Prediction

[miamimike]

Any staff predictions?

Is John Shoop available?

I enjoy most of your shtick . But just stop with this ****. What we have all been thru as canes fans for Christ sake can you just be happy or at least not a **** for a few weeks? Can the fan base unite over this for a while?

 

[The Franchise]

Has any other coach won at UNC in just three years or did they have longer?

4 years.

you do realize they were ready to roll in year 3 when all the crap hit
they were loaded

All the crap caused by the bag man that Butch hired?

There's always some qualifier with the cult. He was going to win 66 NCs at UM but he left before he could show his genius. He was about to blow up at UNC, but the school fcked him over.

so he had a bag man pay players that were there before he got there?
most of the suspensions were upper classmen

butch bashers hate facts

and where did I say Butch was my choice, just trumping your dumb arguments

Go study the case, braniac. All the guys suspended were guys he recruited and who Blake got involved with agents. They were suspended for taking gifts and partying with an agent. The academic scandal was something separate.

 

[edge]

If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

That's all some of us wanted

This logic is curious to me. It seems some want to feel better about hiring Butch as long as bigger fish were first contacted. So let's say Kelly and Mullen both talked but respectfully declined. Does that mean if Butch goes 6 and 5 in his second year that record is easier to swallow? I do not think so. Either way we are going to be upset and extremely down about the program at that point. Knowing that Kelly and Mullen turned us down may actually make us feel worse at that time.

FWIW I do not see that happening though.

 

[fincane]

Has any other coach won at UNC in just three years or did they have longer?

4 years.

you do realize they were ready to roll in year 3 when all the crap hit
they were loaded

All the crap caused by the bag man that Butch hired?

There's always some qualifier with the cult. He was going to win 66 NCs at UM but he left before he could show his genius. He was about to blow up at UNC, but the school fcked him over.

so he had a bag man pay players that were there before he got there?
most of the suspensions were upper classmen

butch bashers hate facts

and where did I say Butch was my choice, just trumping your dumb arguments

Marvin Austin committed to UNC in February of 2007. Butch was hired November of 2006. Who was Marvin Austin's main recruiter? John Blake. John Blake was pushing kids towards an agency. Marvin Austin was one of them. You're talking about facts when you have none.

 

[Canecanecane]

Lets go canes! #BBB

 

[Dwinstitles]

Its over quot bytching and enjoy the ride

 

[The Franchise]

I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

NONE have the recruiting base Butch will have.

Not even USC?

Come on son...I'm with you on doing due diligence on everybody outside of Butch, but you can't possibly be talking about SoCal talent compared to SoFla. There's no other area in the country like it. NOWHERE.

Go look up USC's recruiting class rankings over the last 15 years and compare them to UM's, son. Then, report back to me with the results.

 

[nickster]

Hey I'm the same age and could run circles around you. Do you have a problem with an older, mature, and wise individual? I'm just laughing at your immaturity because life is great starting at 60. Most of our great Presidents have been betweeen 60-70.

 

[Classic]

64 year old Butch vs Mark Richt or Mullen...lol

While I would have been pleased with either, Richt was the king of "almost." Was worried he'd do the same here.

 

[The Franchise]

Any staff predictions?

Is John Shoop available?

I enjoy most of your shtick . But just stop with this ****. What we have all been thru as canes fans for Christ sake can you just be happy or at least not a **** for a few weeks? Can the fan base unite over this for a while?

Thanks for that motivational speech, Matt Foley. Consider me reformed.

 

[edge]

I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

NONE have the recruiting base Butch will have.

Not even USC?

Come on son...I'm with you on doing due diligence on everybody outside of Butch, but you can't possibly be talking about SoCal talent compared to SoFla. There's no other area in the country like it. NOWHERE.

Go look up USC's recruiting class rankings over the last 15 years and compare them to UM's, son. Then, report back to me with the results.

***** recruiting classes. We got the NFL talent down here dawg.

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[TallyCane]

9-3 next year

 

[Classic]

64 year old Butch vs Mark Richt or Mullen...lol

While I would have been pleased with either, Richt was the king of "almost." Was worried he'd do the same here.

I'm also enjoying the pipe dream of Richt returning under Davis since he wants to "call plays and coach QBs."

 

[fincane]

I guess we're supposed to believe Butch Davis is a better coach and a better fit at his old school than John Robinson, Johnny Majors and Mike Riley with Petrino still pending along with being on par with Bill Snyder. He is supposed to be the exception to the rule in this case.

NONE have the recruiting base Butch will have.

Not even USC?

Come on son...I'm with you on doing due diligence on everybody outside of Butch, but you can't possibly be talking about SoCal talent compared to SoFla. There's no other area in the country like it. NOWHERE.

USC has found a way to win multiple titles on the backs of those SoCal kids since Butch's time at UM and before it as well. We can add that USC when at its peak controls the whole state along with being a national brand that can get kids from all over. Are you saying that John Robinson didn't have the access to the quantity and quality of talent that Butch will possibly have.

 

[WhatTheHell]

If this hire came after a comprehensive nation wide search, I'd be more excited. It does not feel that way.

How does that impact your excitement? One has nothing to do with the other, am I wrong?

I'd be more ready to accept the Butch hire if I knew we held an honest search consisting of candidates outside of the "MIAMI GUYZ!" bubble.

If we aggressively pursued coaches I feel are better qualified, and failed, it would make it easier to embrace this hire. But if we simply hired Butch without exploring other options, it strikes me as lazy and a disservice to this program.

Reasonable. But embrace it, brother. Compare where we are to where we were two months ago. Butch is obsessed with turning Miami around. He'll do it or die trying (literally). First glimmer of hope in a decade.

I hear ya. I'm excited for Butch. I had him 3rd or 4th on my list.

It's good to know at the minimum we'll no longer be soft, we'll be playing actual defense once again, and kids like Skai Moore will no longer be leaving South Florida. I'm excited to see how guys like Redwine, Jaquan, and Norton develop under a real staff.

I just wanted those in charge to make sure they were making the best possible hire for the program. I'll be even more excited when Butch holds his presser because the dude can talk. It's a good hire.

 

[BostonCane]

That was my point. Butch's glory days are in the past. Time for a new face

 

[tdjones34]

4 years.

you do realize they were ready to roll in year 3 when all the crap hit
they were loaded

All the crap caused by the bag man that Butch hired?

There's always some qualifier with the cult. He was going to win 66 NCs at UM but he left before he could show his genius. He was about to blow up at UNC, but the school fcked him over.

so he had a bag man pay players that were there before he got there?
most of the suspensions were upper classmen

butch bashers hate facts

and where did I say Butch was my choice, just trumping your dumb arguments

Marvin Austin committed to UNC in February of 2007. Butch was hired November of 2006. Who was Marvin Austin's main recruiter? John Blake. John Blake was pushing kids towards an agency. Marvin Austin was one of them. You're talking about facts when you have none.

So you named 1 guy
what about Little, Draughns, Williams, Quinn
They guys were upperclassmen and suspended in 2010

 

[tdjones34]

4 years.

you do realize they were ready to roll in year 3 when all the crap hit
they were loaded

All the crap caused by the bag man that Butch hired?

There's always some qualifier with the cult. He was going to win 66 NCs at UM but he left before he could show his genius. He was about to blow up at UNC, but the school fcked him over.

so he had a bag man pay players that were there before he got there?
most of the suspensions were upper classmen

butch bashers hate facts

and where did I say Butch was my choice, just trumping your dumb arguments

Go study the case, braniac. All the guys suspended were guys he recruited and who Blake got involved with agents. They were suspended for taking gifts and partying with an agent. The academic scandal was something separate.

WRONG

 

[Southcane]

I expect some people to disappear from the board for a while.
I'm happy it is Butch if true.

 

[supacane]

Butch is a big fish. Yiu dont create that many savages and become mediocre because of UNC. Ill trust the guy who did it over some new flavor of the month like Golden. Patterson, D'Antonia, Kelly, Mulllen....hard sell. They are on the same level as Butch. Period