Pride

[Trafficante]

First off, apologies to you @DMoney, to you @LuCane, & to you @RVACane for this ill chit imma bout to spit.

So I just watched the NYJ win a game. Their fans don’t understand why; but, The Jets have been trying to win for the past several weeks, to the point, players openly complained about Greg Williams putting them in an awful position against Oakland two weeks ago. Frank Gore said he refused to go out winless. Frank Gore......

Frank Gore is a true Cane, cut from the old school where nothing was handed to you, the best rose to the top, and if u weren’t the best, you were forced to strive to be the best. That was Canes football. What I see now, have been seeing, is NOT Canes football. All the excuses, lies, cronyism, favoritism....that’s not how we’re built.

BUT, I can live w/ a **** poor admin apathetic to our history, that’s been that way since I followed this team as a young kid. What I can’t tolerate is this pu$$y filled mantra that’s seeping into this fan base. I’m literally seeing ppl trying to reason why we should’ve opted out of an opportunity to add another win, and put some sort of hardware in our trophy case, b/c they are afraid of a L. I’m literally seeing fans using other programs as a template as to y we should do as they do.

WHO TF ARE U MOFOS??? We are NOT PSU. We are NOT Minnesota. We are NOT San Diego State. We are not Fckin FSDOOKIE. We are NOT UCLA! We are The Mutha Fckin U! We didn’t become The U by doing as the others do, we did it our way, taking lumps, bumps, bruises, ridicule and all! Shame on u toilet sitting mofos! Do not let the chit show lull u to sleep, b/c if u buy in to every punk *** excuse as to why our 4 star players can’t compete w/ 3 star players in the mutha fckin Corstal, then you will allow this program to sink beyond rebuild. We will become Pitt, Syracuse, and all them 1950 black & white TV schools that ain’t chit today.

To say a bowl game is meaningless is dumb af, not after the bull chit we endured the last two yrs. We can’t hide behind a fluke seasons; either we have a staff that’s about that life, or we’re on the search again. The fans are the heartbeat of this program; not the BOT, not the AD. We are. If they feel comfortable, nothing will change...and right now, u got them bytches feeling real cozy by a fire place right now. Maybe u, too, feel it’s E before W, and ****, we can’t even get the E right under Frenk!

You know why Michigan moved on from Hoke? B/c the fans & student body made huge noise that a lazy admin had no other choice but to move. For the Manny supporters; if u think he’s the man, then he can start by winning a bowl game. I’m glad we’re playing in this bowl; I like seeing my team w/ an opportunity. Miami still means something to me; and **** naw; I’m never going to let them off the hook on some bull chit excuse that the team gave up b/c they were exhausted. Every mutha fckin program is exhausted, including to the top 6 in the CFP! LOOK AT THE NYJ! They had zero to play for, EXCEPT their pride!

If Manny & his staph can’t get players to buy in to playing for each other & that logo on their helmet, which is iconic, then move him the fck on. But at no time, should we ever think about opting out of chit when we got too much work to do! STOP COMPARING US TO FCK BOY SCHOOLS & HOW THEY MOVE!

Finally; stop complaining about the same teams being dominant in CFB. It’s ALWAYS been a handful of teams dominant, and guess what? We were that team for 20+ yrs! We became that team by knocking off those teams! Bama wasn’t always this team; Bama sucked for almost 20 yrs!! But they did something about it. Clemson wasn’t always this team; they sucked for 30 yrs; but they did something about it. UGA did something about it. Texas A&M did something about it. Florida did something about it.

The question is, will we? If not, don’t blame CFB or whine about that chit, don’t blame bags; blame those cutting the checks at The Hecht.

Man; ball up!

It's over my G. The lifeblood for this program is not fans, alumni, or even booster support. It's conference affiliation. Thats the fundamental difference between this program, and others that currently dominate the sport. So the time to appeal for more fan support was when this program was winning meaningful games, not when it's mired in mediocrity. As much as the people on this forum believe they are more important than they actually are, no amount of kicking & screaming will change that reality. Also, as I've tried to tell you numerous times before back then because the disparity between the highest spending and lowest spending programs was not as stark as it is today, this university could afford to be Independent. If this program tried to be Independent today, it would be relegated to G5 status within a yr or two.

The Jets have to play for pride, because they're professionals. If they don't they'll be out of a job soon.

 

[SinisterCane]

In boxing the 1st time a boxers quits its more likely they’ll quit again when pressed into a corner from adversity. A lot of players quit on Manny last year and against UNC this year.

As long a Manny is the HC we’re gonna fold as soon as we get pressed into that boxing corner

 

[P-Tizzle]

Who is this administration that you speak of, and what are your examples that they are apathetic to football? Can you name a single one that isn't Blake James or Julio Frenk?

Have you met ANYONE that is actually a University administrator?

I cannot say this enough. The Trustees and many employees are much, much bigger fans than any of you who have only rooted for the football team. These people do things for the University because they love it, and they don't cry and ***** and pitch a fit every time we lose.

That is how you support a team.

Y'all don't seem to realize that a small, private school is not spending $8 million a year on a head football coach.

I had a vision that you would comment on this thread.

 

[bubbie72]

 

[ALLoverCANE]

I’ll give u the Cliff notes:

Stop acting like a bytch caking up for a team that makes excuses for poor performances.

Stop acting like a bytch in wanting to opt out of a bowl game, and using other bytch *** schools as examples.

Stop accepting mediocrity.

Now if that’s not you, then u Gucci. If u fall in to that bytchness that’s been toted around here, then go root for one of them opt out schools. They have many fans as such.

Ok cool. I'm going to do w/e the **** I want and there's 0% chance some anonymous keyboard warrior on a message board is going to have any impact on that.

That being said, I'm glad we're playing in a bowl game. I like football and I like the Canes, and the more of it, the better. There are >350 days a year without Canes football, so I enjoy the days that they do play.

 

[Rellyrell]

Who is this administration that you speak of, and what are your examples that they are apathetic to football? Can you name a single one that isn't Blake James or Julio Frenk?

Have you met ANYONE that is actually a University administrator?

I cannot say this enough. The Trustees and many employees are much, much bigger fans than any of you who have only rooted for the football team. These people do things for the University because they love it, and they don't cry and ***** and pitch a fit every time we lose.

That is how you support a team.

Y'all don't seem to realize that a small, private school is not spending $8 million a year on a head football coach.

I know u’re an alum, and kudos to u. U make that known as often as u possibly can. Me? I’m not an alum, but I’ve been around this program intimately. I have friends, I get PMs & text msgs. When u have a best friend currently in the law program, when u’ve rubbed shoulders w/ frat brothers who played on the team during the height of greatness, when u’re in the line of work I’m in, u make friends.

But, who am I to make a statement like that, right? See the thing is, my man; u don’t need to be around or handshake any BOT member directly for this chit anymore. Just go to Twitter; ****, prominent BOT members put themselves on blast about where their minds are regarding the program. Not every BOT member feels the same way; but to say there’s not an apathetic feel to how things are handled & justified is being disingenuous at best.

Now; to your point about paying $8m/yr for a coach. First off; how many programs r paying $8m for a coach?? And what does that have to do w/ fans trying to justify why we should opt out a bowl game? But just for chit & giggles; did we not pony up $7m to get Manny here?

Anyways, anyways, we don’t need an $8m coach to not be embarrassed in historic fashion.

 

[ChoadCane]

I know u’re an alum, and kudos to u. U make that known as often as u possibly can. Me? I’m not an alum, but I’ve been around this program intimately. I have friends, I get PMs & text msgs. When u have a best friend currently in the law program, when u’ve rubbed shoulders w/ frat brothers who played on the team during the height of greatness, when u’re in the line of work I’m in, u make friends.

But, who am I to make a statement like that, right? See the thing is, my man; u don’t need to be around or handshake any BOT member directly for this chit anymore. Just go to Twitter; ****, prominent BOT members put themselves on blast about where their minds are regarding the program. Not every BOT member feels the same way; but to say there’s not an apathetic feel to how things are handled & justified is being disingenuous at best.

Now; to your point about paying $8m/yr for a coach. First off; how many programs r paying $8m for a coach?? And what does that have to do w/ fans trying to justify why we should opt out a bowl game? But just for chit & giggles; did we not pony up $7m to get Manny here?

Anyways, anyways, we don’t need an $8m coach to not be embarrassed in historic fashion.

Here is a guideline for you depressed, sad *** mother****ers. @Rellyrell has his doubts about the future. He's not an idiot. And yet, somehow, he still wants us to win and can remain mostly positive DESPITE questioning the direction of the program. You can do both. Be like @Rellyrell

 

[Rellyrell]

Ok cool. I'm going to do w/e the **** I want and there's 0% chance some anonymous keyboard warrior on a message board is going to have any impact on that.

That being said, I'm glad we're playing in a bowl game. I like football and I like the Canes, and the more of it, the better. There are >350 days a year without Canes football, so I enjoy the days that they do play.

And u should do whatever the **** u want. If u came in here to express that, then good for u. And trust when I tell u, I’m far from a keyboard warrior. Maybe one day when this pandemic is over & I’m back in town, we could crack open a beer & u can see how I get down. I don’t start many threads, never have, but the apathy shown by guys that got the same blood flow as me had me annoyed af, b/c I know how my brothers get down.

Anyways, glad u r happy to see us play & hopefully we carry some momentum into next season.

 

[Go Canes!!]

I know u’re an alum, and kudos to u. U make that known as often as u possibly can. Me? I’m not an alum, but I’ve been around this program intimately. I have friends, I get PMs & text msgs. When u have a best friend currently in the law program, when u’ve rubbed shoulders w/ frat brothers who played on the team during the height of greatness, when u’re in the line of work I’m in, u make friends.

But, who am I to make a statement like that, right? See the thing is, my man; u don’t need to be around or handshake any BOT member directly for this chit anymore. Just go to Twitter; ****, prominent BOT members put themselves on blast about where their minds are regarding the program. Not every BOT member feels the same way; but to say there’s not an apathetic feel to how things are handled & justified is being disingenuous at best.

Now; to your point about paying $8m/yr for a coach. First off; how many programs r paying $8m for a coach?? And what does that have to do w/ fans trying to justify why we should opt out a bowl game? But just for chit & giggles; did we not pony up $7m to get Manny here?

Anyways, anyways, we don’t need an $8m coach to not be embarrassed in historic fashion.

No se don’t pay a coach $8 million a year for a coach but who is everyone compared to on here 200 times a day?

Saban and Dabo

 

[Rellyrell]

No se don’t pay a coach $8 million a year for a coach but who is everyone compared to on here 200 times a day?

But those guys didn’t even start off like that. We hit the fast fwd button on these successful coaches w/o realizing they had to work to get that dough. And it became justified b/c of how much revenue they brought into the program.

 

[Rellyrell]

It's over my G. The lifeblood for this program is not fans, alumni, or even booster support. It's conference affiliation. Thats the fundamental difference between this program, and others that currently dominate the sport. So the time to appeal for more fan support was when this program was winning meaningful games, not when it's mired in mediocrity. As much as the people on this forum believe they are more important than they actually are, no amount of kicking & screaming will change the reality of the situation. Also, as I've tried to tell you numerous times before back then because the disparity between the highest spending and lowest spending programs were not as stark as it is today, this university could afford to be Independent. If this program tried to be Independent today, it would be relegated to G5 status within a yr or two.

The Jets have to play for pride, because they're professionals. If they don't they'll be out of a job soon.

Come on my guy; if it was over, we still wouldn’t be putting together the classes we’ve been pulling, bro.

We just need some leadership w these boys. There’s still a lot of great coaches out there that would love to be here, IF Manny don’t work out. ****, Mullen wanted to come here. Just gotta get our out our ***, again, IF Manny don’t work out.

But I can’t say it’s over; if it’s over, then we all need to move on & just root for another team. Kids still come here; we have the ingredients to be a consistent fixture in the ACCCG, just gotta put it together.

 

[Rellyrell]

In boxing the 1st time a boxers quits its more likely they’ll quit again when pressed into a corner from adversity. A lot of players quit on Manny last year and against UNC this year.

As long a Manny is the HC we’re gonna fold as soon as we get pressed into that boxing corner

That’s a great analogy, boss. No lie.

 

[htownkidd]

I like it.

 

[Angry Ibis]

But those guys didn’t even start off like that. We hit the fast fwd button on these successful coaches w/o realizing they had to work to get that dough. And it became justified b/c of how much revenue they brought into the program.

There’s another part of pride. As much as pride isn’t wanting the tap out of a bowl game, it’s also not incessant whining about the same ******* schtick over and over...

You bring the reasonable heat... others driveling *****...

To the point of the quoting, many are fast forwarding from a 2nd year coach to Dabo and Saban and everyone in between with zero intelligent solutions ... Manny may never be the answer to anything, but it’s better if he is than flipping coaches every 3-5 years....

 

[Brains]

It's not over

 

[TOcane]

If you aren't for having another game to watch your team play...

 

[Rellyrell]

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With you 110% except that UMich reference (they're still terrible) and that black and white reference (sadly, we are already there). Manny ain't it... surprisingly his dad is a cutthroat OG but Manny himself grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and is a participation-trophy-handing-out-soccer-mom with a lisp and a clipboard, who some how, someway, became the head of our storied organization. But he ain't it... he'll never be it. In the words of Tony Montana: "that's guy's soft."

Great post OP.

GO CANES!!!

I don’t think we’re “quite” there, bro. Those black & white programs aren’t pulling in the classes we are. What we’ve done is go a very bad route since 2000.

1. Hiring Larry Coker. Hindsight is 20/20 w/ this one b/c we know the end result, but the player’s advocated for it, and he was apart of a staff that rebuilt us from the ashes. However, it became pretty clear we were sliding under his watch after the magical season.

2. Hiring Randy Shannon. This was a bad hire from the jump:
-He was on a failed regime
-He had no coaching experience prior to
-The program became an utter mess (see FIU brawl), and Randy was apart of that utter mess. The results showed as much

3. Al Golden. He had the gift of gab, a binder, articulate, and was personable. On surface, he looked like a great hire; however, he should’ve never been hired b/c his record at the G5 level didn't justify the hire.

4. Mark Richt. Mark rejected us while in his prime. Richt was fired from UGA for a long string of under performances by an uber talented team, and he mentioned he wanted to retire. Probably not the best idea to hire a coach who’s both fired & didn’t want coach anymore. But, AD made an offer he couldn’t refuse & why not?

5. Manny Diaz. See Randy Shannon

Our program is a mess b/c we’ve made 5 bad hires in a row; that’s how u get glimpse of hope w/o the results. But! The silver lining is that despite the 5 bad hires, our brand is still strong enough to get guys that are blue chips (per their rankings) to come here. We are not pulling in the #36 class w/ consistency; we’re typically in the #10 - 15 range. That’s y we truly are a coach away. We’ve passed on some great options to settle for.....well, u know.

 

[Rellyrell]

I want to party with this guy right here!

Why couldn't you have written this a few weeks ago so I could have sent it out with my Christmas cards?

We can make that party happen my brotha. I’m a free man now. Lol.

 

[SinisterCane]

I know u’re an alum, and kudos to u. U make that known as often as u possibly can. Me? I’m not an alum, but I’ve been around this program intimately. I have friends, I get PMs & text msgs. When u have a best friend currently in the law program, when u’ve rubbed shoulders w/ frat brothers who played on the team during the height of greatness, when u’re in the line of work I’m in, u make friends.

But, who am I to make a statement like that, right? See the thing is, my man; u don’t need to be around or handshake any BOT member directly for this chit anymore. Just go to Twitter; ****, prominent BOT members put themselves on blast about where their minds are regarding the program. Not every BOT member feels the same way; but to say there’s not an apathetic feel to how things are handled & justified is being disingenuous at best.

Now; to your point about paying $8m/yr for a coach. First off; how many programs r paying $8m for a coach?? And what does that have to do w/ fans trying to justify why we should opt out a bowl game? But just for chit & giggles; did we not pony up $7m to get Manny here?

Anyways, anyways, we don’t need an $8m coach to not be embarrassed in historic fashion.

Who was the BOT on Twitter talking’ bout “E before the W”

 

[Rellyrell]

Who was the BOT on Twitter talking’ bout “E before the W”

Mawkus; Mawkus Lemonade! (Marcus Lemonis) lol.