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SouthParkCane said:
And my question to everyone is what vision can Mario Cristobal sell you to come here if you’re a top 100 WR
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You’ll get a great core & upper body workout from the blocking you’ll be doing...

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WanderFranco said:
Somehow we have 4-star RBs, TEs and WRs coming in. Are they too stupid to see that they are making a poor decision?
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But they’re highly rated Florida players, which you assert are overrated and THE reason for our terrible record over the years. Now the stars are correct? Speaking of contradictions…
 
Salt said:
Play caller and system though could mean two different things. I didn't necessarily mind a Michigan styled system. It certainly has worked for them and except for some mistakes could have been playing Georgia instead of TCU (and probably would have put up a better game). Play calling is somewhat of an art and feel which Gattis demonstrably lacks.
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100% all of this
 
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I have always told my athletes over the years to commit to a school not a coach.

I know that is not reality...but, they should. An incoming freshman can have a new position coach every year, even if they spend 90% of their time with them, I don't believe an athlete should be committing to a position coach. Head coach is more important, but again, committing to a head man is wiser than the position coach, IMO. All of these people are transient. It is the nature of the coaching profession. Staying in one place long enough to see a player develop from in-coming freshman to departing graduate is more rare than you think.

You have to be in business for yourself. Who your position coach is in the short term is nice to know and helps get your foot in the door and helps with your foundational understanding of the sport moving forward, but IMO, very far down the list things that should attract you to a school with only few exceptions. Just my opinion.
 
BoxingRobes said:
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I have always told my athletes over the years to commit to a school not a coach.

I know that is not reality...but, they should. An incoming freshman can have a new position coach every year, even if they spend 90% of their time with them, I don't believe an athlete should be committing to a position coach. Head coach is more important, but again, committing to a head man is wiser than the position coach, IMO.

You have to be in business for yourself. Who your position coach is in the short term is nice to know, but IMO, very far down the list things that should attract you to a school with only few exceptions.
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if thats the case, wed never land a WR again
 
hoops156 said:
if thats the case, wed never land a WR again
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why? If you are in a dynamic offense with rbs and tes getting touches then it's a matter of fitting in the system. Some of these guys just want to be the centerpiece and I guess that's ok but unless you are a Tyreek Hill that doesn't happen in the NFL either.

I think once we start winning we should be able to attract some high quality outside wrs. Maybe not the same numbers you might in a more dominant passing system but we've seen those types of offenses are not getting into the dance anyways.
 
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Salt said:
why? If you are in a dynamic offense with rbs and tes getting touches then it's a matter of fitting in the system. Some of these guys just want to be the centerpiece and I guess that's ok but unless you are a Tyreek Hill that doesn't happen in the NFL either.

I think once we start winning we should be able to attract some high quality outside wrs. Maybe not the same numbers you might in a more dominant passing system but we've seen those types of offenses are not getting into the dance anyways.
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lol you realize what bama has won w along w LSU right. same w Clemson
 
hoops156 said:
lol you realize what bama has won w along w LSU right. same w Clemson
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yeah, I know. But they are winning programs that will attract guys who want to get a ring no matter the position. And none of those have pass happy systems to begin with. Michigan is winning too. Yeah, I know Big 10 and all that. But their offense score over 40 points in the playoff and they still lost. Offense wasn't the problem.
 
Salt said:
yeah, I know. But they are winning programs that will attract guys who want to get a ring no matter the position. And none of those have pass happy systems to begin with. Michigan is winning too. Yeah, I know Big 10 and all that. But their offense score over 40 points in the playoff and they still lost. Offense wasn't the problem.
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Michigan wouldn't have scored on UGA again either like last year. you need an OSU type O to beat a team like uGA bc you Aren't doing it the ball control conservative way bc unlike Michigans reg season schedule, they will never ever have a talent adv over a Kirby smart team (same w us). Clemson needed a dynamic O to have a. shot against bama in the first Watson appearance and again in the W the next year. LSU smoked team scoring all over the place with non elite D. UGA still put up points all year and they dont run a Michigan offense. they used to have a crap O that struggled and it showed up in big games under Kirby until monken
 
hoops156 said:
Michigan wouldn't have scored on UGA again either like last year. you need an OSU type O to beat a team like uGA bc you Aren't doing it the ball control conservative way bc unlike Michigans reg season schedule, they will never ever have a talent adv over a Kirby smart team (same w us). Clemson needed a dynamic O to have a. shot against bama in the first Watson appearance and again in the W the next year. LSU smoked team scoring all over the place with non elite D. UGA still put up points all year and they dont run a Michigan offense. they used to have a crap O that struggled and it showed up in big games under Kirby until monken
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Georgia has a massive oline, have decent rbs, and run multiple te sets. What they have is good play caller. Georgia’s system is very much in keeping with Mario’s philosophy imo
 
Salt said:
Georgia has a massive oline, have decent rbs, and run multiple te sets. What they have is good play caller. Georgia’s system is very much in keeping with Mario’s philosophy imo
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eh. ill agree to disagree bc they are way more creative and varied than we are in terms of play design. theyre not full on bag of tricks but they are a combination of diff things which work esp w their talent (they lack high end talent at WR imo but bowers is a freak who makes up for it all). even TCU which comes from an air raid coach had a RB who ran for nearly 1400 yards. we can be both we just can't be super slow and condensed the way we were
 
hoops156 said:
eh. ill agree to disagree bc they are way more creative and varied than we are in terms of play design. theyre not full on bag of tricks but they are a combination of diff things which work esp w their talent (they lack high end talent at WR imo but bowers is a freak who makes up for it all). even TCU which comes from an air raid coach had a RB who ran for nearly 1400 yards. we can be both we just can't be super slow and condensed the way we were
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Just tells you the issue with us is getting the oline straight, getting horses in the backfield, and dynamic tes. In this system high end wrs are a luxury not necessity.

I agree with the play calling being more creative but Georgia is built like a bro style offense. They have the horses overall which we are lacking. Mario is trying to do the same as Smart though in how he is building his team.
 
Cribby said:
I said last year there was a narrative on Mario in football circles, him
and his offenses were already getting negative recruited and it’s even worse now. I know for an absolute fact kids went elsewhere for less NIL to play in better systems. And I’m not just talking the obvious one.
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That's why I said Gattis has costs this university a lot more than his contract.

Sometimes I wish I could treat a dumbazz like a cyalume light stick.

Snap it, shake the **** out of it until it lights up.

Come ON Mario! Do something!
 
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Is Kevin Beard out there? Can we get a WR coach that didn't play defensive back for Wake? Maybe one that isn't also this OC?
 
jjpuppet said:
We got 2 4 star recruits, Hardly unproductive
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Robbie and Joseph are nice players who are ranked in the 250s. They might turn out to be very good but they are not the stars that Bama, UGa, and even UF are landing. Quality coaching could help them, but their position coach sucks and so does their OC. Fire the guy.
 
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