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Prediction on year Cristobal takes over.

TemplarCane said:
Great post.

Saban is a culture coach, yes, but he also modernized his run-first pro style offense. He knew to win in this era he needed to score more. He’d rather win 45-41 than lose ‘his way‘.

Mario isn‘t a scheme guy, fine. He’s a former OL and OL coach who wants smart, physical football first. Fast, he played with at Miami. He understands what that means. Seen it first hand, lined up next to it.

He by no means Saban, but he can be an excellent CEO-type installing a winning culture by recruiting and hiring smart assistants and coordinators coaching today’s game. Will he be? Maybe, maybe not. Some posters are crapping all over him for losing games he shouldn’t have lost, but look at the early careers of any coach and you will see the same.

The culture I question right now is the need to nit-pick and **** on every mistake, as if consistent perfection is possible.
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I think the best combination is a culture coach that hires elite schematic coaches (a la Dabo, Saban). A coach that does that will be able to sustain a program over the long haul. Mario could certainly do that. Shannon didn't hire elite staff, Golden didn't either, and neither did Mark Richt (his schematic offensive genius was Mark Richt). I'm underwhelmed with Diaz. Lashlee is decent but not a schematic guru and Diaz decided that the smartest DC available is Manny Diaz. I will say this for Diaz, I don't think he is unwilling to adapt and could eventually become a CEO coach with a top staff, but he is going to run out of time as he learns on the job. If he sprinkled in a few upsets of better teams and a 10 win season this year, he might get some breathing room but I'm not optimistic that is in the cards.
 
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NicKane said:
I wasn’t D, I knew it was another miami hire! When Ariz said it was between the bustello boys I was praying it was Mario abd then when I woke up to find it was manure, it was like waking up to morning depression. The guys a bum and so is the guy that hired him! One of the happiest days of my life will be when both those two scrubs are shown door and Ran out of town. That’ll be a a day of celebrations!
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lol
 
TemplarCane said:
Mario makes $5.5M/yr at Oregon and resources for more.

Who at Miami is paying the bill to buy him and staff out? Pay Manny to leave?
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The same ******* booster who was gonna pay his whole contract the last time! That is until flake that it would be a better idea to pay temple 4 million dollars to keep manures corching ***! Smh
 
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Hope @BabaYaga’s warming up to ease todays pain…
 
SayWhat said:
What's funny is that some fans here think that we just have to buyout Mario. Thinking that Oregon is just going to say see ya.

They have endless amounts of money thanks to Phil Knight. Have you seen the new Hayward Field, their track and field facility? It's not only the best in college, but it's literally the best in the entire world. 270 million dollar build.

We aren't buying out anything from under them if he keeps doing things like he did today. They could pay him literally any salary they wanted to keep him.
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they can pay him whatever they want yet they haven't. Peeps forget Manny initial contract was bigger than Mario contract and that was after paying a buyout to Temple for his sorry *** and Oregon actually got paid from FSU for Willie. even with Mario extention and pay raise he still isn't even in the top 25 of coaching salaries after not being in the top 50 on his initial contract. If Manny sorry ash started winning big games and NY 6 bowl games to justify an extention I bet he would be making more than Mario.

Just because someone has money doesn't mean they are going to spend it lol. Peeps need to stop overrating Knight and that Nike money, because if they were as serious about paying coaches as people claim Mario would have never been hired there in the first place the would have stolen a proven top coach from some one else like the other elite money schools do.
 
TimeBum said:
I think the best combination is a culture coach that hires elite schematic coaches (a la Dabo, Saban). A coach that does that will be able to sustain a program over the long haul. Mario could certainly do that. Shannon didn't hire elite staff, Golden didn't either, and neither did Mark Richt (his schematic offensive genius was Mark Richt). I'm underwhelmed with Diaz. Lashlee is decent but not a schematic guru and Diaz decided that the smartest DC available is Manny Diaz. I will say this for Diaz, I don't think he is unwilling to adapt and could eventually become a CEO coach with a top staff, but he is going to run out of time as he learns on the job. If he sprinkled in a few upsets of better teams and a 10 win season this year, he might get some breathing room but I'm not optimistic that is in the cards.
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I agree Diaz needs to give up being DC and hire a real DC. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is. And it remains to be seen if he‘s respected enough to lure elite assistants, who have more options.

Lashlee is barely an improvement over Enos, and needs to improve. The Canes may not have a full complement of horses but I need to see consistent, better playcalling. Last year‘s Pitt game was a good case. They played Miami tough in the trenches and the Canes couldn’t run. Lashlee worked and dialed up big pass plays that were the difference in the game. We can discuss if it SHOULD have mattered, but it did and the job was well done.

Of course, Clemson last season and Alabama last week are different beasts.
 
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TimeBum said:
Connect the dots:

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Where am I making a huge logical leap?


Is 2025 too early for Saban to retire? No. Would Dabo be Bama's #1 target? Yes. Would he take the job? Yes. Would Clemson be interested in Cristobal? Possibly, if he continues to have success. Is Clemson a better job than Oregon? Yes.
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Cristobal to Clemson is just utterly moronic.

If that happens I'll log off here and never log back in.
 
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JgDaCane said:
Oregon is a much much better school than Miami at this point. You guys need to get with reality. Last week was the final nail in our coffin.
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Just because Oregon and similar schools are better, doesn't mean we're dead. Our young men still compete and win big games, just as we did today. Huge victory for the program
 
Cold-hearted Cane said:
He was hired by Folden a month after being fired by Fiwho and was hired by Saban 6 weeks later. He was offered a government job BEFORE taking over Fipuke!
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I'm perfectly aware when he was hired and fired and when he left. As well as the circumstances behind it. I think you are right about the government situation but I don't remember if both times were in that same time frame. Once was working with his brother and the other was something like secret service if I remember correctly. I remember him telling me about that when everything was going on with alfraud. But maybe it was just rehashing the past. I'll ask him tomorrow.
 
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