Possible DC

[BWCD]

Running qbs are hard for everyone to stop.

...

Miami has had a problem with dual threat qbs forever.

"Winning football games is hard." - Al Golden

They might be hard to stop, but I'm saying Randy had trouble with it before EVERY TEAM ON THE SCHEDULE basically has one. So...how bad is it gonna be when all the teams have something that can exploit Randy's defensive scheme's weakness?

But I do recall Randy shutting down a potent Florida offense with a running tebow. Did it with a bunch of misfits against a stacked U*** team.

As for the Florida/Tebow shutdown...that was Bill Young's defense, Shannon was HC, but that was Bill Young making those calls and "making chicken salad from chicken ****e" as someone put up earlier in this thread.

 

[AUcane]

I'm with you BWCD. Shannon's defenses (especially the last 2-3 years) feasted on average offenses. But as soon as he faced an above average offense, we'd get gashed. There's a difference with "having problems with dual threat QBs" and "getting gashed by good dual threat QBs".

 

[BWCD]

LMFAO! @ wanting Orgeron's drunk, woman beatin' *** as DC...FOHWTS!

Those issues happened in 1991 thru 1994. You want to dismiss him as a possible coach, and judge him off of 20+ years ago of behavior...go ahead. Be dumb like that.

 

[Katzenboyer]

From 2003 through this year, Georgia has had 3 defenses ranked in the top 10 (scoring avg.). These were in 2003, 2005 and this year....

This wasn't terribly surprising. To me, if you don't have a big-time defense it becomes very difficult to win the big games and especially championships...

Hopefully we get a really good DC and staff...

I think Richt's defenses have been middle-of-the-pack within the SEC for the majority of his tenure. A couple years they were top-5 in the SEC but from what I've seen they're usually hovering around 6th-8th within the SEC.

Not very exciting IMO. I hope he makes a good hire like he did with Pruitt.

The 2005 defense was coordinated by Brian Van Gorder, who is now the defensive coordinator at Notre Dame. IIRC, the fans have been pretty unimpressed with him thus far...

 

[Canezum5]

Running qbs are hard for everyone to stop.

...

Miami has had a problem with dual threat qbs forever.

"Winning football games is hard." - Al Golden

They might be hard to stop, but I'm saying Randy had trouble with it before EVERY TEAM ON THE SCHEDULE basically has one. So...how bad is it gonna be when all the teams have something that can exploit Randy's defensive scheme's weakness?

But I do recall Randy shutting down a potent Florida offense with a running tebow. Did it with a bunch of misfits against a stacked U*** team.

As for the Florida/Tebow shutdown...that was Bill Young's defense, Shannon was HC, but that was Bill Young making those calls and "making chicken salad from chicken ****e" as someone put up earlier in this thread.

Youd be hard pressed to find a defensive coordinator ANYWHERE shutting down a dual threat QB with a good offense. So your point is mute. And randys defenses were never that bad against dual threat qbs. Maybe from 20 to 20. But not in the red zone or as a scoring defense.

Good thing about Randy is that he likes to improve on his faults. Purposely turning down jobs to hone in on his craft and learn from different coaches. Can't expect to think he hasn't learned a lot. Even though he wasn't that bad to begin with, in regards to defense.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

LMFAO! @ wanting Orgeron's drunk, woman beatin' *** as DC...FOHWTS!

You want to dismiss him as a possible coach, and judge him off of 20+ years ago of behavior...go ahead.

Correct, ***** that drunk, woman beatin' MFer. You $hitt!n on Randy bout' a running QB, but you want a drunk, woman beatin' MFer round some kids...FOHTWS!

 

[AUcane]

There's a difference between getting gashed by really good dual threat QBs and getting gashed by rEggie balls.

 

[BWCD]

Youd be hard pressed to find a defensive coordinator ANYWHERE shutting down a dual threat QB with a good offense. So your point is mute. And randys defenses were never that bad against dual threat qbs. Maybe from 20 to 20. But not in the red zone or as a scoring defense.

Solid work by you in blocking out the bad parts Shannon's defenses had issues with. I understand you want to accentuate the positive with RS, and I acknowledge them. We rushed the passer, we created turnovers, we had ballhawks and good cover corners in the secondary...the LB's were fast and hard-hitting athletic freaks. I get it.

But - turning a blind eye to what was bad about his defenses is just simply being disingenuous.

Good thing about Randy is that he likes to improve on his faults. Purposely turning down jobs to hone in on his craft and learn from different coaches. Can't expect to think he hasn't learned a lot. Even though he wasn't that bad to begin with, in regards to defense.

OK. I can see this point, somewhat.

But this supposition that RS is somehow better by being LB Coach at Arky and TCU is just as big of a leap, if not more of one, than the one I'm making about Orgeron possibly being ready for a DC nod. Let's be real clear on that.

 

[Salt]

There's a difference between getting gashed by really good dual threat QBs and getting gashed by rEggie balls.

Patrick Nix gashed Shannon's defense. Think about that.

 

[BWCD]

LMFAO! @ wanting Orgeron's drunk, woman beatin' *** as DC...FOHWTS!

You want to dismiss him as a possible coach, and judge him off of 20+ years ago of behavior...go ahead.

Correct, ***** that drunk, woman beatin' MFer. You $hitt!n on Randy bout' a running QB, but you want a drunk, woman beatin' MFer round some kids...FOHTWS!

And Onion was Uncle Luke's bagman, and as our HC couldn't form much more than a mush-mouthed sentence or two about guys flying around. He also complained to Joe Rose about a "long walk at Duke".

See? I can bring up dumb **** from the past in an attempt to irrationally discredit a guy, too.

 

[NE Canes]

I'm with you BWCD. Shannon's defenses (especially the last 2-3 years) feasted on average offenses. But as soon as he faced an above average offense, we'd get gashed. There's a difference with "having problems with dual threat QBs" and "getting gashed by good dual threat QBs".

Exactly!

Shannon supports love to throw out stats but in reality his D sucked and so did he. The D got killed vs any decent team.

Anyone claiming to understand football would look beyond a single stat.

 

[Dingaan1828]

Mentor Dorsey as OC
Shannon improved UF defense overnight and improved IF recruiting SFL. Taking him from UF helps our defense and stabs a knife into UG recruiting.

But I want Leavitt and Co.

Really? How much credit does Geoff Collins get?

 

[The Franchise]

People that want Orgeron as DC are likely the same type that want to give Cristobal a shot as OC. Not every good position coach has it in him to handle scheming an entire offense/defense. It's an entirely different world.

I'll be more direct. People who want Orgeron as DC are dead from the neck up and most likely from the waist down too.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

LMFAO! @ wanting Orgeron's drunk, woman beatin' *** as DC...FOHWTS!

You want to dismiss him as a possible coach, and judge him off of 20+ years ago of behavior...go ahead.

Correct, ***** that drunk, woman beatin' MFer. You $hitt!n on Randy bout' a running QB, but you want a drunk, woman beatin' MFer round some kids...FOHTWS!

And Onion was Uncle Luke's bagman, and as our HC couldn't form much more than a mush-mouthed sentence or two about guys flying around. He also complained to Joe Rose about a "long walk at Duke".

See? I can bring up dumb **** from the past in an attempt to irrationally discredit a guy, too.

Nahhhh buddy, that woman beater don't get no 2nd chance, not at UM.

 

[BWCD]

People that want Orgeron as DC are likely the same type that want to give Cristobal a shot as OC. Not every good position coach has it in him to handle scheming an entire offense/defense. It's an entirely different world.

I'll be more direct. People who want Orgeron as DC are dead from the neck up and most likely from the waist down too.

I am neither of those, so fvck you.

And I said we should consider him as an option, not hire him. My words haven't been "Orgeron or bust" or "#BBEO!!!" or dumbazz **** like that.

Talking **** about me when I'm not opposed to your Don Brown pick. Sit the fvck down.

 

[michaeldiamond74]

Randy Shannon

Dude quit recruiting half of our feeder schools during his tenure.

**** no. If you don't have enough common sense to get over yourself and make those relationships work then you should never be our DC.

Leavitt would be a great choice IMO.

 

[BWCD]

LMFAO! @ wanting Orgeron's drunk, woman beatin' *** as DC...FOHWTS!

You want to dismiss him as a possible coach, and judge him off of 20+ years ago of behavior...go ahead.

Correct, ***** that drunk, woman beatin' MFer. You $hitt!n on Randy bout' a running QB, but you want a drunk, woman beatin' MFer round some kids...FOHTWS!

And Onion was Uncle Luke's bagman, and as our HC couldn't form much more than a mush-mouthed sentence or two about guys flying around. He also complained to Joe Rose about a "long walk at Duke".

See? I can bring up dumb **** from the past in an attempt to irrationally discredit a guy, too.

Nahhhh buddy, that woman beater don't get no 2nd chance, not at UM.

So...what's 20 years into your past that disqualifies you from, oh, I don't know...anything? Weren't you on Laz's crew for the bank robbery?

This isn't the priesthood. If Orgeron can coach (and I think he can), we should consider him...regardless of his transgressions that happened over 2 decades ago.

People **** on Butch saying that "2015 Butch isn't 2000 Butch", which was dumb. Saying the converse about Orgeron is equally dumb, that he's the same wife-beating drunk as he was 20+ years ago. People change, sure, and sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse.

Orgeron's recent track record tends to show that he doesn't get drunk and beat up women anymore. He may have at 30-34 years old, but not at 54.

If you don't get that point, then you need to go the **** on.

 

[MarcoD70]

**** randy. He buried this program

Randy dug the hole, Golden covered up the bodies.....

 

[Loafers]

Wtf. . We just went out and spent money on a high profile hc. We have board members saying they will spend for assistants and we are throwing around orgeron. Dorsey is different cause richt can be the real oc with Dorsey learning under him. But why orgeron. Cause he coached here 20 years ago. Let's get a real DC, . Going to ***** the whole thing up by getting an inexperienced DC. Orgeron might be great prove it somewhere else. There are 100 guys more qualified. . We don't need all Miami guys. A different perspective on things is good to

 

[WhatTheHell]

I think Randy is a nice DC. I think Richt can do better.