalize on our mistakes. They deserved to win.

There were lot of reasons for the loss, but two stand out as obvious. We can't win with four interceptions. It took me back to 2023 because there wasn't even pressure. Just teams playing pass and reading our QB. We spent a lot time this off-season discussing Cam's failure to checkdown to Arroyo against GT, but Carson Beck made a similar mistake with Alex Bauman on the first INT. Beck needs to take the easy money when it's there. That's his game.

Beck's response will be the story of the season. The media is waiting for him to fold and lose the locker room, as evidenced by Danny Kannell's tweet. We all have have TVD PTSD as Miami fans. I think Beck is a different player, with more winning experience and a tighter relationship with his team. But he'll need to prove it.

The other story is the nine penalties. We’re 130th in penalties per game after finishing 98th last year. It’s a consistent problem that causes us to play below our talent level.

A lot of the focus will be on the running game. I don’t expect a wholesale philosophy change after years of success, but I do think you’ll see more outside runs going forward. We’re only averaging 80 yards over the past two games. That’s unacceptable, even if teams are scheming to take away the run.

But I thought the biggest issue with the running game was the penalties. Our whole philosophy is based on controlling down and distance, and we were always behind the sticks because of unforced errors. We only had 18 total rushing attempts in a close low-scoring game. Louisville controlled the pace with their quick passing, and they ran better than they have all season. It felt like every time Heatherman went to a different pressure look, Brohm called an Isaac Brown run right into the soft spot of the front.

Miami's offensive line played their worst game of the season. While pass blocking was mostly fine, Matt McCoy got beat clean on a crucial fourth down and caused Beck’s third INT. With good protection, Beck finds Elija Lofton wide open in the flat.

Three players are still dragging on the offense. Lofton has regressed as a blocker and still looks lumbering in the passing game, while also making mental mistakes. Jordan Lyle is bouncing around and struggling to fit the run scheme. Jojo Trader only played one play.

There’s reason the staff is force-feeding Lyle/Lofton and pushing JoJo- they’ve seen their impact ability in practice. But for a variety of reasons, it’s not translating to production. The good news is it’s a long season. But it’s not forever, and we need to see signs of life soon.

Malachi Toney has been consistently performing like one of the best playmakers in America. His physicality is the revelation to me- he's stiff-arming and running over older players like nothing. Him and CJ Daniels are a playoff-caliber duo, but they need help.



The other star receiver on the field was Bell. I called him the best draft-eligible receiver earlier in the week, and that might’ve been selling him short. He’s playing like the next best receiver in America after Jeremiah Smith. Unreal horsepower.

From a playcalling standpoint, two things stuck out to my untrained eyes- we should have played with more urgency and tempo down in the 4th, and we got too screen-happy in the 3rd. Even in a bad game, we need to trust our veteran QB to make decisions with good pass protection.

Random personnel note- we played both Booker Pickett and Herbert Scroggins with Akheem Mesidor banged up. I wonder if we see them (and Marquise Lightfoot) more against Stanford.

I saved this one for last, because it’s not an excuse. But the atmosphere was terrible to start the game. Some of it was traffic and people getting off work. That’s not a fan issue. But the student section was half full and taking selfies. Let’s be better.

The good news is that we don’t have to wait through another bye. We will see how this team responds right away. Go Canes.
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Who cares about what Danny Kanell thinks?

Easy to control a game -3 in the turnover department. Disappointed with Beck as he did the opposite of what he’s done all season.

We’re fine. Tough to win at any level. Better to happen now than down the road.

Keep your heads up everyone.
 
PIPO said:
With all due respect, let’s get it right:

Dillingham, who was the OC for Bo Nix at Oregon and then with a Freshman, Sam Leavitt, took Arizona State to the playoffs in year #2 of his tenure and lost in double overtime to Texas.

He lost with a backup QB by the name of Jeff Simms.
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One loss to Louisville and we got guys shaking *** for the Mike Norvell coaching tree.
 
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Hufftwoseven said:
Friday night in the ACC



No excuses. Miami lost this game and Louisville had the better game plan. I blame Mario for the team coming out sluggish and for continuing to be the most penalized team in the nation. I really scratch my head at how undisciplined the team has been under him when he preaches discipline so much.



Offense



Kind of hard to put a huge blame on anyone but Carson Beck if we’re being honest. The INT’s were terrible. He had check downs on nearly every INT he threw. UL defense did a great job of moving him off his spot. Multiple times he stepped up in the pocket and A) took off too early or B) looked uncomfortable and unable to stand tall after stepping up. I blame Dawson for not being creative enough early. Once you see we can’t run it against a stacked box then he should have spread the formation out with 3/4 WR’s and tried to force UL to lighten the box. Also, no creativity until that drive after the UL turnover.



Defense



Everyone in America knew UL was going to get the ball out quick and throw it to Bell and you still couldn’t stop it. Terrible first two drives on the defense. But, to their credit, only allowed 10 more pts after that and even allowed 0 off of the Beck turnovers which is a miracle. My biggest gripe is not causing turnovers. OJ got his hands on the ball 3 times and didn’t come up with it. Felt like Moss made enough turnover worthy throws that we didn’t capitalize on, meanwhile UL came away with every ball that thrown near them on defense. Listening to the CFB PFF show they said UL had something like 150+ passing yards on yac alone. Thats being out played both scheme and execution.



I would say Louisville was the most talented team left on our schedule. And Miami still had a chance to win it in the end, if it weren’t for bad running scheme and Beck having money on the game (sarcasm). CFB is so much more even now. Mario is going to be able to out talent 9-10 games a year but there is good coaching across college football so if you are not on your A game you’re going to lose. Moving forward this team and Mario must prove to themselves that they belong in Charlott. Must win out, 11-1 and they probably need to boat race some teams if pt differential is a part of some tie breaker.
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I am going to say it now and we are lucky Angeli for Syracuse got hurt.

Syracuse with a less talented backup QB is going to do the same thing as Louisville because they are the originators of the quick pass script va us from last year.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
If we want to utilize Lyle we need to run him off tackle and get him into space.
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See this is also the issue. You can't just ALWAYS use him outside and Fletcher inside....
It's not that we can't every run duo. But first we should widen our ******* gaps first. Second we should maybe not run condensed formations so much. third you run outside and off tackle like 5x more than we have been (which is like none at all).
 
Calinative said:
This very heavily depends on if you mean not win the ACC as in losing the ACCCG or not. Losing the ACCCG is a fail period. If we have 1 loss and because of the tiebreakers that keeps us out of the ACCCG, and then we go on to win a playoff game against a team seeded Better than us, that is a successful season, period. If we win the ACCCG, I'd assume we are getting the 4th/5th seed at worst (we likely don't win the ACCCG with more than our current loss btw). To then be a 1 loss team seeded 4th and then lose your first game would be bad. And I guarantee you a win over like UVA/GTech in the ACCCG isn't going to get all that much praise by anyone here if we lose our 1st playoff game a month later...
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hypothetical 11-1 Miami wouldn't open vs a team ranked better them and would probably have a bye
 
StoneWallLoungeCane said:
A lot of cope in here about penalties and Beck. The biggest problem is that we have zero running game because Wario wants to prove how “tough” his team is, so he’s constantly asking them to run that stupid dive play when it clearly doesn’t work. He did this against ND in the second half and almost blew the game, did it against FSU and almost blew the game (has the lowest point differential in a W against FSU this year), and then did it against Louisville. This is who he is. Fake tough guy nonsense. It would take a personality transplant for Miami to be good. Miami’s losing 2-3 more games at a minimum.
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This this this. And it’s my biggest concern short term (I think we lose 1 more, maybe 2 as well) and long term
 
College Football is changing with NIL and the 12 team playoff. Will maybe only see 1-2 undefeated teams per year. I think we are still in a good position and will dawg walk Standard this week.

Production of our 3rd WR has to increase, Marion has been a non factor. I think Jojo and Moore have to get more opportunities this 2nd half of the season. With all the attention on Toney and Daniels should be getting moving forward it should just have to beat one on one coverage.
 
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Calinative said:
If you aren't a top 4 seed, you'd need to win 3 games to make the National Championship.
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Well you need to make the playoffs in the first place to even have a chance at the National Championship, saying an ACC chip is more important then making the playoff is wild to me but to each his own 🤷🏾‍♂️ .. if we missed the ACC title game entirely but make the playoffs at 11-1 I’d wouldn’t give two *****..I want a chance at the Natty
 
@DMoney bruh your write ups are the only thing that brings me peace during a time like this. I am back on the lets win the rest of the games train already, pause
 
Shooter McGavin said:
Yep same deal with Va Tech last year and Miami was what 4-0 at the time? Late arriving crowd after work Friday. Some idiot called out the fans in another thread and got lit up for it. Embarrassing look for @DMoney
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I was at that VT game last year with a few people from this site inside the club Liv section and Kyrone Drones going off.

We were so lucky to get the call on the Hail Mary. Another terrible Friday night game.

We won another close one a few years ago when Manny was coach vs Virginia on a rainy crazy night that took 3 hours to get to the stadium.

The need to disappear to oblivion.
 
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