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puertorricane said:
So many pics you can choolse from you pick the two that help out your agenda.
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Lol, wut?

I’m assuming that was to me? I chose the two that would (hopefully) get my question answered?

Does Coker get credit for Andre Johnson dominating the NFL? Is that better? My point and question is still the same lol. He shouldn’t. Nor should Golden get knocked for Flowers/Burns not dominating. What “agenda” are you talking about?
 
Yep, as expected. The “dumb” reaction instead of actually addressing the post logically because you can’t lol.

I literally posted all of that, and all you took from it was that I chose Flowers and Burns for an example. Lol, can’t make this up.


Alright. Forget I chose those 2 since apparently they fit my invisible agenda.

Does Coker get credit for Calais Campbells NFL domination? What about Coker for Greg Olsens success? Can you answer that?

I would use a Randy example but no one he signed here dominated the NFL. So instead of going all the way back to Coker initially, I used our 2 most recent 1st round picks that popped in my head. Throw Njoku in there too. He hasn’t dominated the NFL. Is that an indictment on Golden/Richt? I’ll give you a hint, all 3 questions have the same answer.
 
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htownkidd said:
Be careful. When you speak facts that aren’t 100% negative statements for any other school, you get labeled as a “slurper”. Just a heads up. Especially this week considering who we are facing, you might wanna duck.
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Oh my g; I’ve been around long enough. I know there might be some repercussions w/ that post, but I ain’t never hid from the truth, no matter how difficult it may be to face. It’s real easy to hide behind excuses.

Going into this game, Bama’s going to be green on O, but legit on D. With us, we’ll be strong on O & decent on D. It “should” be a good game, but if it’s a blow out, I promise u it will be due to coaching & preparation.
 
htownkidd said:
Yep, as expected. The “dumb” reaction instead of actually addressing the post logically because you can’t lol.

I literally posted all of that, and all you took from it was that I chose Flowers and Burns for an example. Lol, can’t make this up. It’s like ya’ll are so pressed to be super fans and challenge people on here that the main point goes completely over your head.


Alright. Forget I chose those 2 since apparently they fit my invisible agenda.

Does Coker get credit for Calais Campbells NFL domination? What about Coker for Greg Olsens success? Can you answer that?

I would use a Randy example but no one he signed here dominated the NFL. So instead of going all the way back to Coker initially, I used our 2 most recent 1st round picks that popped in my head. Throw Njoku in there too. He hasn’t dominated the NFL. Is that an indictment on Golden/Richt? I’ll give you a hint, all 3 questions have the same answer.
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Bro is consistently reacting w/ a dumb reaction vs. articulating or presenting a counter argument to point to the contrary. Smh.
 
htownkidd said:
Lol, wut?

I’m assuming that was to me? I chose the two that would (hopefully) get my question answered?

Does Coker get credit for Andre Johnson dominating the NFL? Is that better? My point and question is still the same lol. He shouldn’t. Nor should Golden get knocked for Flowers/Burns not dominating. What “agenda” are you talking about?
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I think he is talking to OP about the thumbnail pictures.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Saban is the best leader in college football history. Lots of other coaches have had the best talent and found a way to ***** it up. He’s elite at handling kids and maintaining that winning culture. Takes a different kinda person to keep a bunch of kids who have always been the best on the field, to just be another cog in the wheel that is Saban’s Machine.

IMO he isn’t the best coach. He does develop guys, but for all the talent he brings in, he should have 20 guys dominating the NFL but he doesn’t. That says a lot.
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Couldn’t agree more….

Saban definitely knows how to make the team “re-buy” in every season. He doesn’t let his current team pretend like former players are gonna win the games for them. Easier said than done…
 
dukebeeasy305 said:
No they wouldn't Georgia doesn't "recruit" better than Alabama and they usually lose thee game to Alabama
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UGA has actually been the most talented team in CFB the past 2-3 years according to roster rankings. They've parlayed that into multiple losses most seasons and the same amount of 1st rounders as us during that span.


People say we underachieve, UGA is redefining the word.
 
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Dwinstitles said:
Let's correct the title. Sabans 5 stars vs Manny...I hate the fact that people think this guys a genius coach. He's not he just out talents u and coaches go there to hop onto another job...knowing whatever tf they run will work with those athletes. He could run the triple option and they would win.
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One of the worst takes in CIS history
 
Usafcane88 said:
UGA has actually been the most talented team in CFB the past 2-3 years according to roster rankings. They've parlayed that into multiple losses most seasons and the same amount of 1st rounders as us during that span.


People say we underachieve, UGA is redefining the word.
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It's not just recent history. In fact ESPN named them the most underachieving team in the last 40 years a few weeks ago:

www.espn.com

Which college football programs have been the biggest underachievers over the past 30 seasons?

There are certain programs that just can't seem to break through, despite some inherent traits that set them up for success. These are the teams that constantly prompt questions like "Why can't they win their league?" or "What happened to them?"
www.espn.com www.espn.com

(it's a paid article and I don't have access to it myself. I just know UGA is on top of the list based on the free preview lol).
 
Yoyo82 said:
247sports.com

2021 College Football Team Talent Composite

In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
247sports.com 247sports.com

They're pretty close
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Year in and year out Alabama is #1 or #2 Georgia just recently joined that class and mainly because Alabama hasn't broken through yet. My point was Saban is no Godsend coach he cheats and gets ghe best players like the previous poster said majority of those championships are fraudulent
 
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TrumpyCane wants to know why Saban had the following amount of losses at LSU 4, 3, 5, 1, 3.

He must have learned to coach and recruit better after his lovely stint on the Dolphins
 
Canesq said:
I’m with you on this but you have to give him some credit.

Saban has built and continues to maintain the greatest college system ever. He does have built in advantages that he wouldn’t have at Stanford for example.

But in fairness Georgia has similar advantages. So does Texas. And neither has done anything.

Saban is different. Being the king of Alabama is his happy place. He is recruiting days after winning the championship while Eddie O would be banging a coed and doing a line. That’s the difference.


But I agree he isn’t some coaching savant. It’s is easy to look good when you have scout guys that would start at many P5 schools and you have former P5 head coaches serving as interns/analysts or position coach.
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Nobody, not Texas, not Georgia, not Clemson has recruited at the level Alabama has in the modern recruiting era. During the last decade, Georgia has had the nation’s top class twice. The other eight times it was Alabama. Their 2021 class is the highest ranked class ever by 247. They recruit at such a high level that the gap between them and almost every other team is miles. Our absolute best classes we’ve signed over the last 15 years would be their worst. I give Saban credit for acquiring the ridiculous amount of talent he has over his tenure (whether legally or not). I give him credit for having the guys to make philosophical changes on both offense and defense when other teams started to catch up to them. But he’s definitely not a coaching savant. He hasn’t developed any particularly creative scheme or system. His actual coaching background is in an outdated defensive scheme that nobody runs anymore anyway. He is an elite talent acquirer. Players, coaches, the five hundred “analysts” that Bama employs. He doesn’t have to do much besides answer questions from the media every week
 
Rellyrell said:
Bro; if it was that easy to win w/ a bunch of 5 stars, then UGA would have a trophy room full of National Titles.

Since 2017 - 2021 (5 yr period) here’s the list of schools that’s had the most 5 stars

1. UGA (23)
2. Bama (21)
3. OSU (19)
4. Clemson (15)
5. LSU (10)
6. USC (6)
7. UT (6)
8. Michigan (5)
9. OU (5)
10. Texas A&M (5)

The only teams that’s won a Nat’l title during that span have been Bama (2), Clemson (2), and LSU (1).

Dude can coach; I won’t hate on him. The fact that Bama has so much turnover from coaching staff & players & they remain the same machine is impressive. Yeah they cheat, but man, once upon a time we were trotting out 5 star after 5 star during the Coker yrs & we saw how that ship sunk. It takes more than talent to win, although that helps a whole lot. ****, if talent was the only key, we would’ve won The Coastal at least 12x since 2004.
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He's the best evaluator of talent. I'm sure alot of high end UGA ain't amount to nada
 
Rellyrell said:
Bro; if it was that easy to win w/ a bunch of 5 stars, then UGA would have a trophy room full of National Titles.

Since 2017 - 2021 (5 yr period) here’s the list of schools that’s had the most 5 stars

1. UGA (23)
2. Bama (21)
3. OSU (19)
4. Clemson (15)
5. LSU (10)
6. USC (6)
7. UT (6)
8. Michigan (5)
9. OU (5)
10. Texas A&M (5)

The only teams that’s won a Nat’l title during that span have been Bama (2), Clemson (2), and LSU (1).

Dude can coach; I won’t hate on him. The fact that Bama has so much turnover from coaching staff & players & they remain the same machine is impressive. Yeah they cheat, but man, once upon a time we were trotting out 5 star after 5 star during the Coker yrs & we saw how that ship sunk. It takes more than talent to win, although that helps a whole lot. ****, if talent was the only key, we would’ve won The Coastal at least 12x since 2004.
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He can coach but he's the best evaluator. UGA can sign 100 5 stars but are they the right ones? To me Saban has the Butch eye for talent that's the edge over the other schools. He amasses talent but his talent most likely plays like that talent. Where as UGA won't hit on as many prospects as bama will. If he was a genius he would of x and O his way into being the HC of the dolphins still.

Bama hits more on there prospects cause Saban targets the right talent. If they are low rated or high he knows their potential.
 
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