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TimeBum said:
A few years back he also admitted during one of his terrible radio segments with that girl from UF that the key reason that the 2002 squad - which is amongst the most talented teams ever in the history of cfb - lost to a vastly inferior OSU team is that before the game the UM players thought the national championship was in the bag and they didn't take Ohio State seriously.

On paper the 2002 NC game had to be one of the biggest mismatches in terms of talent, yet Romberg and co. blew it. Yeah TP robbed UM at the end, but it should never have come down to that. Not even close. It's funny that Romberg thinks the team doesn't have dogs like his old UM teams. If we'd had a roster loaded with "dogs" that wanted to win more than anything in 2002 , UM would have won at least 4 TDs.
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Wasn’t it Portis (who left after 2001) posting flyers celebrating Miami‘s presumed win over Ohio State?
 
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TemplarCane said:
I don’t understand how or why Thad is in the doghouse.

Rooster fumbles…come back in…drops a pass….comes back in.
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this falls on coaching. its what I also wen back to. I can blame a player for fumbling missed tackles. it's on the coach to pull that kid if he continues to make the same mistake. we continue to see the same guys out there making the same mistake. worst part the team is regressing beyond just injuries from week 1. its getting worse and worse
 
The Sphinx said:
Let’s keep this really real: This team is simply average. I drank the Kool Aid myself, but watching these guys - even with the best X’s and O’s coach out there we are 8-4 at best.

Has our staff put our players in the best position to succeed given their obvious limitations? Nope and they need to own that. Our coaches did our players no favors at all.

But the reality is with our OL, WRs, LBs and secondary, we would get dog-walked if we played any good teams.

So if you are a new HC who knows that our finesse, gimmicky style of play with soft, entitled players over the past 15 years won’t cut it against the big boys, do you abandon your transition plan and revert to finesse to get a couple more wins to put lipstick on the pig, or do you bite the bullet and take your lumps and stay true to what you want to build?

Is it better to establish your culture and philosophy Year 1 and accept 6-6 knowing you’ve laid a foundation for Years 2, 3 and 4 that you can build on, or do you maximize what you already have in place Year 1 to get a better record only to slow the progress you’re expecting in Years 2-4?

I do not have the answer. Just food for thought.

My only point is let’s not kid ourselves - This is an average team that even with the best coaching in the world was only going to do so much this year. Only so much portalling you can do in one year to cover up the mess that is our roster.
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here's the thing - this isnt the nfl. losing doesn't mean you get better kids here. you gotta win what you have to recruit well. you also can succeed w left over players. you dont have to lose to ****** teams in embarrassing fashion to impose your identity. thats stupid and also bad coaching. what we have is kids that have played poorly, made mental mistakes beyond coaching, tuning out coaches and coaches that have not adjusted to the roster, that took too long to get players comfortable, and have made poor in game decisions as well. its a mix of both that has led what should be a lipstick on a pig season w the ****** schedule we have right now.
 
calinative umstudent said:
You can say "fans were saying this" about anything though realistically. All you need is one person to say that to be saying "people were saying Rambo was trash". But as a whole people weren't saying that. And he SHOWED immediately that he was the best on the team. So it's pretty irrelevant. The fact that he wasn't a star AND immediately was the best proves how **** the group currently is. Now personally I think George, Brinson, and Smith are talented, but clearly they didn't do **** last year, and haven't really done **** this year either. Like we can talk all we want about scheme and coaches, but the FACT is the talent is objectively much worse - especially with injuries. Like RB wasn't even good last year, but it's ******* horrible this year. WR wasn't all-stars last year and is ******* horrible this year. OLine again with Nelson out, are a bunch of experienced undersized bad players for the most part - especially bad without our starting center (and backup too) either...

So evaluate our talent last year compared to this year and tell me where we improved? And it's dishonest to put that on Mario. Sure he could have attacked the portal much harder. But we're really acting like taking a portal class like USC did should have been the expectation?

You wanna argue scheme and coaches could get this team to outperform their talent, I agree. But lets not sit here and pretend that the only difference between last year and this year is scheme. Lets not pretend like TVD was actually making accurate throws the first 4 weeks of the season. What I will also say is how we are performing today is not going to be a reflection of how we will be performing in year 3 after Mario rebuilds this program. And all the dumbasses that are taking shots at people supporting Mario are just that - dumbasses who A) won't accept that he's going to be here 5+ years no matter what B) Aren't willing to accept this entire program is in a rebuild. Sure rebuilds CAN happen quickly. Doesn't mean they have to or that if it takes a few years it is a failure.
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Lol, this is laughable. So we had more talent last year? The only player drafted from last year's team was Jon Ford in the 7th. We picked up 3 All-Conference players in Mesidor, Johnson, and Agude. Parrish was better than an average player in the SEC last year. The portal on paper brought in more talent than we lost last year (Nesta, Rambo, Ford, Harley, etc.) Your points that Mario will be here for 5+ years (actually 6+) is correct and he has plenty of time to bring in his talent and correct issues that are clearly evident both amongst the players and coaches.
 
hoops156 said:
this falls on coaching. its what I also wen back to. I can blame a player for fumbling missed tackles. it's on the coach to pull that kid if he continues to make the same mistake. we continue to see the same guys out there making the same mistake. worst part the team is regressing beyond just injuries from week 1. its getting worse and worse
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Duh….
 
ucaned said:
But that's the thing, you cannot remove the past, well, because it happened. Yes, us mofos remember the past, and that he did coach at FIU, and was fired from FIU. Effing FIU, from his Boy Pete.

I brought up Butch because folks on this board love to compare the two. Both are bad game day coaches, but they can recruit they say. However, it is yet to be seen if Mario can identify talent like Butch. Butch had a harder road and more success, yet you only want to compare what makes Mario look good. What has he coached now, 10 years on only two double digit win years?

Yeah, a 7-6 FIU team shared the conference title. Had they beat FAU or MTSU, imagine that, MTSU, both ranked lower in the conference, FIU would have won it outright. Funny, have we noticed a pattern of losing games he shouldn't? Maybe that is why our fans, not me, call him a poor game day coach. I flat out did not want him here. Nor did I want Butch this go around. I thought at minimum a national coaching search should have been conducted.

Tell me though, did FIU ever beat Miami before Butch? Butch out coached his way to a victory over a much more talented team. One of the most disgraceful loses in our history was given by Butch at FIU, because we cannot rewrite history.

But hey, if we remove all losses for Mario he is undefeated, and we are on our way to the conference championship, playoffs and a MNC. However we are a 3-4 team that has clearly regressed. Perhaps now you understand a bull chit of bull chit arguments. Lucky for Mario there is virtually only one way to go next season as it cannot get much worse than this. We will win 9 maybe 10 games and people will gush at how great he is, yet he will still be in the long line from Coker less Butch players to Manny.

I want Mario to have great success, I think the program needs to have Mario have great success. I do not think we can sustain failure from him, but I just wish the future was not on his shoulders. This is the ACC and Clemson is not as dominate as they were, it is the perfect time to succeed in this conference, yet we are 3-4 and already have rumbling from inside. The CEO built his dynasty and in less than a year the core seems shaky at best. Every single guy was picked by Mario, this is not like what Jimmy took over, he is a top 10 paid coach, with a top paid staff and a top bag man. No excuses, and you should not be making them for him, FIU or not. He owns this, and hopefully if/when he wins it all, he can say I built this. But if the ship goes down...
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Making excuses, this guy says. Lol I just provided u w/ tangible facts, & ur reply is excuses?

OK, cool. Let’s look it at from this angle then;

Conference Titles (since 2007):
FIU - 1
Miami - 0

Bowl Victories (since 2007):
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Overall Conference Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Diaz combined conference titles at Miami - 0

Overall Division Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
The aforementioned combined division titles at Miami - 1

So even with his “below average” record at FIU, he’s accomplished more at two programs since 2007 than we have since joining The ACC!

Yet, u drunks think that he took over a bustling & thriving program. Lol. I don’t need u to voice that out loud; all of these porst show me the mindset.

News Flash: We have the least amount of hardware from a Divisional, Conference, or Bowl Game standpoint in the ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA since Mario became a HC.

Since 2007:

National Titles:
UF - 1
FSU - 1
Miami, FAU, FIU, UCF, USF - 0

NY6 Bowls Victories:
UF - 4
FSU - 3
UCF - 2
Miami, FAU, FIU, USF - 0

Bowl Victories (Total):
UF - 8
FSU - 8
UCF - 6
USF - 5
FAU - 4
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Conference Titles:
UCF - 6
FSU - 3
FAU - 3
UF - 1
FIU - 1
Miami, USF - 0

Division Titles:
UF - 6
FSU - 5
UCF - 5
FAU - 3
USF - 1
Miami - 1
FIU - 0

This is the stank that Mario was given, yet u high *** mofos wanted him to do what in 8 months? Be Mary Muh Fckin Poppins in this bytch? The fact is even while at a trash program like FIU, he still accomplished more than what we have. Let that sink in; let alllllllllllll what I provided sink in.

This fan base is delusional af if u don’t think something has been terribly wrong w/ this PROGRAM. No, we shouldn’t have lost to a MTSU or Duke for that matter, but dammit if I haven’t said the same chit whether it was a FIU, LA Tech, GT, Duke, UNC UL, USF, BC or any other fck boy program we’ve lost to since 2004!

Give this man some breathing room b4 ushering him out the door; got ****. It has chit to do w/ excuses vs. the state of the program. Idgaf if he’s an alum or not; what I do know is he’s the most accomplished coach we’ve had, in his Prime, since forever & there’s a lot of BULL CHIT that needs to be cleared out.
 
Rellyrell said:
Making excuses, this guy says. Lol I just provided u w/ tangible facts, & ur reply is excuses?

OK, cool. Let’s look it at from this angle then;

Conference Titles (since 2007):
FIU - 1
Miami - 0

Bowl Victories (since 2007):
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Overall Conference Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Diaz combined conference titles at Miami - 0

Overall Division Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
The aforementioned combined division titles at Miami - 1

So even with his “below average” record at FIU, he’s accomplished more at two programs since 2007 than we have since joining The ACC!

Yet, u drunks think that he took over a bustling & thriving program. Lol. I don’t need u to voice that out loud; all of these porst show me the mindset.

News Flash: We have the least amount of hardware from a Divisional, Conference, or Bowl Game standpoint in the ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA since Mario became a HC.

Since 2007:

National Titles:
UF - 1
FSU - 1
Miami, FAU, FIU, UCF, USF - 0

NY6 Bowls Victories:
UF - 4
FSU - 3
UCF - 2
Miami, FAU, FIU, USF - 0

Bowl Victories (Total):
UF - 8
FSU - 8
UCF - 6
USF - 5
FAU - 4
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Conference Titles:
UCF - 6
FSU - 3
FAU - 3
UF - 1
FIU - 1
Miami, USF - 0

Division Titles:
UF - 6
FSU - 5
UCF - 5
FAU - 3
USF - 1
Miami - 1
FIU - 0

This is the stank that Mario was given, yet u high *** mofos wanted him to do what in 8 months? Be Mary Muh Fckin Poppins in this bytch? The fact is even while at a trash program like FIU, he still accomplished more than what we have. Let that sink in; let alllllllllllll what I provided sink in.

This fan base is delusional af if u don’t think something has been terribly wrong w/ this PROGRAM. No, we shouldn’t have lost to a MTSU or Duke for that matter, but dammit if I haven’t said the same chit whether it was a FIU, LA Tech, GT, Duke, UNC UL, USF, BC or any other fck boy program we’ve lost to since 2004!

Give this man some breathing room b4 ushering him out the door; got ****. It has chit to do w/ excuses vs. the state of the program. Idgaf if he’s an alum or not; what I do know is he’s the most accomplished coach we’ve had, in his Prime, since forever & there’s a lot of BULL CHIT that needs to be cleared out.
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Ah, revisionist history again, with a new spin for ya boy.

Let's see what your high *** **** has for you this time.


Oregon Division Titles since 2004 - 7, but as a fanboy you know it is really 6, that Washington won the 2020 year when Mario had a bad record, but Washington could not field a team due to the virus. So Mario did no better than those before him, and what have those coaches done since?

Oregon Conference Titles since 2004 - 6, yet again, the 2020 year is one of them where if not for covid Washington would have been in the game. Still, Chip has more, and he has hardly set the world on fire since leaving the program.

I do find it interesting though that when Pete Carroll had USC running he won the conference all but 2 of his years. Only in Pete's first and last years did Oregon win the conference. Imagine how it would have been say Pete of Lincoln had that program running. Think Oregon dominates like they did? Can't revise history like some wish to do, but food for thought.

Now you like to look back, so let's take a look at 2019. Mario had the team, the playoffs were almost assured if he won out. Now tell me what happened? Tell me what happened with this exceptional coach, the guy since 2004 that has owned the record book as opposed to Miami. No Mary Muh Fckin Poppins in this bytch, because he had the team, the horses, the QB. Tell me what happened.

Manny went 6-7 in his first year. A guy that was never a CEO went 6-7. With virtually the same team, playing Bama and MSU he went 7-5. Manny was a horrid coach, so how was he able to get more out of the players?

Again, I said to look at my first post in this thread. Yes, the stench in the program goes to the top, but you do not fix it by having a donor chose the coach. Heck we should have learned from the baseball program about that. Three coaches in a row now without a national search, looking to see who just might be a better fit. Now we have the boys club from a high school making the rules. A CEO that picks the staff without input from the coordinators. Mario was said to be chewing out coaches, so what does that tell you? To me it says he failed. He failed to make the correct hires, to get the right culture guys, the right teachers, mentors. The rot at the moment is the staff, but it shoots up to the president.

But hey, let's just roll the bus over the players, because if we don't count FIU, well, except their 7-6 conference title Mario looks good. Yeah, we need to forget some of the details about 2020, because it makes Mario look good. Oh, and we need to forget what happened in 2019, because it makes Mario look good. And let's not forget, let's blame the past at Miami, well, because Mario is failing at the moment, and it does not loo good.

The sheer fact is Mario is 65-64. He has had a chance to make the big stage and choked. He has come here and the team looks ill prepared and makes the same bonehead plays. Didn't we just set a record for penalties, then the most turnovers in a game in about 20 years? Sorry, but this is on the coaches. And stop with the bad culture, as said, he is the CEO, do something about it. When the tic tok group have no highlights they will have nothing to post after the game, but maybe they can look to portal. As said, when a guy does not want to play a position and makes demands, make demands back. As soon as the player wins, the coaches lose, not just to the one player, but to the team.

As said, stop telling me the issues are the players, the past, the culture or any other excuse until you show you are doing something about it. Right now, I see nothing that give me hope. Mario seems to be waiting on new players, but they will be poisoned by the rest if changes are not made now. Oh, and no, I not ushering Mario out the door, I realize he is here for years. I just want to see more than what I am seeing.
 
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ucaned said:
Ah, revisionist history again, with a new spin for ya boy.

Let's see what your high *** **** has for you this time.


Oregon Division Titles since 2004 - 7, but as a fanboy you know it is really 6, that Washington won the 2020 year when Mario had a bad record, but Washington could not field a team due to the virus. So Mario did no better than those before him, and what have those coaches done since?

Oregon Conference Titles since 2004 - 6, yet again, the 2020 year is one of them where if not for covid Washington would have been in the game. Still, Chip has more, and he has hardly set the world on fire since leaving the program.

I do find it interesting though that when Pete Carroll had USC running he won the conference all but 2 of his years. Only in Pete's first and last years did Oregon win the conference. Imagine how it would have been say Pete of Lincoln had that program running. Think Oregon dominates like they did? Can't revise history like some wish to do, but food for thought.

Now you like to look back, so let's take a look at 2019. Mario had the team, the playoffs were almost assured if he won out. Now tell me what happened? Tell me what happened with this exceptional coach, the guy since 2004 that has owned the record book as opposed to Miami. No Mary Muh Fckin Poppins in this bytch, because he had the team, the horses, the QB. Tell me what happened.

Manny went 6-7 in his first year. A guy that was never a CEO went 6-7. With virtually the same team, playing Bama and MSU he went 7-5. Manny was a horrid coach, so how was he able to get more out of the players?

Again, I said to look at my first post in this thread. Yes, the stench in the program goes to the top, but you do not fix it by having a donor chose the coach. Heck we should have learned from the baseball program about that. Three coaches in a row now without a national search, looking to see who just might be a better fit. Now we have the boys club from a high school making the rules. A CEO that picks the staff without input from the coordinators. Mario was said to be chewing out coaches, so what does that tell you? To me it says he failed. He failed to make the correct hires, to get the right culture guys, the right teachers, mentors. The rot at the moment is the staff, but it shoots up to the president.

But hey, let's just roll the bus over the players, because if we don't count FIU, well, except their 7-6 conference title Mario looks good. Yeah, we need to forget some of the details about 2020, because it makes Mario look good. Oh, and we need to forget what happened in 2019, because it makes Mario look good. And let's not forget, let's blame the past at Miami, well, because Mario is failing at the moment, and it does not loo good.

The sheer fact is Mario is 65-64. He has had a chance to make the big stage and choked. He has come here and the team looks ill prepared and makes the same bonehead plays. Didn't we just set a record for penalties, then the most turnovers in a game in about 20 years? Sorry, but this is on the coaches. And stop with the bad culture, as said, he is the CEO, do something about it. When the tic tok group have no highlights they will have nothing to post after the game, but maybe they can look to portal. As said, when a guy does not want to play a position and makes demands, make demands back. As soon as the player wins, the coaches lose, not just to the one player, but to the team.

As said, stop telling me the issues are the players, the past, the culture or any other excuse until you show you are doing something about it. Right now, I see nothing that give me hope. Mario seems to be waiting on new players, but they will be poisoned by the rest if changes are not made now. Oh, and no, I not ushering Mario out the door, I realize he is here for years. I just want to see more than what I am seeing.
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Lol; revisionist history.

The only part that made any sense is the last part of ur statement. U can’t revise history when all I did was provide u the current state of this program compared to even the bottom feeding schools in this state.

But carry on; for the record, I’m not a Mario “fan boy.” Idgaf who the coach is; but unlike most, I’ve recognized that this program has been completely fcked up & trash since 2004. The only reason y I was ever on Shannon’s & Diaz’s neck, along w/ being on Gino’s neck in baseball was b/c they were on staff & part of the problem, so y hire them?

Other than that, u’re entitled to ur views, homie.
 
TimeBum said:
A few years back he also admitted during one of his terrible radio segments with that girl from UF that the key reason that the 2002 squad - which is amongst the most talented teams ever in the history of cfb - lost to a vastly inferior OSU team is that before the game the UM players thought the national championship was in the bag and they didn't take Ohio State seriously.

On paper the 2002 NC game had to be one of the biggest mismatches in terms of talent, yet Romberg and co. blew it. Yeah TP robbed UM at the end, but it should never have come down to that. Not even close. It's funny that Romberg thinks the team doesn't have dogs like his old UM teams. If we'd had a roster loaded with "dogs" that wanted to win more than anything in 2002 , UM would have won at least 4 TDs.
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Not to belabor this point but OSU had a lot of guys drafted off that team.
 
Rellyrell said:
Lol; revisionist history.

The only part that made any sense is the last part of ur statement. U can’t revise history when all I did was provide u the current state of this program compared to even the bottom feeding schools in this state.

But carry on; for the record, I’m not a Mario “fan boy.” Idgaf who the coach is; but unlike most, I’ve recognized that this program has been completely fcked up & trash since 2004. The only reason y I was ever on Shannon’s & Diaz’s neck, along w/ being on Gino’s neck in baseball was b/c they were on staff & part of the problem, so y hire them?

Other than that, u’re entitled to ur views, homie.
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Gino?? @Rellyrell...didn't want his *** from the Get Go....I'll be at the Light alot this yr (don't know why I do this to myself) but I'm as big of a UM Baseball fan as Football.
 
Rellyrell said:
Making excuses, this guy says. Lol I just provided u w/ tangible facts, & ur reply is excuses?

OK, cool. Let’s look it at from this angle then;

Conference Titles (since 2007):
FIU - 1
Miami - 0

Bowl Victories (since 2007):
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Overall Conference Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, Diaz combined conference titles at Miami - 0

Overall Division Titles (since 2004)
Mario - 3
The aforementioned combined division titles at Miami - 1

So even with his “below average” record at FIU, he’s accomplished more at two programs since 2007 than we have since joining The ACC!

Yet, u drunks think that he took over a bustling & thriving program. Lol. I don’t need u to voice that out loud; all of these porst show me the mindset.

News Flash: We have the least amount of hardware from a Divisional, Conference, or Bowl Game standpoint in the ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA since Mario became a HC.

Since 2007:

National Titles:
UF - 1
FSU - 1
Miami, FAU, FIU, UCF, USF - 0

NY6 Bowls Victories:
UF - 4
FSU - 3
UCF - 2
Miami, FAU, FIU, USF - 0

Bowl Victories (Total):
UF - 8
FSU - 8
UCF - 6
USF - 5
FAU - 4
FIU - 2
Miami - 1

Conference Titles:
UCF - 6
FSU - 3
FAU - 3
UF - 1
FIU - 1
Miami, USF - 0

Division Titles:
UF - 6
FSU - 5
UCF - 5
FAU - 3
USF - 1
Miami - 1
FIU - 0

This is the stank that Mario was given, yet u high *** mofos wanted him to do what in 8 months? Be Mary Muh Fckin Poppins in this bytch? The fact is even while at a trash program like FIU, he still accomplished more than what we have. Let that sink in; let alllllllllllll what I provided sink in.

This fan base is delusional af if u don’t think something has been terribly wrong w/ this PROGRAM. No, we shouldn’t have lost to a MTSU or Duke for that matter, but dammit if I haven’t said the same chit whether it was a FIU, LA Tech, GT, Duke, UNC UL, USF, BC or any other fck boy program we’ve lost to since 2004!

Give this man some breathing room b4 ushering him out the door; got ****. It has chit to do w/ excuses vs. the state of the program. Idgaf if he’s an alum or not; what I do know is he’s the most accomplished coach we’ve had, in his Prime, since forever & there’s a lot of BULL CHIT that needs to be cleared out.
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Agree. If not for that FIU fiasco who knows what would be right now. What shalala did broke the program. We finally have a president willing to listen to the fans alum former players media and attempt to right all the wrongs And invest in the future of the program. Could you ask for more from a man who has his total heart and soul in this ressurection? Great points with your post.
 
Rellyrell said:
Lol; revisionist history.

The only part that made any sense is the last part of ur statement. U can’t revise history when all I did was provide u the current state of this program compared to even the bottom feeding schools in this state.

But carry on; for the record, I’m not a Mario “fan boy.” Idgaf who the coach is; but unlike most, I’ve recognized that this program has been completely fcked up & trash since 2004. The only reason y I was ever on Shannon’s & Diaz’s neck, along w/ being on Gino’s neck in baseball was b/c they were on staff & part of the problem, so y hire them?

Other than that, u’re entitled to ur views, homie.
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Well, Golden did win the conference in '12, so you need to update your facts. But you want to show Mario as some great coach based on his history, forget FIU except the fact that he won the conference (7-6 record) then speak of his awesome record at Oregon.

I in turn showed he was no better at Oregon than the previous two CEO's, and asked what they did when they left? (you provided no answer) Mario had a clear path in '19 to the playoffs, what happened? (you provided no answer). I am thinking the same for last season as well (care to answer this as well?)

Let's look at it this way, in 5 years at Oregon Mario won the north twice correct? Well, in a 5 year period at Miami (12-17) two different coaches won the coastal. Same number of seasons, same result, just Golden and Richt did it at a school that is "completely fcked up & trash since 2004" and Mario did it at a school that was pounding them out for years. Huh, makes you think, right?

I am not trying to battle with you, I want Mario to succeed, but some people have bloated views of his abilities and past. As of now it looks like he tried to eat an elephant in one bite, and he is choking. I hope he gets it worked out, sets a tone with the players, and makes his stamp on the program, not the past, but Mario's team, a team that builds our next dynasty.
 
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂!!!

In less than one year, the excuses are pouring in. My prediction is that MC will be gone in six years. He’ll get moar rope than all others before him given his cache.

What a complete joke. Hiring a worthless staf who only have last name street cred which is old and about to expire.
 
ucaned said:
Well, Golden did win the conference in '12, so you need to update your facts. But you want to show Mario as some great coach based on his history, forget FIU except the fact that he won the conference (7-6 record) then speak of his awesome record at Oregon.

I in turn showed he was no better at Oregon than the previous two CEO's, and asked what they did when they left? (you provided no answer) Mario had a clear path in '19 to the playoffs, what happened? (you provided no answer). I am thinking the same for last season as well (care to answer this as well?)

Let's look at it this way, in 5 years at Oregon Mario won the north twice correct? Well, in a 5 year period at Miami (12-17) two different coaches won the coastal. Same number of seasons, same result, just Golden and Richt did it at a school that is "completely fcked up & trash since 2004" and Mario did it at a school that was pounding them out for years. Huh, makes you think, right?

I am not trying to battle with you, I want Mario to succeed, but some people have bloated views of his abilities and past. As of now it looks like he tried to eat an elephant in one bite, and he is choking. I hope he gets it worked out, sets a tone with the players, and makes his stamp on the program, not the past, but Mario's team, a team that builds our next dynasty.
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Golden did not win the conference; tf? Literally lost all credibility right there.

The Coastal in 2012 was not won by us; the team that actually won it was GT; UNC would’ve won it had they not been ineligible & we were ineligible. Nice try though.

And u’re arguing something I’m not; I stated for the record where we’ve been as a complete program compared to the entire state of FL. We’ve been underachieving w consistency since 2004. So while everyone is up in arms about Duke & MTSU, my thing is what’s new? What’s been new under the current roster & their predecessors that we hadn’t seen before? Imo, the reason y ppl r up in arms is b/c of

1. Mario’s pedigree at UO & they expected he would magically fix almost 2 decades of ineptitude

2. He’s the most expensive coach we’ve ever hired & the results don’t match the salary

Or

3. They never wanted him in the first place, & this season justifiable it.

Like most of CFB who have looked in from an outside perspective, it’s tough to put Mario in cancel mode b/c of this rough start. I’m like give the dude an opportunity to clean & build. If we see the same shenanigans next season, then yeah, let’s bring out the pitch forks.
 
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SWFLHurricane said:
Gino?? @Rellyrell...didn't want his *** from the Get Go....I'll be at the Light alot this yr (don't know why I do this to myself) but I'm as big of a UM Baseball fan as Football.
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I still dont get why rad would even extend him esp after the embarrassing postseason twice now.

that really disappointed me bc I expect that from Blake to coddle up to daddy's kid but not from an experienced and successful AD like rad.
 
Rellyrell said:
Golden did not win the conference; tf? Literally lost all credibility right there.

The Coastal in 2012 was not won by us; the team that actually won it was GT; UNC would’ve won it had they not been ineligible & we were ineligible. Nice try though.

And u’re arguing something I’m not; I stated for the record where we’ve been as a complete program compared to the entire state of FL. We’ve been underachieving w consistency since 2004. So while everyone is up in arms about Duke & MTSU, my thing is what’s new? What’s been new under the current roster & their predecessors that we hadn’t seen before? Imo, the reason y ppl r up in arms is b/c of

1. Mario’s pedigree at UO & they expected he would magically fix almost 2 decades of ineptitude

2. He’s the most expensive coach we’ve ever hired & the results don’t match the salary

Or

3. They never wanted him in the first place, & this season justifiable it.

Like most of CFB who have looked in from an outside perspective, it’s tough to put Mario in cancel mode b/c of this rough start. I’m like give the dude an opportunity to clean & build. If we see the same shenanigans next season, then yeah, let’s bring out the pitch forks.
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Yep, I did list it incorrectly, I meant the coastal. Yes, we did not play due to probation, but that does not discount the accomplishment.

I have yet to cancel Mario, I said I did not want him in the first place but want him to have success. If he does not this program is likely dead. I just do not like what I see so far and see the same old issues, I would expect some improvements in discipline. Great job on the commitment last night, as Coker showed years ago, Orgeron and Smart recently, stacked rosters at this level can mask coaching to some degree.
 
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