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p.s., Berlin was allowed to transfer to us even though we played Florida
Wrong. Berlin sat out the 2002 season. UF didn't allow anything.
p.s., Berlin was allowed to transfer to us even though we played Florida
Why are people acting like the kid can't go where he wants?
Baker Mayfield wanted to transfer to Oklahoma. Texas Tech didn't want him to do that.
Baker Mayfield transferred to Oklahoma anyway. He was a walk-on at OU, and then converted to a scholarship after he sat out.
The system isn't unfair to these kids ... It just contains hurdles. The same hurdle a "buyout" or "conference non-compete clause" would be for a coach. If the next place wants you bad enough, they'll deal with it.
Considering he's a former Syracuse commit, it's way late in the game to be having "buyer's remorse". His time to leave would have been this past summer. He could have sat out the season, and would be eligible to play in 2017.
Why are people acting like the kid can't go where he wants?
Baker Mayfield wanted to transfer to Oklahoma. Texas Tech didn't want him to do that.
Baker Mayfield transferred to Oklahoma anyway. He was a walk-on at OU, and then converted to a scholarship after he sat out.
The system isn't unfair to these kids ... It just contains hurdles. The same hurdle a "buyout" or "conference non-compete clause" would be for a coach. If the next place wants you bad enough, they'll deal with it.
Considering he's a former Syracuse commit, it's way late in the game to be having "buyer's remorse". His time to leave would have been this past summer. He could have sat out the season, and would be eligible to play in 2017.
Because he can and aint a nothing any school can do about it except drag it out to the last minute. It's called a Graduate Exception.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
p.s., Berlin was allowed to transfer to us even though we played Florida
Wrong. Berlin sat out the 2002 season. UF didn't allow anything.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
One of the conditions of the 'Graduate Exception' is that:
"The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;"
One of the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' is:
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
If the school doesn't state that they have no objection, then all the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' would not be met.
Please note that the issue at hand is not about the scholarship.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
Gus is a Free Agent aint nothing U can do to stop it. Trust me Gus is pulling out because you don't want him and he know your just stringing him a long until McFarland signs and if he doesn't then Oh well why stick around when you have other fanbases that love you?
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
One of the conditions of the 'Graduate Exception' is that:
"The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;"
One of the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' is:
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
If the school doesn't state that they have no objection, then all the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' would not be met.
Please note that the issue at hand is not about the scholarship.
What is it they call you? I just explained this here it is a gain:
I read that and explained it to you again below. This is why AL and GA had to release their Graduates because in the end it doesn't matter if you OK the release or not for a Graduate.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
They call this a Free Agent in the league.
I want Gus to transfer to FSU
What about the part in red?
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
One of the conditions of the 'Graduate Exception' is that:
"The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;"
One of the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' is:
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
If the school doesn't state that they have no objection, then all the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' would not be met.
Please note that the issue at hand is not about the scholarship.
What is it they call you? I just explained this here it is a gain:
I read that and explained it to you again below. This is why AL and GA had to release their Graduates because in the end it doesn't matter if you OK the release or not for a Graduate.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
They call this a Free Agent in the league.
You seem to struggle with the actual wording of the by-laws.
He meet the one-time transfer requirement because he was a recruit and not a transfer. Therefore it is not an issue.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
One of the conditions of the 'Graduate Exception' is that:
"The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;"
One of the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' is:
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
If the school doesn't state that they have no objection, then all the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' would not be met.
Please note that the issue at hand is not about the scholarship.
What is it they call you? I just explained this here it is a gain:
I read that and explained it to you again below. This is why AL and GA had to release their Graduates because in the end it doesn't matter if you OK the release or not for a Graduate.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
They call this a Free Agent in the league.
You seem to struggle with the actual wording of the by-laws.
I would have to read that case as it relates to the BIG. That is why you need to understand ACC bylaws which do not have any restrictions on Graduate transfers. Gus is pulling out and you can't stop him.
What about the bolded part below? Why do you keep ignoring that part?
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
While the one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used, it is technically the last resort. If a student-athlete can find another transfer exception to use, it is generally better since they have fewer requirements and sometime make the transfer not count if the student-athlete needs to transfer again.
One of the conditions of the 'Graduate Exception' is that:
"The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;"
One of the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' is:
If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
If the school doesn't state that they have no objection, then all the conditions of the 'One-Time-Transfer Exception' would not be met.
Please note that the issue at hand is not about the scholarship.
What is it they call you? I just explained this here it is a gain:
I read that and explained it to you again below. This is why AL and GA had to release their Graduates because in the end it doesn't matter if you OK the release or not for a Graduate.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
They call this a Free Agent in the league.
You seem to struggle with the actual wording of the by-laws.
I would have to read that case as it relates to the BIG. That is why you need to understand ACC bylaws which do not have any restrictions on Graduate transfers. Gus is pulling out and you can't stop him.
I think the confusion here lies in the fact that when we are using the word "blocked" we are talking about forcing Gus to sit a year at his new school vs being able to play immediately. You for some reason seem to think in this context that the word 'blocked' means he can't ever go there.
Trying to have real discourse with you is like herding Moro's.
What is it they call you? I just explained this here it is a gain:
I read that and explained it to you again below. This is why AL and GA had to release their Graduates because in the end it doesn't matter if you OK the release or not for a Graduate.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.
They call this a Free Agent in the league.
You seem to struggle with the actual wording of the by-laws.
I would have to read that case as it relates to the BIG. That is why you need to understand ACC bylaws which do not have any restrictions on Graduate transfers. Gus is pulling out and you can't stop him.
I think the confusion here lies in the fact that when we are using the word "blocked" we are talking about forcing Gus to sit a year at his new school vs being able to play immediately. You for some reason seem to think in this context that the word 'blocked' means he can't ever go there.
Trying to have real discourse with you is like herding Moro's.
Like you did with Moro you still continue to misunderstand the point. Whether you choose to use the word "block" or "force" to sit out a year; it does not matter for a graduate as the rule states. That is why you saw Saban argue the silly point until his hair turned blue and still loss! If anyone was going to find a loop hole to punish a player in terms of Graduate, he would have found it.