Randy Shannon was an idiot.

Typical low IQ clown, Randy. Got the job because PC mama Shalala wanted to prove her PC stripes.
To think that Randy was selected over JJ's recommendation of Gary Patterson.. Who went on to excel at TCU... What could have been...
This program was truly dead because of self inflicted wounds.
 
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This is where I vehemently disagree. We were coming off the FIU brawl, pata’s murder and the meriweather/cooper shooting when Randy got hired, then Sean Taylor got killed in his own home within a year. The external perception of Miami was negative and led to guys like Major wright not even considering the canes and saying they needed to escape south Florida.

Randy wasn’t a good head coach, and outside of the 2008 class he was not a great recruiter, but that dude getting our APR at the same level as Duke, Stanford and military academies is a huge win in my book. I get that he fell short on wins and losses but he was a good dude. And he was the first person to tell players to avoid Nevin.

Sorry for being overly emotional but I’ll always defend Randy.

Randy was unqualified DEI hire by Donna Shalala...
 
He wasn’t a DEI hire, he was a budget hire. Randy made less to coach Miami than about a dozen players on our roster right now

... if so, why was Gary Patterson a finalist for that position?? I remember JJ being all fired up that Patterson was going to be offered only to be surprised by Randy hiring... ineptitude and PC was more the reason
 
This is where I vehemently disagree. We were coming off the FIU brawl, pata’s murder and the meriweather/cooper shooting when Randy got hired, then Sean Taylor got killed in his own home within a year. The external perception of Miami was negative and led to guys like Major wright not even considering the canes and saying they needed to escape south Florida.

Randy wasn’t a good head coach, and outside of the 2008 class he was not a great recruiter, but that dude getting our APR at the same level as Duke, Stanford and military academies is a huge win in my book. I get that he fell short on wins and losses but he was a good dude. And he was the first person to tell players to avoid Nevin.

Sorry for being overly emotional but I’ll always defend Randy.
No need to apologize I get what you’re saying

Randy/Golden/Manny all of them meant well imo. They also had a garbage admin backing them.

Like I said in another post if it had worked he would be a genius motivator

After the SMU game Mario’s tactics certainly didn’t have much support and that all did a 180
 
Yup this is dead *** possible as well. I just dont like people who back stab like that.....I get people make mistakes but when you keep them down thats an ugly look man. And I love Hester as a player, I dont think he lying cause he has no reason to
We are old enough to know there’s always 3 sides to every story
I always wondered why tf Hester wasn’t at DB. I was a youngin watching cfb casually in those days. Never understood it man, thought he could have been a top corner in college
 
Terrible look for Shannon and shame on Coker for allowing it.
To be completely honest...Coker was an absolute clown.

I believe 100% that he was the reason/beginning of a lot of hard years for Miami football fans.

Ive had the conversation before on here....but this dude had the world in his hands. Didn't even have to work to build what he had..and ****ed it all up royally.
 
Patterson required a buyout at TCU that Miami was unwilling to pay. They went Shannon on cost.
I usually default to the people that put people in spots

Rather the players it’s usually the coaches that recruited them and/or play them

With the coaches it’s the admin in place

Why I was pretty convinced things would never change unless we just had some dumb luck

The Richt retirement rolled over into the Temple buyout of Manny I just remember sitting there in silence thinking that was the end of the program

Probably why despite the way it ended, 2025 was my favorite season of Canes football
 
Coker, Shannon, Tranny & Golden should all be permanently removed from anything having to do with UM Football. All of them played significant roles in our 25 year demise. The common thread amongst them all was none of them were qualified to be head coaches at Miami. They were all instruments of administrations trying to take us down. That my friends are the cold hard facts.
 
With way too much ego and jealousy of players with actual talent. He favored blue collar hard workers like himself (Glenn cook) and I believe secretly loath the bigger names. This Devin Hester story confirms it.



That is unbelievably wasteful.

Could you imagine Malachi Toney be throttled down to bench for his accolades?
 
I really do hope the days of hiring first time head coaches are behind UM. This program is not the one where you will learn on the job. Coker, Shannon and Diaz were all bad hires.
 
Never heard that story before so depending upon your point of view
Having taken a minute to think on this, this could have simply been Randy putting him on the bench and making his reprove his worth and dedication - a demotion that might have lasted a quarter. But when Hester protested, Shannon took that as confirmation that he indeed had an inflated ego and then refused to play him.

RIdiculous. He didn’t even give Devin a chance.
 
love Hester — but he was not a great corner his junior year and we had a loaded secondary. There are plenty of reasons to be disappointed in Randy, but having Hester focused on returns is not one of them.
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Two things can be simultaneously true. Randy was not given the resources the program needed and years of neglect definitely did not help. But he was also a terrible ******* head coach and never should’ve been hired.
Not signing Lavonte David is one of the biggest failures in 21st century UM history right alongside Coker’s crumbling of a dynasty, and Manny’s loss to FIU.
 
To be completely honest...Coker was an absolute clown.

I believe 100% that he was the reason/beginning of a lot of hard years for Miami football fans.

Ive had the conversation before on here....but this dude had the world in his hands. Didn't even have to work to build what he had..and ****ed it all up royally.
he gets glossed over ALOT on this board...for us that been around, he was the catalyst for the downfall...
 
To be completely honest...Coker was an absolute clown.

I believe 100% that he was the reason/beginning of a lot of hard years for Miami football fans.

Ive had the conversation before on here....but this dude had the world in his hands. Didn't even have to work to build what he had..and ****ed it all up royally.
You only need to be 25% honest with that on Uncle Slappy.
 
he gets glossed over ALOT on this board...for us that been around, he was the catalyst for the downfall...
was he the sympton or a cause?

I'm thinking more a symptom...

It's obvious our Canes weren't a serious PROGRUM during Butch DAW GAWD's tenure.

It was only by His Most Holy Greatness that our Canes achieved the heights they did under his divine guidance and will.

If BDG were given half of Mario's resources, our Canes would have won every Natty, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Cup, Wimbeldon, and Hot Dog Eating Championship while he roamed the sidelines.

So let it be said, so let it be written.

To speak anything else is heresy.
 
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Crazy to think we did this twice with Randy and Manny.
Feels like two very different situations despite both being first-time HCs. Randy was way more sensible than Manny.

Randy was the first former player hired, and first HC who grew up in the state of Florida since the early 1970s, first HC with professional playing-experience since Lou Saban, and was from the Jimmy Johnson ‘coaching tree’ just like Butch Davis. His defenses were ranked top 10; 5 outta the past 6 seasons. He was a bridge to the distant past and the more recent, more successful past.

Unlike Randy, Manny had been fired from a high-profile job. That Texas stint was completely ignored when he was hired. We saw that side of Diaz in the losses to Notre Dame, Clemson, and Wisconsin (twice). That second Wisconsin loss is important, because it was the same staff in both games whilst the second team was much worse (13-1 compared to 8-5); yet, even with the extra familiarity—we lost by 25 more points than the previous year.

One of the reasons that happened is because Diaz is only good at game planning and adjustments at halftime; cannot adjust on the fly. Manny isn’t good at making guys better day by day thru practice. He cared about media perception thinking highly of him than actually being elite at his job.

Besides the on-field football aspects, he was awful at recruiting, the rhetoric, passion, and persuasion required, and the actual evaluations too which is even more important & harder to acquire. Can only give him credit for Greg Rousseau.

We were actually in a much better shape when Richt stepped down compared to when he took the job. Once Golden’s recruits left, the inaccuracies and inattentiveness of Diaz’s recruiting/development really showed itself in year 3 with that 35 to 3 loss to Wisconsin. For us to hire the DC presiding over that beatdown was insanity.

Diaz benefitted greatly from Golden’s and Dorito’s recruiting — Sheldrick Redwine, all three of the ‘16 LBs were committed before he took the job, as was Joe Jackson, Michael Jackson, Richard McIntosh, Kendrick Norton, Jaquan Johnson, Chad Thomas, Anthony Moten, Trent Harris, and Corn Elder — they left him real guys there. Richt also brought in an elite DLine coach that covered up some of Diaz’s flaws.

Coming off our best season in over a dozen years, 2017, Diaz didn’t sign one linebacker in the class of 2018. Then less than a year later we hired him to be our head coach lmao.

With hindsight, we now know that Manny’s neglectful recruiting and awful development created an enormous amount of problems — lack of toughness, poor attention to detail, lowered standards, etc — for Mack Brown and James Franklin as well who were both effectively fired within two years of Diaz leaving. At the time, Mack Brown’s falloff might have been easier prescribed to Muschamp leaving and old age.

Both weren’t right for the job, but Diaz was way worse of a choice imo.
 
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