Qb update days before a starter is decided

[canes614]

When it’s 11 vs 11 it’s been Tate more than the Jarren and Kosi

if Tate doesn't start he can could definitely be our change up QB until it's settled.....I hope the coaches take their time with this move....wouldn't be worried about leadership "right now" the players seem to like all three...if one of them fold in the process imo he wasn't ready to take that next step anyway.....when the competition is close to a big game only the strong survive.....

 

[marshallrc13]

Let's pick one and announce it publicly before UF. We need to give one of these 3 some confidence by announcing and give them all the reps between now and UF. Can't keep babying these guys or be scared if one transfers off. If one or two guys decide to transfer, then so be it and they weren't cut out to be a Miami Hurricane.

Or maybe just let the 3 QBs know who the starter is for their confidence but don't tell anyone outside of the program.

 

[DBC]

Absolutely. This ain’t over on the 24th

We need ONE QB to take the first team snaps in preparation for UF.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

Of course they would want him to stay, but everyone knows that wasn't happening. How many highly rated QBs stick around after getting beat out by an underclassmen? Obviously Tate knew he wasn't beating out Fields, otherwise he would have stayed at OSU.

Jarren almost did transfer out and he probably will once Tate actually beats him out.

Listen to what your saying. A guy going into year 3 of a program is afraid he can't beat out a freshman transfer, so he leaves. You basically said he's afraid to compete and came to Miami because we don't have good QBs (I'm paraphrasing).

I think Jarren, and N'kosi have better arm talent. Even if Martell would win the job, I think that #2 guy will take the job at some point in the future because their ceiling is higher. Once that person masters the other areas of being a QB, the sky is the limit. Jarren has 4 years of eligibility and N'kosi has 3. The talent is too good. Once they fully develop, they both will be very good - great QBs.

The great thing is that Martell has forced everyone to get better. Our team should see much better QB play regardless of who wins the job and that includes N'kosi. I've not written him off like a lot of the fanbase has who looks at last year as his ceiling and ready to move on to someone else. Not me.

We'll see who wins the job and then we roll on 8/24. GO CANES!!!!

 

[Number1CanesFan]

Getting beat out by the number 1 DT in the nation does not mean you aren't a stud in big boy football. It also probably means he is still better than the 2 guys that got beat out by Malik Rosier.

If you're referring to Martell, what has he done in college for you to say he's better than anyone? Don't give this 1 game against Maryland. No body of work.

 

[lurk]

if Tate doesn't start he can could definitely be our change up QB until it's settled.....I hope the coaches take their time with this move....wouldn't be worried about leadership "right now" the players seem to like all three...if one of them fold in the process imo he wasn't ready to take that next step anyway.....when the competition is close to a big game only the strong survive.....

Tate film looks pretty darn good:

Tate from 2nd quarter+ vs Rutgers

 

[kruker]

If you're referring to Martell, what has he done in college for you to say he's better than anyone? Don't give this 1 game against Maryland. No body of work.

You're right, not a ton of work. But in those three games--the fact you're saying one against a team he didn't play against makes it clear you haven't even watched the tape-- he never looked as lost as the dude that went 6-24 against Pitt.

If you want to say you havent seen enough from Tate, fine. But then let's be honest with what we did see from Perry. It was, at best, mediocre. How you feel confident seeing "very good' or "great" there once he develops is beyond me. Dude surely didn't show it last year with his body of work.

 

[Poptimus]

To date, most of what has been made public are the one on one warm-up drills. If most of the "real" practise is in the IPF and it's closed to the media, how would anyone on the outside know where the reps are going? If it was leaked, it would have to be from someone on the inside. Manny could out them pretty easily.

I’m saying the leak will come from within. One of the QBs will likely let it be known via social media once they realize they’re out of the running. Probably via a cryptic post or some ****. Wouldn’t shock me at all.

 

[Number1CanesFan]

You're right, not a ton of work. But in those three games--the fact you're saying one against a team he didn't play against makes it clear you haven't even watched the tape-- he never looked as lost as the dude that went 6-24 against Pitt.

If you want to say you havent seen enough from Tate, fine. But then let's be honest with what we did see from Perry. It was, at best, mediocre. How you feel confident seeing "very good' or "great" there once he develops is beyond me. Dude surely didn't show it last year with his body of work.

Why do think every 1st year starter has to hit a homerun for the season or they're a complete failure? Throw any Frosh or Rsh Frosh in any position and they'll make a bunch of mistakes. Perry made a lot of mistakes on and off the field, but he made some elite throws as well. If Perry had not played at all, sat and developed in the program, then became a starter his Rsh Junior year you'd be saying something completely different. The same thing could have happened to Jarren. Had he played last year, he probably makes a ton of mistakes as well. Then you'll say he was trash. Nothing more to see. Let's move on.

You can't judge the future of a young talented QB especially in the system we had. Let them grow. Let them develop. At the end of their college career, then you can judge what they did and who they are as a QB.

 

[The Franchise]

You’re making it sound as if Tate Martell is Malik Rosier in terms of accuracy and that’s the problem. At Bishop gorman his career average in completions was 60%. In the 3 games he played with OSU (albeit washout games), he still averaged 82.1% with 269 yards and 2 TDs, in this past spring game he had 154 yards and 2 TDs going 6-10, in this last scrimmage although we don’t have the stats, we know all QBs combined for 71% and the two interceptions thrown weren’t committed by Martell. Nothing aside from a 10 sec clip and reporters watching 1 v 1 for a few mins suggest that his accuracy has been awful, anything they say you guys take it and run with it, Tate has been inconsistent with his mechanics but he’s not awful in terms of accuracy, if Martell were awful he would’ve been discredited from the race a long time ago.

Nice facts. Some of these dudes have a weird hatred of Tate for some unknown reason. They are now trying to equate him to Malik just because they’re both short.

And one of the goofballs is railing against Tate’s inaccuracy and pumping up Fields. Didn’t Fields post some horrible accuracy numbers in the Ohio Taint spring game? UbaGA wouldn’t even let him throw the ball when they put him in last year.

 

[Blawrencefl]

Barry Jackson doesn’t know **** about the WB position. It’s going to be Martell because Manny doesn’t trust the other two. Our OL won’t face a DL as good as ours all year. Put Martell in the shotgun, Cam and next to him, KJ, JT, and Brevin out wide, Mallory at TE and let’s ******* roll.

 

[kruker]

Why do think every 1st year starter has to hit a homerun for the season or they're a complete failure? Throw any Frosh or Rsh Frosh in any position and they'll make a bunch of mistakes. Perry made a lot of mistakes on and off the field, but he made some elite throws as well. If Perry had not played at all, sat and developed in the program, then became a starter his Rsh Junior year you'd be saying something completely different. The same thing could have happened to Jarren. Had he played last year, he probably makes a ton of mistakes as well. Then you'll say he was trash. Nothing more to see. Let's move on.

You can't judge the future of a young talented QB especially in the system we had. Let them grow. Let them develop. At the end of their college career, then you can judge what they did and who they are as a QB.

They don't have to hit a homerun. But go back to my post about the completion percentage. What Kosi did last year at 50% is not something good QBs in college have done, regardless of whether they were a freshman or not, regardless of whether they were in an air raid system or not.

We've got one example, Allen who improved under Enos--so that's good, that breaks the tren. Complain all you want about Richt's system, I sure have, but guys like Greyson Lambert or a freshman in Aaron Murray were 60% guys in it playing in the SEC. So, yea, I think you can make some judgements on a guy who threw almost 200 times and was only completing 50% of his passes for mediocre yardage.

I hope I'm wrong and if he's the guy he's got my full support, but don't try and say we can't tell anything yet. We've seen Kosi under live fire and it wasn't acceptable and looked worse than the small body of work we've seen (well not you) from Martell.

 

[MizCane]

I don't think Manny should name the starter until the start of the first game (to the public at least) to help throw UF off

I disagree. I think it should be named by the 19th at the latest so that QB knows and gets the most reps and gets his confidence/reps with the first team WR etc.
Personally think they would be doing whoever the QB is a disservice to not name until the day before.

 

[kruker]

I disagree. I think it should be named by the 19th at the latest so that QB knows and gets the most reps and gets his confidence/reps with the first team WR etc.
Personally think they would be doing whoever the QB is a disservice to not name until the day before.

To the public is the key part there. He's not saying to not declare a winner internally. You've got to do that well before the 24th

 

[Number1CanesFan]

They don't have to hit a homerun. But go back to my post about the completion percentage. What Kosi did last year at 50% is not something good QBs in college have done, regardless of whether they were a freshman or not, regardless of whether they were in an air raid system or not.

We've got one example, Allen who improved under Enos--so that's good, that breaks the tren. Complain all you want about Richt's system, I sure have, but guys like Greyson Lambert or a freshman in Aaron Murray were 60% guys in it playing in the SEC. So, yea, I think you can make some judgements on a guy who threw almost 200 times and was only completing 50% of his passes for mediocre yardage.

I hope I'm wrong and if he's the guy he's got my full support, but don't try and say we can't tell anything yet. We've seen Kosi under live fire and it wasn't acceptable and looked worse than the small body of work we've seen (well not you) from Martell.

I hear ya. If N'kosi completed just 2 more passes per game, he's a 60% passer. That doesn't even include all the drops last year. So, I think it's doable to be a 65% passer if he won the job.

I just think the best is yet to come for all 3 of our QBs. Unfortunately, at least 1 will transfer and maybe 2.

 

[mr.h]

The days aren’t going by fast enough.

 

[Tinman64]

Its perry or tate no way does manny give williams his first start against fla on such a big stage

 

[CFDan]

Its perry or tate no way does manny give williams his first start against fla on such a big stage

nah, disagree. besides, why martell and not williams? because tate's played against maryland and rutgers? please. if williams shows in practice that he grasps the offense and makes good plays, these coaches will play him. happens all over the country, it can happen here.

 

[brock]

nah, disagree. besides, why martell and not williams? because tate's played against maryland and rutgers? please. if williams shows in practice that he grasps the offense and makes good plays, these coaches will play him. happens all over the country, it can happen here.

I agree, if Williams shows he can play in practice, start him. All experience ain’t good experience so that’s irrelevant to me really

 

[561Cane]

For all we know Diaz and Enos could have their starting QB already. Funny how we, as fans, assume decisions have or possibly not have been made.

Let’s enjoy the ride! 2019 is all new beginnings. #TNM!!