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QuatroCane said:
lulz, the benchmark is now completion percentage not W's or L's, LMAO
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This right here ^ I want you to say out loud to yourself that it wasn't a team effort that we won 10 games but rosier was the soul reason to win all those games and not once was he bailed out by our skill positions or defense...
 
Quatro, your on your own, these two guys are utter idiots, sorry man, I got no more time for this
 
OkieCane said:
and I gave him Total QBR, yet he quotes "completion %", which is actually figured into the QBRs as a component. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The main knock against Rosier is completion percentage (which is why I posted it, genius). A large portion of our drives on the year were halted because Rosier was horribly inaccurate and couldn't make a simple pass. This led to a lot of 3 and outs which put our defense right back on the field. QBR tends to be over inflated now, especially with the playmakers that we had on offense. But go ahead and stray away from the main premise that everyone's citing. You and @QuatroCane appear to be the two geniuses arguing on an island all by yourselves.
 
PokemonFisherman said:
This right here ^ I want you to say out loud to yourself that it wasn't a team effort that we won 10 games but rosier was the soul reason to win all those games and not once was he bailed out by our skill positions or defense...
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Of course it's a team game and our defense was a huge factor is the success of last year, who said otherwise? You can't pick one aspect of three games where he played well and try to use that are you basis of argument...well you can, but you look foolish in doing so.
Again, fact is you're within reason to blame one loss solely on him, Pitt, but in doing so you invalidate your whole team game mantra.
 
OkieCane said:
Do you actually watch games????

We beat Duke (Overall #21 D in the nation) 31-6, he had 270 yards passing, 2TD (A 163 QB rating) and ran for 45 yards and a TD.

Against UNC he threw for 356 yards and 3TDs, on the road in a win

Against UVA he threw for 3 TDs and ran for another TD in a blowout win

Tell me you are not serious?? TELL ME

In summary 3-0 record, 10 total TDs, and a QBR average of 148. That's "crap" to you?????????

SMH, you are no longer to give QB "analysis" IMO
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THE END
 
orange&green84 said:
The main knock against Rosier is completion percentage (which is why I posted it, genius). A large portion of our drives on the year were halted because Rosier was horribly inaccurate and couldn't make a simple pass. This led to a lot of 3 and outs which put our defense right back on the field. QBR tends to be over inflated now, especially with the playmakers that we had on offense. But go ahead and stray away from the main premise that everyone's citing. You and @QuatroCane appear to be the two geniuses arguing on an island all by yourselves.
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The problem with your position is that you refuse to give him any credit for the 10 wins, but want him benched because of three losses and a low completion percentage.
No one is defending his completion percentage, but for me personally I refuse to sit here and let people trash the guy like he's garbage.
 
brock said:
Explain 127/130 teams on 3rd down. Why he was so inaccurate on down the field passes as well as intermediate passes?
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He is not accurate, I have said that a million times. Would you be surprised to know we were 110 the year before with Kaaya on 3rd downs?


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
QuatroCane said:
The problem with your position is that you refuse to give him any credit for the 10 wins, but want him benched because of three losses and a low completion percentage.
No one is defending his completion percentage, but for me personally I refuse to sit here and let people trash the guy like he's garbage.
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Because I recognized that the defense had to mask a lot of his shortcomings. It's also not just his accuracy either. Rosier stares down his first read and doesn't know how to go through his progressions. He'd probably be better in that respect if he had gave a crap his first 3 years (he admitted he didn't even watch film). Also, being complacent when we had a perfect season on the line during the Pitt game did it for me. But you do you, bud.
 
orange&green84 said:
Wins is a team stat. If we didn't have a really good defense, we could chalk up a few more Ls. Love guys that judge a QB based on wins. I guess Jalen Hurts is the best QB in the nation. Dude only lost two games his first two years. Amazing.
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Wins is a team stat, but there is something to be said for the fact that the TEAM did WIN with him playing QB. They couldn't seem to with Kaaya. Or anybody else. You can make all the excuses in the world about "if this", "but the defense that", blah blah for months (which people probably will), but the results are the results. There is no question that he needs to get better, I have not seen one poster say that he doesn't, and if he doesn't he will lose his job.

It's fitting you use Jalen Hurts though as your example. When maybe the best coach of all time kept playing him until there was literally one half of football left in their season and they had no choice. I wonder why Hurts did start all those games???
 
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