SIAP: UF Graduation Video 2018: Black Students Yanked Off Stage

[LPK2006]

I was pretty shocked to see this video. Hey, I get it that you've got a bunch of students to go through, so you want to keep it moving.

That said, that dude had no right to lay a finger on any of those people, much less outright manhandle them the way he did.

For what it's worth, I was actually in Gainesville this past weekend for a graduation at UF....not *that* graduation, though. At the one I saw, some of the kids showboated a little without being roughed up by some racist......but you can still tell that there is some definite blatant racism going on up there. At the graduation I attended, there was a very significant contingent of Asian grads, mostly Indian and Chinese from what I could tell. There were literally dozens of these Asian graduates called across the stage first, before you heard a single "white"-sounding name. When they got to that first "white" name, the crowd erupted in a loud cheer. I found that really obnoxious and offensive. I guess that's Gainesville for you.

 

[theibisrules]

That’s not the point. First, my understanding is he was being selective towards only a certain group.

Secondly....

Never put your hands on another man unless you’re ready to have him put his hands back on you.

Nailed it

 

[Dhatguy]

People are really in here denying history? The party switch of the early 1900s is now a “narrative” and “rewritten history”? Wtf
Time to close this thread just like the Gambino one. Folks are literally trying to make this political, It’s not even on topic anymore.

 

[theibisrules]

I was pretty shocked to see this video. Hey, I get it that you've got a bunch of students to go through, so you want to keep it moving.

That said, that dude had no right to lay a finger on any of those people, much less outright manhandle them the way he did.

For what it's worth, I was actually in Gainesville this past weekend for a graduation at UF....not *that* graduation, though. At the one I saw, some of the kids showboated a little without being roughed up by some racist......but you can still tell that there is some definite blatant racism going on up there. At the graduation I attended, there was a very significant contingent of Asian grads, mostly Indian and Chinese from what I could tell. There were literally dozens of these Asian graduates called across the stage first, before you heard a single "white"-sounding name. When they got to that first "white" name, the crowd erupted in a loud cheer. I found that really obnoxious and offensive. I guess that's Gainesville for you.

The video stated that others were more disruptive than the black students, yet they were allowed to express themselves.

 

[jhtheking]

"The classic narrative of the horribly educated right" smells like the narrative of indoctrination.

The notion that the parties switched sides is a convenient rewriting of history.

It's not that you don't know much it's that you know so much that isn't so.

But this is not the most amusing comment on this issue. The prize for that goes to the statement "Either way, white, black, or Asian, no man has a right to manhandle another person. Ever." This said on a FOOTBALL forum!

I'm guessing you failed American history. Look it up. It's you that's rewriting history. Actually ******* look it up dude.

Why is it that the only people that think the parties didn't switch are dumb as bricks and refuse to look up the truth? Because they're horribly educated. This isn't some conspiracy theory. Your blatant philistine attitude towards the unfolding of American history is a ******* disgrace.

 

[2FNFST4U]

This thread is comical as is the sensationalized way race in the news

 

[PanteraCanes]

How many kids really walked across that stage? At Miami, Tad Foote held his hand up in my direction while in my seat and said "by the power of Greyskull, you get a degree" or something like that. The only people walking across the stage were honor students. If UF marches each undergrad across the stage that is absolutely insanity!!

From my understanding and seeing someone's graduation years ago up there, they all go across the stage. Not all 10k are in this ceremony. From some reports they break them up by colleges in some way which results in 8 different ceremonies. That is still over 1k kids you need to get through. There is nothing comfortable for anybody about sitting there for 4-6 hours for a graduation and if anything makes you take a second longer than you have to then you are not going to be happy about it.

So if consideration for say 4k other people who have no interest in you isn't enough to want to move it along and give everyone respect there are other things. There is someone reading off names and if a person stops in the middle then the names keep getting read but you don't get it synced up with who is there walking. So the people behind them get their experience ruined. Others have said that the jumbo tron is broadcasting a certain spot and has a names rolling across it for when they should be walking there. Which seems about right as some appear to be stopping in that spot so the entire stadium can watch their dance routine. So all the people behind them have now had their moment ruined because their walk was not synced up on that for their family and/or friends to see.

The accounts that I have read were that the first person to do something was a white female who stopped to do a selfie and she was ushered off as well.

From what I can tell people who wanted to walk funny across the stage but kept moving were not ushered. It was the people who appears to hold things up that were ushered.

 

[Genghis Cane]

As a history teacher, I feel the need to project my voice into this conversation because I see some posts that are incredibly clueless.
First off, there wasn't some giant switch between both parties; instead, for a variety of reasons, it was gradual.

Up until the FDR era, blacks traditionally voted Republican; however, this began to change when he ran for President in 1932. He ended up garnering over 70% of the black vote because many of them were attracted to his New Deal policies — race had absolutely nothing to do with it, at least initially.

The number of blacks voting democrat continued to burgeon throughout the FDR and Truman administrations, but there was still a strong contingent of blacks voting republican up until the Kennedy-Nixon election. Kennedy's actions were responsible for the next gradual swing when he got MLK out of jail and had his famous telephone conversation with Coretta. That election was so close, and many historical scholars credit JFK's choice to push for MLK's release from prison as what swung the election. Nixon almost did the same thing, and Jackie Robinson, a staunch Republican at the time, begged him to do so. In sum, JFK beat him to it, and blacks saw him as the candidate that would look out for their interests. And since JFK was a Democrat, they began to associate the entire party with him, causing many blacks to abandon the GOP permanently.

Finally, the nomination of Goldwater and Johnson's passage of the Civil Right's Act led to the last swing of black voters. But by that time, the majority of black were already voting democrat for non-racial reasons. Did Goldwater's hardline stance on the Civil Right's Act impact the number of blacks voting Democrat? Of course, but let's not pretend that was the most important — or even the only — reason behind why blacks switched parties. Most of it had nothing to do with race. On the contrary, economic policies and a well-timed public relations deserve far more credit.

Here are some sources if you don't believe me:

Blacks and the Democratic Party - FactCheck.org
How Kennedy Won the Black Vote : A Call to Coretta King Brought Groundswell of Support
JFK, MLK and the Phone Call That Changed History

 

[kkinder94]

Believe it or not we had this issue at Gibbons, where students would "impede the graduation process." Obvioulsly Gibbons is a private school anf UF public and 40 times the size; but one of the rules of graduation was that you could not bring attention to yourself. However, kids students would still celebrate their moment, and it was well known that they had another few days of school. Gibbons would not have the diploma in the folder handed to them while walking cross the stage. They would have to spend a few extra days in class to graduate.
This has been going on for ever, when the older generation always says that the youth have no respect, no idea how the world works, etc.
I've always looked at it as it's up to the older generation to communicate (efficiently) with the younger generation.
This probably could have been solved with an email saying that any excessive celebration would be met with community service before officially graduating. I know many students would gladly take a few hours of community service for a life time memory.
And for us older folks, let's remember that there is lots of things worse in this world than a kid dancing

When you have tons of people to get through, you can't have your "moment". If every one danced and pranced, the event, which is already extremely long, would be never ending. Celebrate and express yourself with your family after the event. Graduations are there so the families get to see their loved one walk across the stage. The real celebration should take place after the formal ceremony. Now, I don't think they should have been manhandled like that, but I guess that dude figured they wouldn't listen to a verbal command because they already received a verbal command not to do that in the first place.

 

[OptimusCreampie]

I was pretty shocked to see this video. Hey, I get it that you've got a bunch of students to go through, so you want to keep it moving.

That said, that dude had no right to lay a finger on any of those people, much less outright manhandle them the way he did.

For what it's worth, I was actually in Gainesville this past weekend for a graduation at UF....not *that* graduation, though. At the one I saw, some of the kids showboated a little without being roughed up by some racist......but you can still tell that there is some definite blatant racism going on up there. At the graduation I attended, there was a very significant contingent of Asian grads, mostly Indian and Chinese from what I could tell. There were literally dozens of these Asian graduates called across the stage first, before you heard a single "white"-sounding name. When they got to that first "white" name, the crowd erupted in a loud cheer. I found that really obnoxious and offensive. I guess that's Gainesville for you.

Watch the whole video that's not edited before you bring race into it home boy the guy was doing it to every student that took their time up there

 

[OptimusCreampie]

We should probably close this thread lol

 

[CaneOil]

Then you need to read from another source. Whites and Asians were treated the same according to people who were there. This is part of an agenda, nothing more. If blacks were targeted then let the punishment fit the offense.

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Before I read this I would have wanted him fired. The liberal media is a cancer to society.

 

[futurecane]

So the parties switched in the 1930’s...

Yet in 1964, Republicans overwhelmingly voted in support of the Civil Rights Act (80%), whilst Democrats could barely squeak out 65%.

GTFO with the racist bull. Democrats have been selling us a load of crap for decades.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia

 

[Chuckles]

People are really in here denying history? The party switch of the early 1900s is now a “narrative” and “rewritten history”? Wtf
Time to close this thread just like the Gambino one. Folks are literally trying to make this political, It’s not even on topic anymore.

Sorry pal, it's you who does not know history. Polly want a cracker?

 

[CaneOil]

You are correct. The rest of the facts will come out. If that guy targeted one race then he should get punished accordingly.

While I do agree with you 100% if he targeted those kids fire him. On the other hand if it comes out that other kids were taken off stage in the same way, you have to be able to agree the liberal media is a cancer to our society. I still don't agree with touching the kids, they seemed to still be moving on.

 

[CaneOil]

So the parties switched in the 1930’s...

Yet in 1964, Republicans overwhelmingly voted in support of the Civil Rights Act (80%), whilst Democrats could barely squeak out 65%.

GTFO with the racist bull. Democrats have been selling us a load of crap for decades.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia

Yup some just don't care about the truth. Liberalism is a cancer to society, just look at most of Europe for your guide.

 

[Chuckles]

Great post. Here’s a video for non-readers.

How the republican party went from Lincoln to Trump



From white supremacy to Barack Obama: The history of the Democratic Party


One of the moderators, @Notsince1985 (or something like that), is an expert on American, Caribbean and African American history.

Excellent slick political propaganda. To begin with the image of Trump frowning as contrasted to BO smiling. The hit on Republicans begins with stating that the party is mostly white. No mention that the Democrat party is also mostly white, not surprising when one considers the racial makeup of the country! But don't let me bore you with census demographics counts. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

 

[CaneOil]

Yup some just don't care about the truth. Liberalism is a cancer to society, just look at most of Europe for your guide.

Hey Tetra One example of liberalism. Over 40% of Young woman are having kids with no father around. That mother and kids are doomed from the start or a very very high percentage of them are. If I had lived with my mother instead of my military father when I was 5 I would have been dead or in prison. Most of the time it's on to welfare and all the rest that comes with it, liberalism brought this on.

 

[gruntking]

Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said.
"Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party," Barton writes in his book. "In fact, a 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.
"The Klan terrorized black Americans through murders and public floggings; relief was granted only if individuals promised not to vote for Republican tickets, and violation of this oath was punishable by death," he said. "Since the Klan targeted Republicans in general, it did not limit its violence simply to black Republicans; white Republicans were also included."
Barton also has covered the subject in one episode of his American Heritage Series of television programs, which is being broadcast now on Trinity Broadcasting Network and Cornerstone Television.
Barton told WND his comments are not a condemnation or endorsement of any party or candidate, but rather a warning that voters even today should be aware of what their parties and candidates stand for.
His book outlines the aggressive pro-slavery agenda held by the Democratic Party for generations leading up to the Civil War, and how that did not die with the Union victory in that war of rebellion.
Even as the South was being rebuilt, the votes in Congress consistently revealed a continuing pro-slavery philosophy on the part of the Democrats, the book reveals.
Three years after Appomattox, the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, granting blacks citizenship in the United States, came before Congress: 94 percent of Republicans endorsed it.
"The records of Congress reveal that not one Democrat � either in the House or the Senate � voted for the 14th Amendment," Barton wrote. "Three years after the Civil War, and the Democrats from the North as well as the South were still refusing to recognize any rights of citizenship for black Americans."
He also noted that South Carolina Gov. Wade Hampton at the 1868 Democratic National Convention inserted a clause in the party platform declaring the Congress' civil rights laws were "unconstitutional, revolutionary, and void."
It was the same convention when Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, the first grand wizard of the KKK, was honored for his leadership.
Barton's book notes that in 1868, Congress heard testimony from election worker Robert Flournoy, who confessed while he was canvassing the state of Mississippi in support of the 13th and 14th Amendments, he could find only one black, in a population of 444,000 in the state, who admitted being a Democra

This is good historical information... in my home office my bookshelf is comprised of 95% historical books, and I do believe you are accurate. Furthermore... as a conservative, I detest being automatically put into a group and be labeled just to satisfy todays deranged political narratives.

Go Canes.

 

[CaneOil]

Great post. Here’s a video for non-readers.

How the republican party went from Lincoln to Trump



From white supremacy to Barack Obama: The history of the Democratic Party


One of the moderators, @Notsince1985 (or something like that), is an expert on American, Caribbean and African American history.

Pretty good video's and 1985 is right on. One thing I didn't like was the author calling them immigrants coming over the border, they are illegal immigrants, we have laws on this now, whether some like it or not. I'm not for big government, everything they touch gets screwed up. Illegal immigration costs us upwards of 135 billion per year. Go to CA and look at the homeless Americans of all races. Now these illegals are taking their low income housing. Trump is fixing some things and others he's trying too, like the massive trade deficits that will destroy us sooner or later.

The presidents before him let NK get out of control, he has to clean up their mess. Same with Iran now, fix it or we'll be going through the same thing we are going through now with North Korea. I also think about a third of the republican party are more liberal than conservative, easy to see.

The only black and white crap I see is on tv. Whether I'm a the gym or in a Casino watching a game I just don't see the divide in the real world. While I do know there is still racism out there it's on all sides. I talk to everyone, color never comes into play. Another thing I don't like is a police state, IMO they all need to be retrained and many fired. Talked about that with one of my black friends the other day, this is still a problem that needs to be dealt with. As much as Trump loves cops, me not so much.

Liberalism will be our downfall IMO, not race. It's the younger generations who are really going to take a beating from my generation robbing them blind.