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edge said:
Use whatever QB can win against Florida in a dogfight. That likely means the QB who will turn the ball over the least. Then give them equal reps in the next three games and ride with whoever played best in that stretch.
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Who will hurt us the least...sadly
 
k9cane said:
again, no horse in this derby, in Enos I trust

But Id like to think that whoever is named the starter, Enos will then tailor or tweak that particular system/game plan to the strengths of whoever is QB1 at that time. Perhaps these guys are having certain struggles as Enos wants to find out exactly how limited certain guys are at particular things. We all know that Tate, for instance, is much more comfortable playing out of the shotgun/spread look, rather than under center

Sometimes you have to find out just how limited your guys are to really craft your style of play moving forward
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THIS!

They are challenging them in different, adverse situations and finding out what is really there so they will know what to call and not call come gametime.

Enos will definitely hone it down to what the starter excels at and build from there as the season progresses.
 
SonsofSoul said:
Big issue I have with Tate I’d that he told that # 1 DT QB “not to swing and miss twice”, then rather than fight for the job at OSU, he turned tail and ran away. He pulled similar **** at Texas A&M where he ran his mouth at another recruit only not to show up there and went elsewhere. Big mouth on Tate. Hasn’t shown **** yet. We will see won’t we?
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Yes we will.
 
All I know is that DUKE had a 2-star QB go in the 1st round of the draft so we **** sho better make something happen out of three 4-star QB's!
 
CFDan said:
i feel that may be the case, but not confident at all. then again my feeling changes daily. f*ck as i typed that i feel like perry will win the job again

seriously though, the FSU comeback makes me feel like he's the man ultimately
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Perry has talent but misfire a lot and dont feel pressure Tate gives us the best chance to win
 
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OldhamA said:
QB is a position that you can't really play musical chairs with.

Pick a starter, but have him on a short leash. Keeps him and his backups pushing to improve if they know the job isn't decided.
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I can't remember the years, but Bobby Bowden had two interchangeable QB's, and as happens, one QB would be cold - not hitting receivers - he's swap in the other - who had a hot hand - and they won a lot of games with two QB's.

I don't buy the idea that you go with one - even when he's colder than a black hole - and just tough it out. I've seen more crap QB work over the last decade and a half - and still can't believe we don't have better QB's - current season to be determined.

****poor coaching selections, ****poor recruiting, and I hope that UM figured out that bargain basement football staffs suck bunghole.
 
JosiahBuzzy said:
Why are you certain Martell can handle the pressure of a big game? All the players has played big time football in high school. I cant respect Tate because he was talking all that trash, but as soon as Justin Field showed up he cut and ran instead of fighting.
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At the time he went though the portal, it was reported that OSU's new HC told him he didn't figure into their plans. Sounds like Fields was just handed to job and Martell choose to transfer. If accurate I don't blame him.
 
IcemanArcade said:
Because we seen Perry fold against Virginia, granted it was Richt’s play calling but still. He led a comeback against FSU I’ll give him that but an intense game against a rival shouldn’t be the only time you step up. As for Jarren he’s just as unproven as Tate. What makes me give Tate the slight edge over Jarren in terms of handling pressure is the Bishop Gorman vs St Thomas game in 2016, Tate took control of that huddle and game. Plus the fact that he’s grabbing concepts and coverages at a fast rate from a relatively new playbook and QB coach.
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Yet, he is inaccurate as a qb. If can not consistently be accurate we will lose. The reality we do not know Tate will do when the lights come on at the college level. Plus, no matter how well he knows the offense of can’t hit the receivers what difference does it make.
 
NorthEastCane said:
At the time he went though the portal, it was reported that OSU's new HC told him he didn't figure into their plans. Sounds like Fields was just handed to job and Martell choose to transfer. If accurate I don't blame him.
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Fields is a better QB. Fields is a potential first round pick. Day worked him everyday, if he is all that like some make him out to be why would OSU want to get rid of him. One reason: they he is not accurate. My thing is he ran his mouth then transferred out when Fields showed up. Not a good look. What about asking the coach to give me a fair shot through the spring and then make a decision whether to stay or go.

After last year, I refuse to support a qb who can run but not throw with accuracy consistently. If that describes Tate, then he is just a white version of Malik Rosier.
 
blackvern said:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/26732957/the-now-miami-tate-martell
Then Urban Meyer stepped down. Martell says he was told toward the end of the season he would be better off finding another school. Shortly after former No. 1 overall recruit Justin Fields announced he was transferring to Ohio State, Martell told the world he would transfer himself.

"The good thing that happened was that I was told, so I wasn't in a bad situation. So that's the only thing I can say that was good about the situation is I wasn't lied to."
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LMAO so we going with the dude who couldn’t beat out Justin Fields or we going with one of the two dudes who couldn’t beat out Malik Rosier

Either way you look at it we eating leftovers this year lmao

Still i believe all if our QBs has improved. Just beat the **** gator
 
JosiahBuzzy said:
Fields is a better QB. Fields is a potential first round pick. Day worked him everyday, if he is all that like some make him out to be why would OSU want to get rid of him. One reason: they he is not accurate. My thing is he ran his mouth then transferred out when Fields showed up. Not a good look. What about asking the coach to give me a fair shot through the spring and then make a decision whether to stay or go.

After last year, I refuse to support a qb who can run but not throw with accuracy consistently. If that describes Tate, then he is just a white version of Malik Rosier.
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That's not the point. He was point blank told he doesn't figure into their plans. He wasn't given a shot to compete against him. Some coaches just play favorites. Some coaches want to put their own stamp on the program rather than roll with the previous staffs choice. The incoming HC saw a chance to get Field and jettisoned Martell faster than you can blink.

I'm not saying Martell should be named the starter. He has to compete with the other. But I want my QB to be astute enough to recognize a rigged game when it's staring him in the face.

Also, as far as Fields being a sure fire first round pick, didn't he cut and run from GA after he couldn't beat out Frohm (sp) despite having a years head start. And don't believe the stories about GA surrounding his departure. There may have been some truth in it but he transmogrified that big time so that he wouldn't have to sit out a year.
 
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Poptimus said:
Coaches won’t be able to keep the race secret, once reps start going mainly to one guy you can bet in this social media day and age someone will leak who that is.
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To date, most of what has been made public are the one on one warm-up drills. If most of the "real" practise is in the IPF and it's closed to the media, how would anyone on the outside know where the reps are going? If it was leaked, it would have to be from someone on the inside. Manny could out them pretty easily.
 
JosiahBuzzy said:
Yet, he is inaccurate as a qb. If can not consistently be accurate we will lose. The reality we do not know Tate will do when the lights come on at the college level. Plus, no matter how well he knows the offense of can’t hit the receivers what difference does it make.
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You’re making it sound as if Tate Martell is Malik Rosier in terms of accuracy and that’s the problem. At Bishop gorman his career average in completions was 60%. In the 3 games he played with OSU (albeit washout games), he still averaged 82.1% with 269 yards and 2 TDs, in this past spring game he had 154 yards and 2 TDs going 6-10, in this last scrimmage although we don’t have the stats, we know all QBs combined for 71% and the two interceptions thrown weren’t committed by Martell. Nothing aside from a 10 sec clip and reporters watching 1 v 1 for a few mins suggest that his accuracy has been awful, anything they say you guys take it and run with it, Tate has been inconsistent with his mechanics but he’s not awful in terms of accuracy, if Martell were awful he would’ve been discredited from the race a long time ago.
 
TruCane81 said:
Doesn’t make sense to waste first team reps on Perry if he was predetermined by the staff to have no shot.

Why not make the race between just Martell and Williams. If you want three competing, why not Matocha instead of Perry?

Who benefits from wasting reps on a lame duck quarterback when time is of the essence?
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Its not wasting reps if he showed he was way ahead of the other two. He could earn conceivably earn the starting spot with an unbelievable camp. Problem is that I think he has to overcome the extremely bad impression he gave Manny last year. Maybe you think Manny had a favorable impression of Perry when he left? How would you feel if your defense was leaving its guts on the field game after game, while the offense couldn't muster 17 points and you saw the qb wasnt taking the job seriously? Its one thing if the offense is struggling but you see the QB is doing everything he can to make sure prepared on gameday. Sure you can point fingers at the OC, but then you see both your QBs are playing grabass (one of them literally). There were several articles by local reporters that came out stating that neither Perry nor Williams was spending time in the film room until Martell got there so this was going on as late as January this year.

There is an old saying, "Forgive but don't forget." I think Manny is like most rational people and is willing to forgive Perry if he shows he is the best qb, but if no one separates themselves, he won't forget how he acted when he had the keys to the kingdom and its going to hurt him in a tiebreaker scenario.

Do I know this is how Manny feels? No, I don't. I'm not an insider. It's just my opinion based on rational people behave.
 
Well, if I remember, the slate was supposedly wiped clean and we have an all out QB compeitition this preseason.

Going into the season, I liked JW the best going in, but from what I understand he hasn't pulled away from the pack. He *might* be at the front but the other two are nipping at his heels.

We'll see. Won't be too much longer.
 
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