SEC Slurping

[frostycane]

Again I’m done here. It’s week three, I’ll just continue to revisit this as the year goes along.

 

[ncncanes]

We looked like a bunch of high functioning retards for 2 and a half quarters on national TV. But I still think dropping 15 spots was a bit harsh. I think dropping 6 or 8 spots would have been more appropriate, especially considering LSU has gone on to show that beating us wasn't a one-off fluke.

On national TV and no other games were on....... LSU has a great D ....not much more but that was enough

 

[gogeta4]

That’s desperate! You’re reaching back to last year to comment about things going on this year? That’s just stupid and you’ve lost all credibility to rock Prop Joe as your avatar after that “comment” (assuming that’s you, and that your account hasn’t been hacked).

Gogeta, you’re better than that; or at least I thought you were. But continuing to **** ride a weak conference in light of all the evidence showing just how weak the ACC is this year is ... well, let me put it another way: “you want it to be one way, but it’s the other way”.

I dont d*ckride or think about conference...i only care about this U. I leave that for yall to do. Im not sure why SEC teams are brought on this board much

 

[Loose Cannon]

On national TV and no other games were on....... LSU has a great D ....not much more but that was enough

That's what ****es me off the most. There was no film on Edsminger and Burrow, so if their offense had come out and waxed us, that'd be excusable. But there's plenty of film on Dave Aranda, yet we come out like we had no idea that they run blitz on 1st and 2nd, and play tight zone on 3rd and long.

 

[gogeta4]

I don't know why this is a hard concept.

When your #1 team(ranked #6) in your conference plays the #3 team(ranked #9) in the SEC.....Beat them...don't lose like UW did.
When your #2 team (ranked #8) in your conference plays the #5 team(ranked #25) in the SEC......Don't fall behind 33-3.
When your #1 team(ranked #2) in your conference plays the #7 team in the SEC(unranked)......Don't need a failed 2-point conversion to win.

You think the #2 SEC team is going down by 30 to the #5 team in any other conference?
You think the #1 SEC team is going to need a missed 2 point conversion to survive the 7th best team in any other conference?

Don't want the SEC to continue to get sucked off.....beat them in those nationally televised non-conference games.

Then comes bowl season and they get handed. Stop d*ckriding 3 weeks in

 

[monkey1371]

Then comes bowl season and they get handed. Stop d*ckriding 3 weeks in

Maybe....But don't be b_tch whining when some 12-1 team from the PAC 12 or ACC champ gets left out of the playoff in favor of 2 SEC teams, possibly a 2 loss SEC team this year.

Those were season long perception setting games because there just aren't that many non-conference match-ups and virtually no opportunity to change it.....Clemson can beat up on South Carolina during rivarly week, FSU beat up UF, but that won't change the perception. Unless GT upsets UGA, there is no opportunity to create a counter argument before the playoffs.

You can accuse me of d*ckriding all you want, but outside of our local bubble, that is reality of what the rest of the 99% of the country perceives.

 

[WeareNOTback]

Well using your unflawed logic Mismi is right on based on their preseason ranking. They were Top ten, took a big big drop for their bad loss, yet ATM was not ranked preseason have a loss albeit a “quality loss” and has only beaten two garbage teams. And now they are Ranked after beating ULM! Yet Cal or a BYU are way behind them even though they are undefeated or a one loss team WITH a quality WIN @ that teams place. I obviously won’t be able to get you to see it. But think of it like this aTm is probably what the 6th or 7th best team. They will more than likely lose to Bama LSU and Auburn, but they will win like a MSU game and be a four loss ranked in the top twenty at years end just like LSU was last year. So yeah 1-4 against teams with a pulse on your record is over ranking if your ranked st that point. Or like 4 loss Auburn at like 12? Yeah that’s over rated IMO

It's obvious after three games that Miami and AM should be ranked more closely than the pre season rankings. Miami was ranked too high, especially after the way they ended the season. If anything, Miami was shown some positive bias in their pre season ranking.

 

[WeareNOTback]

Then comes bowl season and they get handed. Stop d*ckriding 3 weeks in

The SEC is rarely on the outside looking in when the bowl season is over. Meaning, they are typically the strongest conference from start to finish. Last year they weren't, but that is pretty rare in the last 20 years or so.

 

[monkey1371]

BC is undefeated. And you basically made my argument, IMO. A&M moves up by losing. That happens to almost NO ONE! Unless you play inthe SEC.

You are so all over the place with your arguments....it is a joke.

All Losses are the same...and 18 point loss to a team is the same as losing in OT to that team.
Winning National Semifinal games don't matter and you shouldn't be rewarded
Who you play matters until a team I like is below a team I don't, than being undefeated against cupcakes is more important.

Your logic and arguments are constantly sliding from side to side whenever it is convenient to your narrative.

PS. That same week you are whining about aTm moving up 2 spots for losing(from 29 to 27).....
#24 South Carolina fell to #40 after their loss to UGA
#25 UF completely fell out of others receiving votes after losing to Kentucky
#32 Ole Miss fell from #32 to #36 after beating Southern Illinois 76-41
Yet FSU was still receiving votes after needing to comeback in last few minutes at home to Samford that week...

Explain how the SEC bias is in effect there? You won't you will just ignore and move the goal posts.

You are like that person that says the NBA lottery is always rigged. Yet ignore when you have a generational talent like Tim Duncan coming out and darling Boston has the most ping pong balls, somehow small market San Antonio ends up with him. You cherry pick a few examples and ignore the mountain of other data that contradicts your argument.

 

[CaneDog66]

Speaking of which no way is ND deserve to be #7 at this point - barely beat Ball State and Vandy. Overrated

If there ever was a team who should’ve dropped even in a win, it’s ND. They haven’t looked impressive at all and given where they were last year finishing up the season with 3 losses, they should be viewed under the same microscope at Miami is; a wait and see attitude on if they are truly back to their old ways of winning big games like the past. Them being ranked #7 if a clear bias towards them, and against the Canes.

 

[Mikeiavelli]

If there ever was a team who should’ve dropped even in a win, it’s ND. They haven’t looked impressive at all and given where they were last year finishing up the season with 3 losses, they should be viewed under the same microscope at Miami is; a wait and see attitude on if they are truly back to their old ways of winning big games like the past. Them being ranked #7 if a clear bias towards them, and against the Canes.

I agree with this. They are always up there in the rankings until someone comes along and shows the world ND's true colors. They are never as good as their early rankings suggest. And yea, they are barely beating crappy teams. And the Michigan win doesn't look all that wonderful now. I am assuming/hoping that VT will beat them...but VT hasn't really played anyone either so no way to know about them yet either.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

Wisconsin losing to an unranked BYU at home (BYU is now #25) has more value than Miami losing to the team that is now ranked #6?

You're absolutely right. Except...

We've lost 4 straight games against P5 opponents, and none of those games have even been particularly close. If half of our fan base can see that we're not very good, why shouldn't the rankers see that as well?

The only way to get back is to take it back. Nobody should be whining about our ranking unless and until we sweep the rest of this schedule and meet up with Clem$on in the ACCCG. If we run the table and find a way to beat the Dabo's, the rankings will take care of themselves.

I predict the above won't happen (even though I hope it does), in which case,...well, the rankings will take care of themselves.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

I dont d*ckride or think about conference...i only care about this U. I leave that for yall to do. Im not sure why SEC teams are brought on this board much

Fact is, ACC looks like complete trash right now. Even the mighty Clem$on, whom we've allowed to be our standard bearer, is looking quite mortal. SEC and Big10 both look far superior, even with some of the early season Big10 losses. Pac12 and Big12, meh, but they're no worse than the ACC.

This nonsense about rankings bias has its place and time. Now is NOT that time. It just looks foolish.

 

[frostycane]

Maybe....But don't be b_tch whining when some 12-1 team from the PAC 12 or ACC champ gets left out of the playoff in favor of 2 SEC teams, possibly a 2 loss SEC team this year.

Those were season long perception setting games because there just aren't that many non-conference match-ups and virtually no opportunity to change it.....Clemson can beat up on South Carolina during rivarly week, FSU beat up UF, but that won't change the perception. Unless GT upsets UGA, there is no opportunity to create a counter argument before the playoffs.

You can accuse me of d*ckriding all you want, but outside of our local bubble, that is reality of what the rest of the 99% of the country perceives.

What exactly is OUR bubble? There is no way in **** I am buying that you are a canes fan! Any canes fan can see the bias for the SEC and the Big Ten. They get every break out there. Heck the year OSU won the natty IMO they didnt even belong in the **** playoff. They lost to an ok VT team at HOME no less. So if you want to rank losses then explain that one? I honestly do not see how you can not see the bias. Heck compare preseason rankings for the SEC and then go half way through on almost any given year. Other than Bama you will see SEC teams jumping all over, teams that lose stay ranked or teams that do beat a good team jump real fast. UF is a perfect example. What in the heck did they do to deserve to be ranked in the preseason?

You are so all over the place with your arguments....it is a joke.

All Losses are the same...and 18 point loss to a team is the same as losing in OT to that team.
Winning National Semifinal games don't matter and you shouldn't be rewarded
Who you play matters until a team I like is below a team I don't, than being undefeated against cupcakes is more important.

Your logic and arguments are constantly sliding from side to side whenever it is convenient to your narrative.

PS. That same week you are whining about aTm moving up 2 spots for losing(from 29 to 27).....
#24 South Carolina fell to #40 after their loss to UGA
#25 UF completely fell out of others receiving votes after losing to Kentucky
#32 Ole Miss fell from #32 to #36 after beating Southern Illinois 76-41
Yet FSU was still receiving votes after needing to comeback in last few minutes at home to Samford that week...

Explain how the SEC bias is in effect there? You won't you will just ignore and move the goal posts.

You are like that person that says the NBA lottery is always rigged. Yet ignore when you have a generational talent like Tim Duncan coming out and darling Boston has the most ping pong balls, somehow small market San Antonio ends up with him. You cherry pick a few examples and ignore the mountain of other data that contradicts your argument.

funny enough I feel like you do the same thing. That same week those teams fell out, other SEC teams filled their spots. Please explain how UF has done anything to deserve to be ranked. I’m not saying there’s such thing as a good loss. I’m saying when x acc team loses they tend to fall much further than an sec team. And I’m saying sec teams get unfair bumps that always seem to fall just right so other teams in your conference get ranked wins. Please show me teams that have lost and not fallen or rather gained spots. Show me how UM drops x number of spots for losing to LSU while Auburn loses albeit a close game, but it was a home game! I think home losses are a huge deal, and usually the voters do too until however an sec team loses at home.
FSU receiving votes? Speaking of moving the bars, but I’ll play. They suck, they didn’t deserve any, How in the **** do you justify UF getting votes now? Is it that awesome home win vs Colorado state? Or how about that terrible loss to what will more than likely end up a sub .500 Kentucky again At Home no less. But that’s quickly forgotten and here they are, they beat Tennessee this weekend how close to the top 25 you think they will be?

Again I have showed you where, how and why I think the sec bumps their teams up the rankings unfairly. I’ve showed you aTm moving way up for beating NO one. Just pointed out UF with s terrible home loss and two garbage wins getting votes already, I showed you the end of last year stuff with 4 loss AU ahead of 8-9 3 loss teams. **** there have been so many posts I don’t even recall them. And honestly I have nothing to prove, I have a theory and I honestly think it’s fairly well backed up and documentable.

What you have done is try to not pick my words from varying posts and tried to twist them to fit your sec bias. It’s cool even up here in Vermont I meet plenty of meatheads that can’t see the forest from the trees.

 

[gogeta4]

i mean this theory has been out for over a decade on the sec glitch. This dude is obviously not a cane fan and likely an LSU fan or another sec homer.

early high preseason rankings...
Bump up by underdogs the week when playing the favorite teams (Bama or GA or whomever is the cream of the conference divisions)
They create the screen of a high rank SEC game...get fluffed up by ESPN all week as they blew money on the SEC Network. And voila you have the recipe for what they want which is the possibility of 2 sec teams in the playoffs. I mean it was so bad last year with the Bama loss and the chances of another conference winning that they made sure they got them in it even though they didnt even win their side.

Its gotten so bad that even cane fans have fell for it like some sort of kids..because they watch espn as well. I mean wtf is Auburn? wtf is Miss State? shuffle that list every year and their conference is a 2 team conference with a bunch of overhyped average teams with fanatical fan bases with nothing to do. I mean the SEC EAST is some str8 trash but i guess....SEC SEC. Its annoying at this point.