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this kind of stuff is so useful if you can communicate it well.

It’s how belen beat northwestern on the free kick. We could accurately determine run or pass 100% of the time based on their OL stance. We held Amari Cooper catchless and scored twice of defense.
 
BostonCanes47 said:
Yikes, guy averaged 2.8 yards per carry and you told them GT was honing in on him tipping plays and the Miami guy tells you it’s by design and no biggie?

Doesnt tip anything even though an opposing coach said it was tipping and he ran for 2.8 per carry. Not great Bob!
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Yep.

Watched some of the condensed A&M and Temple games. Didn’t look like a huge deal vs A&M - they rotated backs a lot more and used different formations where it wasn’t as prevalent. When Parrish was deep we did show we’d pull it from the mesh and hit a quick screen (TVD to Restrepo side armed), a slant, etc. Had an effective RPO game with it. Also, the goal line play to Young in the flat was a result of pulling it with this alignment.

We’ve also done the orbit motion around the pistol many times and then run inside zone out of it. Showed it to A&M twice and then took advantage of it on George’s TD where he cut it off and we hit him in the flat and he beat them to the pylon.

We hit some RPOs pulling it at the mesh point against Temple.

Looks like the issue really started against GT and it was an in-game thing. My guess is they found out if they sat in a certain defense, the numbers told TVD to hand it and he did every time and they dictated our RPO and essentially knew what was coming. Might be what the guy was alluding to when I told him. Timing for the RPO to give the QB time to hold mesh and read his queue to give or pull.

Have to adapt this week and pull it a few times going off-script of a traditional RPO. Or change the read-man we’re making decisions off of. Or scrap the RPO game almost entirely
 
JayCane20 said:
Yep.

Watched some of the condensed A&M and Temple games. Didn’t look like a huge deal vs A&M - they rotated backs a lot more and used different formations where it wasn’t as prevalent. When Parrish was deep we did show we’d pull it from the mesh and hit a quick screen (TVD to Restrepo side armed), a slant, etc. Had an effective RPO game with it. Also, the goal line play to Young in the flat was a result of pulling it with this alignment.

We’ve also done the orbit motion around the pistol many times and then run inside zone out of it. Showed it to A&M twice and then took advantage of it on George’s TD where he cut it off and we hit him in the flat and he beat them to the pylon.

We hit some RPOs pulling it at the mesh point against Temple.

Looks like the issue really started against GT and it was an in-game thing. My guess is they found out if they sat in a certain defense, the numbers told TVD to hand it and he did every time and they dictated our RPO and essentially knew what was coming. Might be what the guy was alluding to when I told him. Timing for the RPO to give the QB time to hold mesh and read his queue to give or pull.

Have to adapt this week and pull it a few times going off-script of a traditional RPO. Or change the read-man we’re making decisions off of. Or scrap the RPO game almost entirely
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Wow - that's interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing. Definitely not good if we're tipping our play calls.

But - GT is 130th in run defense. Our whole team should've been able to straight up tell them "we're running the ball on this play" and still average 5 ypc.
 
bshaw28 said:
Wow - that's interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing. Definitely not good if we're tipping our play calls.

But - GT is 130th in run defense. Our whole team should've been able to straight up tell them "we're running the ball on this play" and still average 5 ypc.
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If we had a good run game, yes. Piling up big yardage against M(OH), Bethune, and Temple doesn't make us a good running team. Our RBs, run-blocking, and run schemes are all average.
 
Unsider said:
Our OC needs to break out of taking things for granted. There are smart people out there who can sniff out tendencies. Needs to mix things up, and yes, include the kneel in his playbook.
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He's been at the G5 level most of his career. He's never faced the quality of coordinators he will see this season. We will see if he can adapt.
 
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This thread makes me nauseous. Not because of the substance, but because of the response you apparently got.

Organizations usually take on the personality of their leader. If our leaders don’t value little details and tiny (or massive, game-winning) advantages, it’s more likely the people hired/support won’t, either. Not everything can be about the ‘broad strokes’ and the ‘general grind.’ Yes, as clearly critical as we all admit those things are.

At a P5 level, like I’ve said this week a couple times, if you’re not strategizing for counters to counters, you’re behind.

Whatever, at least we immediately called timeout after a 3rd down stop prior to halftime. Those previous delays - however many seconds would roll - were driving me nuts.
 
Mklein13 said:
I don't understand why Chaney, Allen, even Johnson didn't get more snaps. Parrish falls down if you touch him with a finger. Chaney was the better rb Saturday up until the fumble.
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What’d I miss?

I didn’t see a fumble.

On a serious note, Don has been running with a purpose all season long. It’s been a breath of fresh air.
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Chip Kelly used to bait d coordinates with **** like that at Oregon, that why he lead the nation in explosive plays but also negative yardage plays. Not that we’re trying that but just while on the topic.
 
88 said:
Chip Kelly used to bait d coordinates with **** like that at Oregon, that why he lead the nation in explosive plays but also negative yardage plays. Not that we’re trying that but just while on the topic.
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Lashlee did the same thing. Show them the same thing 3 or 4 times and then use it to cash in a big play.

Might work for us against UNC - not that it was planned that way.

Dawson has done it with the Riley Williams TD - sort of inadvertently. You could tell they left him open several times before and they did it again. Play still wasn't going there but TVD saw it and clutched on his previous read then hit him for the TD.

The TD to George on the fake orbit motion against A&M, a pop pass to Brashard that he took up the sideline was another, and leaking Young out at the goal line on an RPO was another. Not as big of plays as Lashlee used to draw up but it's something. Need more.
 
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SCarolina Ibis said:
Thanks for letting them know.

That's an odd reply though. Because even if "it's a comfortability/timing thing and it's by design," that doesn't mean it isn't tipping them off.

I'd like to see if this was the case in any other games. Its definitely something they need to look at.
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The comment by our analyst to be completely dismissive of it instead of saying we will have to take a look is so on brand for us as a program. Even if it turns out to be by design or whatever, the fact another team said they had a key due to alignment is something you have to look at.
 
JHallCanes said:
I’m gonna have some thoughts about UNC on Friday and they ain’t gonna be pretty

**** them dudes
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I’m watching a YT video of this tar heel dude talking sh about hurricanes leave NC. Blah blah blah. Bruh do I got to get on these dudes? It’s a 30 minute video and dude is 3 minutes into the intro of unc flashbacks of them beating us and talking hella sh man. Bruh they are confident and I don’t know why
 
Dwinstitles said:
I’m watching a YT video of this tar heel dude talking sh about hurricanes leave NC. Blah blah blah. Bruh do I got to get on these dudes? It’s a 30 minute video and dude is 3 minutes into the intro of unc flashbacks of them beating us and talking hella sh man. Bruh they are confident and I don’t know why
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This is how I feel

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