Some Info for you guys:

[Consigliere]

Says to me that he's not going to make any changes. He doesn't care anymore. He probably wants his buyout. And lets face it, if anyone here had a 4-5 million dollar payday coming for being fired, they wouldn't be walking away from that either.

He will be here next year, and sadly, it seems that Donofrio will too. I think at this point he wants to get fired and get his buyout. This is the worst of all worlds situation.

I also don't get this "hamster wheel of firing a coach every 4-5 years". That's how its DONE. 2-3 years, yes I agree with that. You cant be ****canning coaches after 2-3 years over and over again, especially paying what UM does, because it will become a highly undesirable job, which it already is questionable. But 4 years is a fair amount of time to expect results. In 4 years, he is back to square one. Lots of talent, lots of hype, and no results. He's had a fair shot, and failed. Nothing wrong with firing a coach that got 4 years to show some palpable improvement, and fell flat on his face.

This. 4-5 years is the standard for schools where winning in football is paramount. Unfortunately it is clear we just don't care about that anymore.

5 yrs is a pretty standard minimum for someone who hasn't had a losing season and hasn't had any major controversies.

Not saying I like it, and definitely not defending Golden, but it needs to be pointed out that there aren't a lot of coaches who have been fired before year 5 without a losing season or some major controversy.

5 years is not standard for any program that gives a chit.

Let me know all of these coaches at good programs.

Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy. Bring it.

Lane Kiffin

Side note you're the one that brought up the bull chit stat. Not me. No one gets 5 years at a good program.

 

[AUcane]

Brady Hoke

 

[Consigliere]

5 yrs is a pretty standard minimum for someone who hasn't had a losing season and hasn't had any major controversies.

Not saying I like it, and definitely not defending Golden, but it needs to be pointed out that there aren't a lot of coaches who have been fired before year 5 without a losing season or some major controversy.

5 years is not standard for any program that gives a chit.

Let me know all of these coaches at good programs.

Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy. Bring it.

Lane kiffin

Cool...others?

****,

You brought up the bull chit about 5 years being standard. It's not the other way around, tell us about all these coaches. We will wait.

Please go.

 

[WhatTheHell]

LOL at acting all hard "name me ONE coach. Bring it, pal" then when two names get brought up, "uh, ok name me THREE coaches"

Shut your Golden lovin *** up

 

[Consigliere]

LOL at acting all hard "name me ONE coach. Bring it, pal" then when two names get brought up, "uh, ok name me THREE coaches"

Shut your Golden lovin *** up

You don't have to name chit. He brought up the IRRELEVANT bull chit. He should bring some facts to the table. We will wait.

 

[4Canes]

If Kelly is unhappy I would imagine that he'll be taking the next available gig out of town.
Doesn't really surprise me if true either, Miami is a weird animal and I know a few people that have moved to the area and cannot wait to leave.

IMO Miami personifies the "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there" adage.

frankly i don't care whether they are happy or not at this point but your post is nonsense. better they should live in Jonesboro Arkansas or some Podunk town in the middle of nowhere.

What about Miami not appealing to everyone is "nonsense"?
****, years ago one of the reasons cited for Saban leaving the Phins was his wife "hated" Miami.

 

[Drick7]

2 years ago Kelly loved Miami. She was one of the reasons touted by people as to why Golden wasn't gonna leave then. She would still love it here today if her husband wasn't ****ty at his job. Her not liking Miami anymore has nothing to do with people of Miami.

Who knows. Al's donut filled body, lots of black iced coffee, a broken A/C and a clogged toilet by him...you do the math. At least if he's in the Big 10 it's cold enough to kill the stench.

 

[miamimike]

This. 4-5 years is the standard for schools where winning in football is paramount. Unfortunately it is clear we just don't care about that anymore.

5 yrs is a pretty standard minimum for someone who hasn't had a losing season and hasn't had any major controversies.

Not saying I like it, and definitely not defending Golden, but it needs to be pointed out that there aren't a lot of coaches who have been fired before year 5 without a losing season or some major controversy.

5 years is not standard for any program that gives a chit.

Let me know all of these coaches at good programs.

Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy. Bring it.

Lane kiffin

bo pelini, randy shannon, mike leach. leach and pelini had more than five years but no losing seasons shannons first season was 5-7

 

[CanesAreAble]

Brady Hoke

Hoke had a losing season this year, but his fate was sealed way before that.

The "no losing seasons" thing is a narrow criteria. For example, is Golden's 6-6 in year one significantly better than Shannon's 5-7 in year one?

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

5 years is not standard for any program that gives a chit.

Let me know all of these coaches at good programs.

Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy. Bring it.

Lane kiffin

Cool...others?

****,

You brought up the bull chit about 5 years being standard. It's not the other way around, tell us about all these coaches. We will wait.

Please go.

?? Tell you about coaches who got 5 years? There's too many to name.

Point is that there are very few coaches who were fired before 5 years without a losing season or some controversy.

Kifffin was constantly embroiled in little controversies while at USC. He butted heads continually with Pat Haden, who hated him.

Mushcamp? Had a losing season and butted heads with admin.

Pretty much any other coach I can think of that was fired before a fifth year (Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, Bob Davie, Schnellenberger while he was at OU, go down the list....) all had either sat least one losing season or some sort of controversy.

 

[itsacanething]

If Kelly is unhappy I would imagine that he'll be taking the next available gig out of town.
Doesn't really surprise me if true either, Miami is a weird animal and I know a few people that have moved to the area and cannot wait to leave.

IMO Miami personifies the "nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there" adage.

frankly i don't care whether they are happy or not at this point but your post is nonsense. better they should live in Jonesboro Arkansas or some Podunk town in the middle of nowhere.

What about Miami not appealing to everyone is "nonsense"?
****, years ago one of the reasons cited for Saban leaving the Phins was his wife "hated" Miami.

the part about Miami personifying the nice place to visit but wouldn't want to live there. that's nonsense especially if you're husband earns a few million a year and you live in coral gables which happens to be a beautiful place to live.

 

[Gatorhater]

Thanks for the information. So basically the AD and BOT says that we are all right and have been for a couple years. WOW, that makes everything ok. We were all afraid we were wrong. What a relief. So everyone now buy your season tickets and go sit quietly the next five years while Al's contract expires, because nobody is going to even interview this bum.

Nothing particularly wrong with Al's offense and defense ideas. There was a team in Miami just like that: the old Dolphins. No Hurricane team was ever like that. Could be because we never had five HOF offensive linemen at one time, the Zonk, Kiick and Merc, with Bob frigging Greiese backed up by Earl Morral, and Paul Warfield(okay, we have had a few almost as good). Plus a future MD and lawyer playing defense, with two safeties every bit as good as the best we ever had. Oh did I mention probably the greatest coaching staff in history: Don Shula, Howard, yes that Howard, as OC, Bill Arnspager, the inventor of the 3 -4 defense, as DC.

I love my Canes and we have been witness to several of the greatest college football teams ever, but the '73 Fins were the great football team and coaching staff ever. The worst player on the No name defense, Tim Foley, made All Pro after moving to safety a couple years later. The OC later started the greatest college dynasty ever. No one person on this staff could have been a water boy on that team or staff. ****, Jim Mandich, may he rest in peace, was SECOND string TE.

Golden is right. Those things will work -- Saban is not much difference. Problem is Al is not Shula or even Saban, and Mark is not Kirby and sure as **** is not Bill. Dude is insanely proud.

 

[KevinCosio]

Thanks Jersey!! He posted more I Forgot to post

 

[FSisco7]

If he survives this week I'm expecting the kill shot in a couple weeks during the bowlz game

 

[JHallCanes]

The Penn State fiasco is the only thing I have left to hold on to. It's Goldens only critical mistake. If not for that there's no doubts he would be here for at least one more season.

But when you bruise big money egos, those things don't just go away. I'm still just holding out hope that the right people got embarrassed enough to keep this rally alive.

 

[Consigliere]

?? Tell you about coaches who got 5 years? There's too many to name.

Point is that there are very few coaches who were fired before 5 years without a losing season or some controversy.

Kifffin was constantly embroiled in little controversies while at USC. He butted heads continually with Pat Haden, who hated him.

Mushcamp? Had a losing season and butted heads with admin.

Pretty much any other coach I can think of that was fired before a fifth year (Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, Bob Davie, Schnellenberger while he was at OU, go down the list....) all had either sat least one losing season or some sort of controversy.

Original quote: Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy.

Lane Kiffin. He was fired because he sucked and USC has/had real SANCTIONS (REAL UNLIKE OURS).

Will Muschamp actually had success (11 wins and Sugar Bowl), but he was fired.

Al Golden has had NO success. He doesn't deserve a fifth year. Coaches at real programs get fired and are not given 5 years especially when in year 4 you have the same record as year 1. How about the Penn State Controversy?

 

[Pharmdcane]

The Penn State fiasco is the only thing I have left to hold on to. It's Goldens only critical mistake. If not for that there's no doubts he would be here for at least one more season.

But when you bruise big money egos, those things don't just go away. I'm still just holding out hope that the right people got embarrassed enough to keep this rally alive.

Ditto

 

[canes1977]

It feels like Golden is hoping to get fired. That's the only explanation for him not having made any coaching changes. I have a feeling the board is going to demand it and he's going to tell them to f*ck off at which point the BOT will have to make a decision. I am still hoping they come to some type of resolution where Golden steps down and takes a discount on his buyout. He has to be looking at who he is losing this year and realizing next year could be an absolute disaster. He wins 5-6 games next year and his name will forever be tarnished. The best news in that report is that his wife hates it here. Hopefully, that's motivation enough for him to come to agreement with the school and step down with a healthy (yet reduced) buyout.

 

[wherrera8]

If they don't want the continuous hamster wheel then get it right and make a good hire. It's all on them. They went cheap. They got what they paid for.

 

[Jassid82]

A few things..

1) The inside info is always appreciated whether its true or not. I do believe that his wife aint happy. Her husband prob cant go to the store without a bodyguard and all you hear on talk radio is how much people want him out of here on the first thing smokin, and how much of a bum he is. No woman would want her husband to go through this. And im sure she knew how close there were to getting the heck out of here and going back to PSU. That probably burns her too.

2) I do believe it is more complicated then what we are making it out to be BUT since they fired Randys a$$ within one hour of the conclusion of the USFgame I am not understanding what the ***** the problem is here...Maybe they realized last time that cutting the chord on Randy without even ironing out the details wasn't a good idea or something so they are trying to be more calculated this time. BOO HOO!! The program is on life support right now and they don't make a move...this thing will be dead next year.

3) Gotta love Hurricane Basketball right now and you are a bytch if you refuse to support them just because you hate the football team trying to make some dumb statement that you will not support anything associated with the O&G. Those boys are ballin' and it makes me feel good knowing that SOMEBODY knows how to coach around Coral Gables. It aint rocket science Al! You can learn a thing or two from Jim.

4) No place in the USA like Miami/South Florida other then San Diego. If you don't like it down here then there is something wrong with YOU.