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ItsAUThing.com said:
Hilarious take we've seen all weekend from the disgruntled.

Miami had TVD throwing to Rambo and a much-improved Harley last fall. Those two combined for 11 catches for 197 yards in the 2021 match-up, while Restrepo had two grabs for 30 yards and a score.

That's 13 receptions for 227 yards and three touchdowns from three key guys on the field who weren't out there this year—while Van Dyke (who threw for 381 yards and those three touchdowns last year) missed the second half of this game, while his replacement fumbled and coughed up three interceptions—Garcia with HALF of Miami's eight turnovers, including a pick six, while his fumble gave the Blue Devils the ball at the 25-yard line.

Duke also had Gunnar Holmberg at quarterback (who threw for 148 yards and an interception), instead of the feisty Riley Leonard, who took Miami to school a week after he played great in a heartbreaking loss to North Carolina.

Any more brain-busters and reasons to comprehend why last year's 47-10 win at Duke has nothing to do with this year's 45-21 home loss to the Blue Devils?
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Hmm, interesting. So you're making fun of Gunnar Holmbergs performance last year and touting Riley's this year. Yet Gunnar threw for more yards and had a better completion percentage compared to Riley this year.

Riley was better on the ground, that's it, because he sure as **** wasn't through the air. And ANYONE watching that game was yelling at the pre-snap defensive calls over and over when it was obvious Riley was running as Duke had telegraphed it all game. Yet Steele constantly had the wrong call. So that is on the players?

You than point to the production of Rambo, Harley and Restrepo who weren't out there in this game, who combined for 13 receptions, 227 yards and 3 touchdowns in last years game as if the production from our combined top three receivers was much different. Young, Ladson and Mallory combined for 11 catches, 203 yards and 3 touchdowns in this game.

And Miami was NOT scoring pre Van Dyke's injury. We had 7 on the board when he went out late in the 2nd.
 
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calinative umstudent said:
lol who thought Rambo was trash? Yeah he had some drops, but that didn't mean he was trash. Harley wasn't good, he was average and was getting force fed the ball. And average is better than what we have. At least now it looks like Colbie Young will at least be a good WR. No idea when Restrepo will play. Our RBs have been incredibly *** along with our OLine.

Honestly without TVD this is the least talented Offense (who we actually have healthy and playing) that I can think of. Seriously Parrish is just a solid RB. Nothing special. Knighton lord knows what the **** happened to him but he is legit the worst talented RB we have ever had. Thad was never good - and I never understood ANY of the hype he got in the offseason. We haven't had our best Olineman. And the rest are experienced but not good and undersized.... Like TE is the only position we are decently talented at and Arroyo is also hurt and Skinner is a skinny freshman.

I really don't see this offensive talent as being anything but mostly bummy 4 stars.
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I said fans at OU and here , where did I say me? Rambo was an average player at OU. He had some good moments and as many bad. He had consistency issues and drop issues. But only on Cis did we lose the equivalent duo of Randy Moss and Chris Carter with the loss of those two lol. Neither getting drafted and one making an NFL roster. Because there must be more excuses for suspect coaching, we all know that’s what it’s about.

Scheming to your players talents will always make guys look better than they are. Not forcing them to do things they can’t.
 
Cribby said:
I said fans at OU and here , where did I say me? Rambo was an average player at OU. He had some good moments and as many bad. He had consistency issues and drop issues. But only on Cis did we lose the equivalent duo of Randy Moss and Chris Carter with the loss of those two lol. Neither getting drafted and one making an NFL roster. Because there must be more excuses for suspect coaching, we all know that’s what it’s about.

Scheming to your players talents will always make guys look better than they are. Not forcing them to do things they can’t.
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You can say "fans were saying this" about anything though realistically. All you need is one person to say that to be saying "people were saying Rambo was trash". But as a whole people weren't saying that. And he SHOWED immediately that he was the best on the team. So it's pretty irrelevant. The fact that he wasn't a star AND immediately was the best proves how **** the group currently is. Now personally I think George, Brinson, and Smith are talented, but clearly they didn't do **** last year, and haven't really done **** this year either. Like we can talk all we want about scheme and coaches, but the FACT is the talent is objectively much worse - especially with injuries. Like RB wasn't even good last year, but it's ******* horrible this year. WR wasn't all-stars last year and is ******* horrible this year. OLine again with Nelson out, are a bunch of experienced undersized bad players for the most part - especially bad without our starting center (and backup too) either...

So evaluate our talent last year compared to this year and tell me where we improved? And it's dishonest to put that on Mario. Sure he could have attacked the portal much harder. But we're really acting like taking a portal class like USC did should have been the expectation?

You wanna argue scheme and coaches could get this team to outperform their talent, I agree. But lets not sit here and pretend that the only difference between last year and this year is scheme. Lets not pretend like TVD was actually making accurate throws the first 4 weeks of the season. What I will also say is how we are performing today is not going to be a reflection of how we will be performing in year 3 after Mario rebuilds this program. And all the dumbasses that are taking shots at people supporting Mario are just that - dumbasses who A) won't accept that he's going to be here 5+ years no matter what B) Aren't willing to accept this entire program is in a rebuild. Sure rebuilds CAN happen quickly. Doesn't mean they have to or that if it takes a few years it is a failure.
 
Cribby said:
I said fans at OU and here , where did I say me? Rambo was an average player at OU. He had some good moments and as many bad. He had consistency issues and drop issues. But only on Cis did we lose the equivalent duo of Randy Moss and Chris Carter with the loss of those two lol. Neither getting drafted and one making an NFL roster. Because there must be more excuses for suspect coaching, we all know that’s what it’s about.

Scheming to your players talents will always make guys look better than they are. Not forcing them to do things they can’t.
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BUT they still have to execute. Look, Gattis has a lot of problems himself but he’s getting Mallory and Ladson in the middle of the field, He’s getting Colbie vertical, and he’s running space plays with Brashard and Jacolby. When you watch these plays though there seems to always be a mental failure. Mental failures isn’t the coaches. They can prepare and and coach them what to do all they want but they need mental toughness, grit, and effort. The stuff you can’t teach to not lapse in that prep. You can’t teach the dog mentality.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
Hilarious take we've seen all weekend from the disgruntled.

Miami had TVD throwing to Rambo and a much-improved Harley last fall. Those two combined for 11 catches for 197 yards in the 2021 match-up, while Restrepo had two grabs for 30 yards and a score.

That's 13 receptions for 227 yards and three touchdowns from three key guys on the field who weren't out there this year—while Van Dyke (who threw for 381 yards and those three touchdowns last year) missed the second half of this game, while his replacement fumbled and coughed up three interceptions—Garcia with HALF of Miami's eight turnovers, including a pick six, while his fumble gave the Blue Devils the ball at the 25-yard line.

Duke also had Gunnar Holmberg at quarterback (who threw for 148 yards and an interception), instead of the feisty Riley Leonard, who took Miami to school a week after he played great in a heartbreaking loss to North Carolina.

Any more brain-busters and reasons to comprehend why last year's 47-10 win at Duke has nothing to do with this year's 45-21 home loss to the Blue Devils?
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The scheme is a problem, and I don't believe Gattis will be here come next season, but it blows my mind how there's a complete aversion (among some on this board) to pointing out that our roster is a huge problem.

There isn't a scheme or coach in the world that would mask the cultural rot and complacency that this roster has. Do I think Mario has made mistakes? Absolutely. The Gattis hire isn't working out, the run-first mentality is a complete failure, and we're not getting the best out of our guys (despite how limited this roster is). However, with all the low football IQ mistakes we've seen and the complete lack of execution multiple times a game, I think turning over this roster (with recruiting and hitting the portal hard) is the most important priority. That, and bringing in an OC that matches our personnel.
 
Zbrod95 said:
BUT they still have to execute. Look, Gattis has a lot of problems himself but he’s getting Mallory and Ladson in the middle of the field, He’s getting Colbie vertical, and he’s running space plays with Brashard and Jacolby. When you watch these plays though there seems to always be a mental failure. Mental failures isn’t the coaches. They can prepare and and coach them what to do all they want but they need mental toughness, grit, and effort. The stuff you can’t teach to not lapse in that prep. You can’t teach the dog mentality.
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It's frustrating to re-watch, but there were completely blown opportunities in every one of our losses that - had we even converted on half of them - would've led to wins. Coaching is an issue, but this roster just can't execute. I've never seen a team blow so many opportunities or kill their own momentum as often as we do.
 
ucaned said:
Yet people on this board claim Mario is not a great coach, just a great recruiter. As has already been pointed out, his record is .500, not very impressive. Butch coached at FIU as well, took UM through probation, was said to be a bad game day coach, yet he is about .580 with vacated wins.

The PAC12 is a poor conference and USC was down to top it off. It was the great time to be there, yet he still found ways to lose to inferior opponents. This, and what is happening currently should be extremely concerning. As posted above, we pay for culture guys, bring in a culture guy, yet complain about the culture. Maybe, just maybe, the issue stems beyond the players.
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This may be the most bull chit of all bull chit of reasoning.

“Butch coached at FIU as well, took UM through probation, was said to be a bad game day coach, yet he is about .580 with vacated wins.”

Wtf does this even mean? Butch coached at Miami, UNC & FIU. Guess what? If u removed FIU’s record from his coaching tenure, he would have a .648 win pct. That’s right, him coaching at FIU **** near reduced his win % by a full point. THAT’S HOW BAD FIU IS. There’s literally no successful coach in FIU’s history. Mario is the first & only coach to win a bowl game & a conference title there.

U mofos love to include his FIU tenure, yet fail to acknowledge no coach EVER have won chit there, & the only coach who brought them some hardware was Mario. Ohhh; that’s right, FIU under Mario won a conference title b4 The U in 18 yrs in the ACC. Let that sit in & marinate. A school that is under .500 as a program in its entire history has a conference title b4 us.
 
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Rellyrell said:
This may be the most bull chit of all bull chit of reasoning.

“Butch coached at FIU as well, took UM through probation, was said to be a bad game day coach, yet he is about .580 with vacated wins.”

Wtf does this even mean? Butch coached at Miami, UNC & FIU. Guess what? If u removed FIU’s record from his coaching tenure, he would have a .648 win pct. That’s right, him coaching at FIU **** near reduced his win % by a full point. THAT’S HOW BAD FIU IS. There’s literally no successful coach in FIU’s history. Mario is the first & only coach to win a bowl game & a conference title there.

U mofos love to include his FIU tenure, yet fail to acknowledge no coach EVER have won chit there, & the only coach who brought them some hardware was Mario. Ohhh; that’s right, FIU under Mario won a conference title b4 The U in 18 yrs in the ACC. Let that sit in & marinate. A school that is under .500 as a program in its entire history has a conference title b4 us.
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But that's the thing, you cannot remove the past, well, because it happened. Yes, us mofos remember the past, and that he did coach at FIU, and was fired from FIU. Effing FIU, from his Boy Pete.

I brought up Butch because folks on this board love to compare the two. Both are bad game day coaches, but they can recruit they say. However, it is yet to be seen if Mario can identify talent like Butch. Butch had a harder road and more success, yet you only want to compare what makes Mario look good. What has he coached now, 10 years on only two double digit win years?

Yeah, a 7-6 FIU team shared the conference title. Had they beat FAU or MTSU, imagine that, MTSU, both ranked lower in the conference, FIU would have won it outright. Funny, have we noticed a pattern of losing games he shouldn't? Maybe that is why our fans, not me, call him a poor game day coach. I flat out did not want him here. Nor did I want Butch this go around. I thought at minimum a national coaching search should have been conducted.

Tell me though, did FIU ever beat Miami before Butch? Butch out coached his way to a victory over a much more talented team. One of the most disgraceful loses in our history was given by Butch at FIU, because we cannot rewrite history.

But hey, if we remove all losses for Mario he is undefeated, and we are on our way to the conference championship, playoffs and a MNC. However we are a 3-4 team that has clearly regressed. Perhaps now you understand a bull chit of bull chit arguments. Lucky for Mario there is virtually only one way to go next season as it cannot get much worse than this. We will win 9 maybe 10 games and people will gush at how great he is, yet he will still be in the long line from Coker less Butch players to Manny.

I want Mario to have great success, I think the program needs to have Mario have great success. I do not think we can sustain failure from him, but I just wish the future was not on his shoulders. This is the ACC and Clemson is not as dominate as they were, it is the perfect time to succeed in this conference, yet we are 3-4 and already have rumbling from inside. The CEO built his dynasty and in less than a year the core seems shaky at best. Every single guy was picked by Mario, this is not like what Jimmy took over, he is a top 10 paid coach, with a top paid staff and a top bag man. No excuses, and you should not be making them for him, FIU or not. He owns this, and hopefully if/when he wins it all, he can say I built this. But if the ship goes down...
 
ssvir said:
At the risk of inciting a @SWFLHurricane rant .... Romberg was rag dolled against O*U and was literally one of the top three reasons we don't officially have a 6th ring (1. Terry Porter 2. Not burning Frank Gore's redshirt and 3. Romberg being abused).
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I have no connection to Romberg....don't know why you felt it necessary to mention me....
 
Maybe it takes good players on a team with a culture focused on winning and accountability with coaches who can recruit and develop talent and an infrastructure that allows talented recruits to be identified.

Nah, it's lazy players OR bad coaches.
 
Srcanes93 said:
Dee Wiggins has 4 catches for 67 yards at Louisville in his 5th year playing college football. Guess his coaches at Louisville suck too. Mark Pope has 1 catch for 15 yards this season. Guess coach prime sucks at teaching guys to catch.

You have your opinion and I have mine. My opinion is this coaching staff top to bottom is the first one in a long time that is made up of guys who have been successful at the highest levels. You cannot say the same for any players on the current roster and I am willing to bet my money on the guys who have been successful over the guys who haven't.
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This. Also, if I saw our players transfer out and excel somewhere else, that would be a red flag. Can anyone name players that left us and preformed at a high level at another school? Nope because it hasn't happened...

Hightower, Wiggins, Pope, Ezzard, Lingard, etc to name a few offensively. There are probably a bunch more I'm missing that have faded away at other schools
 
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Let’s keep this really real: This team is simply average. I drank the Kool Aid myself, but watching these guys - even with the best X’s and O’s coach out there we are 8-4 at best.

Has our staff put our players in the best position to succeed given their obvious limitations? Nope and they need to own that. Our coaches did our players no favors at all.

But the reality is with our OL, WRs, LBs and secondary, we would get dog-walked if we played any good teams.

So if you are a new HC who knows that our finesse, gimmicky style of play with soft, entitled players over the past 15 years won’t cut it against the big boys, do you abandon your transition plan and revert to finesse to get a couple more wins to put lipstick on the pig, or do you bite the bullet and take your lumps and stay true to what you want to build?

Is it better to establish your culture and philosophy Year 1 and accept 6-6 knowing you’ve laid a foundation for Years 2, 3 and 4 that you can build on, or do you maximize what you already have in place Year 1 to get a better record only to slow the progress you’re expecting in Years 2-4?

I do not have the answer. Just food for thought.

My only point is let’s not kid ourselves - This is an average team that even with the best coaching in the world was only going to do so much this year. Only so much portalling you can do in one year to cover up the mess that is our roster.
 
ssvir said:
At the risk of inciting a @SWFLHurricane rant .... Romberg was rag dolled against O*U and was literally one of the top three reasons we don't officially have a 6th ring (1. Terry Porter 2. Not burning Frank Gore's redshirt and 3. Romberg being abused).
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A few years back he also admitted during one of his terrible radio segments with that girl from UF that the key reason that the 2002 squad - which is amongst the most talented teams ever in the history of cfb - lost to a vastly inferior OSU team is that before the game the UM players thought the national championship was in the bag and they didn't take Ohio State seriously.

On paper the 2002 NC game had to be one of the biggest mismatches in terms of talent, yet Romberg and co. blew it. Yeah TP robbed UM at the end, but it should never have come down to that. Not even close. It's funny that Romberg thinks the team doesn't have dogs like his old UM teams. If we'd had a roster loaded with "dogs" that wanted to win more than anything in 2002 , UM would have won at least 4 TDs.
 
Srcanes93 said:
He isn't can't bench the entire team. You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes but based on some tweets we have seen recently coaches are calling out entire units in meetings and during his press conference Mario basically said he doesn't have players willing to work hard. This is a big boy coaching staff who knows what it takes to compete at a very high level and aren't afraid to let their current players know they don't have what it takes. That can be very hard for these guys who have been told their whole life they will make millions in the NFL.
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I think Thad standing on the sideline all game last week is a good example....
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
I think Thad standing on the sideline all game last week is a good example....
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Thad has everything you want in power back with speed but never nurtured his talent.
After every play he carried the ball he got up shaking his head in displeasure as a RB coach should nip this attitude quickly, Thad I don’t want to ever see failure acknowledgment again in your play.

Soon these players will all be gone whom are making a dynamite HC look bad.

People when you have a team loaded with this your STUCK in MUD it’s a helpless feeling to see studs like Thad who looks the part till you give him the ball .

GOCANES
 
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