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Joe Haden ran a 4.6, hasn't stopped him from being a shutdown corner in the NFL. Some guys put up great numbers and can't play football for ****. Some guys put up **** numbers but play football great. When you spend half your time on the field back pedaling, I'm not sure how fast you ran a forty or how many reps you did on the bench matter that much.
If Gunter makes it in the NFL it will be because he studies the game, understands situations, anticipates plays and has hips to get in and out of breaks quickly. Joe Haden is great at all those things, so he's an all pro football player. Demarcus Van Dyke is not, so he is consistently in and out of work on practice squads.
The only issue is that Gunter is not as talented as either of the two you named... DVD rarely allowed a catch on him with great speed... His senior year trumps Gunter's... Joe Haden was a straight up beast... Gunter was decent...
Ahhhhh...I liked DVD and all but if he had not run that 4.28 at the combine (or whatever it was) and ran a 4.69 instead, he would not have gotten drafted AT ALL. He was solid at best his last year here. Now I don't know if Gunter is going to get drafted, but I think their careers here were about even IMO.
Don't get me wrong DVD wasn't on Haden's level and his speed was a great attribute. However he was still better than Gunter. The comparison of DVD and Haden in regards to Gunter is a bad example... He wasn't on either talent..
Reading comprehension is terrible now a days. I wasn't comparing Gunter to either of them at all. I was showing two ends of a spectrum. It was a indictment of the combine and those people who put too much stock in numbers. Nowhere did I say that Gunter was good, bad or somewhere in the middle. The point was, if a guy can play, his combine numbers won't matter. If a guy can't play, his combine numbers won't matter.
Whether Gunter ran a 4.3 or a 4.7, it only affects his draft position, it's how good he is at all the other things that will determine whether he makes it in the NFL or not. Haden is great at those other things, DVD is not. No where have I said or implied anything about where Gunter fits into that.