SIAP - Kentucky Coach Mark Stoops Asked About Miami Coaching Job

[htownkidd]

This guy pokes his head out of the SEC East every 5 years and beats a couple over rated teams and gets hot.

He’s a .500 coach.

Florida is just about to fire a coach with a much better record at MSU in a much better division.

This is the overcompensation we’d make after so many atrocious coaches. We go with the sure average coach. This guys not getting us beating the Big boys.

According to who? They are about to fire him because some Uf fans want him fired? Or you talked to the AD? Elaborate.

 

[KingCane20]

Idc who the head coach is as long as he demands the administration to commit. That includes a infrastructure overhaul..

 

[Heart of The Playmaker]

I think stoops would be great here we need discipline! I think Kiffin would be great here also just worry about the longevity if he did! And I'm good with Mario also with that said out of those 3 I'd go 1. Kiffin 2.Mario or Stoops! I feel **** James Harrison CANT WAIT!

I agree..1. Lane Train 2. Freeze (impossible dream) 3. Stoops 4. Mario.

I'm pretty sure you confused James Harrison with Bart Scott...

 

[hoops156]

Partially recruiting, partially coaching. I think the recruiting rankings for the state of florida are all overblown. The current status of all of the in state programs supports that.

Too many whiffs on evaluations on top it, primarily in the trenches.

Coaching does us no favors.

Navarro says that in his recent pod.

 

[Memnon]

Have any of yall watched Kentucky this year or over the last 3 seasons?

What gives yall such confidence that our OL is capable of running their style of offense? Have yall forgot that fast about the Enox season??

And more importantly, if you’re of the belief that he would hire a Spread OC, why would he stray from what has worked for him at Kentucky & do something he’s never done while at Miami? Like if you’re Mark Stoops & this style offense has won you 10 games in 2018 & has you on the verge of another 10 win season this year, why would you ditch it at a new program?

I’m not tryna throw a monkey wrench in the parade float, I’m looking for some legit logic behind so many of our fans being so hellbent on us reverting back to the days when we struggled immensely in moving the ball?

Maybe you guys don’t think it will matter, but you have to take into scope the state of the game today & calculate how we’ll play considering our personnel & how that translates to what happens in games... Like just think, does Miami beat NC State by pounding the rock like Kentucky did against South Carolina, UF, LSU & Mizzou?

Kentucky has only 3 games with more than 30 passing attempts, those games were vs Chattanooga & Louisiana Monroe; they’ve thrown the ball more than 20 times against only one of the P5 opponents they’ve played this year & that was vs UGA in a loss.

So what does that mean? They’re winning games with Defense & running the ball, do you guys think Miami has the roster to win games with Defense & running the ball in a similar fashion? And how long do you think it will take for him to build this roster up to that point?

 

[JayCane20]

Navarro says that in his recent pod.

Seems like a given. We can see the scheme is bad. We can also see the kids aren’t as talented as their rating suggests relative to kids from the state of Georgia especially. Probably why UGA is clicking right now

 

[htownkidd]

Have any of yall watched Kentucky this year or over the last 3 seasons?

What gives yall such confidence that our OL is capable of running their style of offense? Have yall forgot that fast about the Enox season??

And more importantly, if you’re of the belief that he would hire a Spread OC, why would he stray from what has worked for him at Kentucky & do something he’s never done while at Miami? Like if you’re Mark Stoops & this style offense has won you 10 games in 2018 & has you on the verge of another 10 win season this year, why would you ditch it at a new program?

I’m not tryna throw a monkey wrench in the parade float, I’m looking for some legit logic behind so many of our fans being so hellbent on us reverting back to the days when we struggled immensely in moving the ball?

Maybe you guys don’t think it will matter, but you have to take into scope the state of the game today & calculate how we’ll play considering our personnel & how that translates to what happens in games... Like just think, does Miami beat NC State by pounding the rock like Kentucky did against South Carolina, UF, LSU & Mizzou?

Kentucky has only two games with more than 30 passing attempts, those games were vs Chattanooga & Louisiana Monroe; they haven’t thrown the ball more than 20 times against any of the P5 opponents they’ve played this year.

So what does that mean? They’re winning games with Defense & running the ball, do you guys think Miami has the roster to win games with Defense & running the ball in a similar fashion? And how long do you think it will take for him to build this roster up to that point?

Legit questions, and the answer is no lol. Could he build/get the personnel for that? Sure, I guess. Will we be patient enough for it to come to fruition? Probably not lol. So then what? Yeah, I’ll be honest I hadn’t really thought about that either...mainly cause I don’t see him as a legit option but yeah, that’s likely no bueno.

 

[Memnon]

Legit questions, and the answer is no lol. Could he build/get the personnel for that? Sure, I guess. Will we be patient enough for it to come to fruition? Probably not lol. So then what? Yeah, I’ll be honest I hadn’t really thought about that either...mainly cause I don’t see him as a legit option but yeah, that’s likely no bueno.

That’s all I’ve been trying to figure out lol

Cause like if we’re gonna play Mark Stoops ball in Miami that’s not gonna happen overnight, it’ll take at 2-3 years tops before our OL has even a modicum of closeness to Kentucky’s, so in the meantime in between time, what happens then? Are fans gonna be okay with us essentially remaining a 7-5 type team until Mark figures out the QB & transforms our OL?

I guess what I’ve been asking is, how patient are yall tryna be? Do yall wanna wait 3-4 years with a Run first HC or do we get us a Pass first offensive guru that can turn things around faster & win while in the process of transforming the roster to fit what’s he’s looking for?

It seems to me most of our fans are saying they’re okay with a slow build in theory, but from what I know about us if Miami is still trying to get over the hump by year 3 with these Power run coaches everyone wants they’ll be calling for their heads just like they do with every other coach lol.

 

[ristwasdown]

Have any of yall watched Kentucky this year or over the last 3 seasons?

What gives yall such confidence that our OL is capable of running their style of offense? Have yall forgot that fast about the Enox season??

And more importantly, if you’re of the belief that he would hire a Spread OC, why would he stray from what has worked for him at Kentucky & do something he’s never done while at Miami? Like if you’re Mark Stoops & this style offense has won you 10 games in 2018 & has you on the verge of another 10 win season this year, why would you ditch it at a new program?

I’m not tryna throw a monkey wrench in the parade float, I’m looking for some legit logic behind so many of our fans being so hellbent on us reverting back to the days when we struggled immensely in moving the ball?

Maybe you guys don’t think it will matter, but you have to take into scope the state of the game today & calculate how we’ll play considering our personnel & how that translates to what happens in games... Like just think, does Miami beat NC State by pounding the rock like Kentucky did against South Carolina, UF, LSU & Mizzou?

Kentucky has only 3 games with more than 30 passing attempts, those games were vs Chattanooga & Louisiana Monroe; they’ve thrown the ball more than 20 times against only one of the P5 opponents they’ve played this year & that was vs UGA in a loss.

So what does that mean? They’re winning games with Defense & running the ball, do you guys think Miami has the roster to win games with Defense & running the ball in a similar fashion? And how long do you think it will take for him to build this roster up to that point?

Well stoops fired Gran as OC for the sole purpose of being more balanced on offense. Gran built that offense around ground and pound and their new OC from the rams inherited and is playing towards the offenses strength.

Doesn't really sound like Stoops is too tied to one thing, but he does know he has to pass more to win. Otherwise, he wouldn't have fire Gran when they were on the up and up.

Not saying he's a good fit or he'd have some air raid. Just saying there's more nuance to it.

 

[Memnon]

Well stoops fired Gran as OC for the sole purpose of being more balanced on offense. Gran built that offense around ground and pound and their new OC from the rams inherited and is playing towards the offenses strength.

Doesn't really sound like Stoops is too tied to one thing, but he does know he has to pass more to win. Otherwise, he wouldn't have fire Gran when they were on the up and up.

Not saying he's a good fit or he'd have some air raid. Just saying there's more nuance to it.

Kentucky has basically been a run heavy offense for the last 5 years, which leads me to believe that’s the style the Mark prefers... He may have fired Gran, but they’re still not throwing the ball under Coen’s play calling.

But lets say he comes to Miami, is he gonna abandon that philosophy if it’s produced his best results for him?

Has Mark Stoops ever had an OC that placed an emphasis on throwing the ball?

If Miami had the personnel to support a pound the rock offense he’d be perfect, but from looking at our roster going forward doesn’t appear we have the horses for that kind of race.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Have any of yall watched Kentucky this year or over the last 3 seasons?

What gives yall such confidence that our OL is capable of running their style of offense? Have yall forgot that fast about the Enox season??

And more importantly, if you’re of the belief that he would hire a Spread OC, why would he stray from what has worked for him at Kentucky & do something he’s never done while at Miami? Like if you’re Mark Stoops & this style offense has won you 10 games in 2018 & has you on the verge of another 10 win season this year, why would you ditch it at a new program?

I’m not tryna throw a monkey wrench in the parade float, I’m looking for some legit logic behind so many of our fans being so hellbent on us reverting back to the days when we struggled immensely in moving the ball?

Maybe you guys don’t think it will matter, but you have to take into scope the state of the game today & calculate how we’ll play considering our personnel & how that translates to what happens in games... Like just think, does Miami beat NC State by pounding the rock like Kentucky did against South Carolina, UF, LSU & Mizzou?

Kentucky has only 3 games with more than 30 passing attempts, those games were vs Chattanooga & Louisiana Monroe; they’ve thrown the ball more than 20 times against only one of the P5 opponents they’ve played this year & that was vs UGA in a loss.

So what does that mean? They’re winning games with Defense & running the ball, do you guys think Miami has the roster to win games with Defense & running the ball in a similar fashion? And how long do you think it will take for him to build this roster up to that point?

This absolutely my fear with Stoops. I’m sure you’ve seen me mention that I want him but only if changes that offense, which is prob unlikely. We have the athletes to be pass first. I like Stoops but if he is the guy I hope hes open to a more spread pass friendly offense

 

[ristwasdown]

Kentucky has basically been a run heavy offense for the last 5 years, which leads me to believe that’s the style the Mark prefers... He may have fired Gran, but they’re still not throwing the ball under Coen’s play calling.

But lets say he comes to Miami, is he gonna abandon that philosophy if it’s produced his best results for him?

Has Mark Stoops ever had an OC that placed an emphasis on throwing the ball?

If Miami had the personnel to support a pound the rock offense he’d be perfect, but from looking at our roster going forward doesn’t appear we have the horses for that kind of race.

I don't disagree. But when you inherit an offense that can gash sec teams like LSU, do you even risk throwing 30 times a game? You'd hope your OC is smart enough to play to strengths of the offense. Something I wish Lashlee would do more often, haha.

I'd think any coach we hire would understand the strengths of South Florida athletes and cater to it. As much as I dislike Diaz, I think the gets that.

I dont know, Stoops is a good coach. I dont give a **** which offense we run as long as we can win some ACC championships and recruit some studs.

Stoops is on the high end of quality when I think of coaches who actually would come to Miami. Not my first choice, but it could be way worse.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

I think you've got that the wrong way round, bud.

There aren't many Mark Richts coaching College football.

Absolutely. But I never said we were looking for a saint. Read my post again:

"Doesn't mean we can't find a great coach, but we're not going to go to the small handful of low quality humans in that pool to find the next guy.'

We're not going to take a known creep and put him in charge of a bunch of college students. Nor would most schools. Which is why they are where they are. The optics would not fly.

 

[hoops156]

Seems like a given. We can see the scheme is bad. We can also see the kids aren’t as talented as their rating suggests relative to kids from the state of Georgia especially. Probably why UGA is clicking right now

Yup. he compared it beyond Miami tho. Every in state school is struggling even the ones in weaker divisions playing agaisn’t weaker comp

 

[hoops156]

Kentucky has basically been a run heavy offense for the last 5 years, which leads me to believe that’s the style the Mark prefers... He may have fired Gran, but they’re still not throwing the ball under Coen’s play calling.

But lets say he comes to Miami, is he gonna abandon that philosophy if it’s produced his best results for him?

Has Mark Stoops ever had an OC that placed an emphasis on throwing the ball?

If Miami had the personnel to support a pound the rock offense he’d be perfect, but from looking at our roster going forward doesn’t appear we have the horses for that kind of race.

Lane. I don’t want Mario near an elite qb either

 

[Memnon]

I don't disagree. But when you inherit an offense that can gash sec teams like LSU, do you even risk throwing 30 times a game? You'd hope your OC is smart enough to play to strengths of the offense. Something I wish Lashlee would do more often, haha.

I'd think any coach we hire would understand the strengths of South Florida athletes and cater to it. As much as I dislike Diaz, I think the gets that.

I dont know, Stoops is a good coach. I dont give a **** which offense we run as long as we can win some ACC championships and recruit some studs.

Stoops is on the high end of quality when I think of coaches who actually would come to Miami. Not my first choice, but it could be way worse.

Those are fair points.

I used to not care what kind of offense we run either until we started losing games because we couldn’t move the ball.

I think most fans have that mentality, but it’s one of those things that people will overlook until the season rolls around & we’re at TAMU next year trying to run the ball against 8 man fronts vs a legit DLine that’s stuffing the run game, just like what’s happened against every OOC P5 team we’ve faced over the last 5 years.

 

[hoops156]

That’s all I’ve been trying to figure out lol

Cause like if we’re gonna play Mark Stoops ball in Miami that’s not gonna happen overnight, it’ll take at 2-3 years tops before our OL has even a modicum of closeness to Kentucky’s, so in the meantime in between time, what happens then? Are fans gonna be okay with us essentially remaining a 7-5 type team until Mark figures out the QB & transforms our OL?

I guess what I’ve been asking is, how patient are yall tryna be? Do yall wanna wait 3-4 years with a Run first HC or do we get us a Pass first offensive guru that can turn things around faster & win while in the process of transforming the roster to fit what’s he’s looking for?

It seems to me most of our fans are saying they’re okay with a slow build in theory, but from what I know about us if Miami is still trying to get over the hump by year 3 with these Power run coaches everyone wants they’ll be calling for their heads just like they do with every other coach lol.

Zero shot Miami fans will be patient esp when you pay 6 plus mill for a coach. We will fire the guy by year 3

 

[Pimpdaddycane]

Stoops has been very flexible with offensive schemes during his tenure at UK. The one constant has been strong, nasty, disciplined O-line play. This is his first year with an ept QB. The OL has truly become stronger and more cohesive each year he has been here. If he brought that to Miami, the scheme and skill would fill in around the OL, because Stoops is not inflexible and he is capable of identifying young offensive coaching talent and giving them room to work (while gettin' in them on a daily basis to keep moving).

My assessments are always skewed toward a focus on OL play. Maybe that’s why I think Stoops’ success here would rise or fall on him generating strong OL play. I sense Stoops knows what it takes to accomplish this.

And he’s going to need Erickson’s driver while in CG and Miami. He’s an animal on the bourbon. The BBN blue-bloods aren’t taking Stoops’ potential interest in Miami lightly. They were not worried last time (maybe they were aware Blake and Manure were like peas and carrots).

Let’s face it, the ACC Coastal is a slow half-mile jog for a good coach at Miami. We’ve just not had one.

As a KY boy, I’m rooting for the hat-trick of Jurich, Stoops, and Pitino to UM. Top-shelf across the board, but CG can’t handle that type of balls. Shalala neutered the program.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Stoops has been very flexible with offensive schemes during his tenure at UK. The one constant has been strong, nasty, disciplined O-line play. This is his first year with an ept QB. The OL has truly become stronger and more cohesive each year he has been here. If he brought that to Miami, the scheme and skill would fill in around the OL, because Stoops is not inflexible and capable of identifying young offensive coaching talent.

My assessments are always skewed toward a focus on OL play. Maybe that’s why I think Stoops’ success here would rise or fall on him generating strong OL play. I sense Stoops knows what it takes to accomplish this.

And he’s going to need Erickson’s driver while in CG and Miami. He’s an animal on the bourbon. The BBN blue-bloods aren’t taking Stoops’ potential interest in Miami lightly. They were not worried last time (maybe they were aware Blake and Manure were like peas and carrots).

Let’s face it, the ACC Coastal is a slow half-mile jog for a good coach at Miami. We’ve just not had one.

As a KY boy, I’m rooting for the hat-trick of Jurich, Stoops, and Pitino to UM. Top-shelf across the board, but CG can’t handle that type of balls. Shalala neutered the program.

Jurich, Kiffin, Pitino

I don't think it could get much better than that. Would be boats n hoes time in Coral Gables

 

[gogeta4]

Kentucky has basically been a run heavy offense for the last 5 years, which leads me to believe that’s the style the Mark prefers... He may have fired Gran, but they’re still not throwing the ball under Coen’s play calling.

But lets say he comes to Miami, is he gonna abandon that philosophy if it’s produced his best results for him?

Has Mark Stoops ever had an OC that placed an emphasis on throwing the ball?

If Miami had the personnel to support a pound the rock offense he’d be perfect, but from looking at our roster going forward doesn’t appear we have the horses for that kind of race.

Everybody on here wants Mario Cristobal and he runs the same type of archaic type of offense.

I would rather a guy that can atleast coach up one side of the ball on his own.

But i get you....we aint getting the type of road grader ol they get for awhile. But i also think Stoops isnt dumb enouhg to come to MIAMI of all places and run that type...you run that type of stuff at a place like UK that cant get the same type of athletes that we have banging down our door yearly