Playoff rankings Miami #7

[ddann]

Wisconsin SHOULD be ahead of TCU & Oklahoma right now, just like Miami should be.

Again, this isn't rocket science. Losses to Iowa State aren't more impressive than wins over every team on your schedule...except in the committee's fantasy world.

(Nice try bringing UCF into the discussion, though).

No one, NO ONE, thinks Wisconsin is one of the best six teams in the country, much less the best four.

UCF has won all of their games. It shouldn't matter who you beat or how close the games are. GOING UNDEFEATED IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LOSING ANY GAME.

UCF isn't P5.

You're just playing games on here at this point.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

some things you just can see coming from a mile away, and right now I can see this committee under the leadership of Hocuunnt completely phucking this up

Frank Beamer is on the committee too.

That is 2 out of 13 votes already who are no fans of Miami.

Clemson's AD. That's 3 votes.

Ohio Taint's AD. That's 4 votes.

Tyrone Willingham, formerly of ND. That's 5 votes.

A former NCAA Executive VP? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That's 6 votes.

THREE guys who are connected (or formerly connected) to non-Power Five institutions.

Now, tell me again, WHO ON THAT COMMITTEE IS SUDDENLY GOING TO START LOOKING AT MIAMI'S BODY OF WORK TO ARGUE FOR A HIGHER RANKING?

Now tell us why those people all hate #8 undefeated Wisconsin.

You are, literally, the worst arguer on this board.

Nobody said that those people "hate" Wisconsin. Wisconsin just moved up 1 spot.

You have never, over the last week, ever rebutted a single one of my arguments. You keep losing arguments, and then you keep trying to change the subject ("oh, people hate Wisconsin now").

You are a clown show.

 

[407cane]

Wisconsin SHOULD be ahead of TCU & Oklahoma right now, just like Miami should be.

Again, this isn't rocket science. Losses to Iowa State aren't more impressive than wins over every team on your schedule...except in the committee's fantasy world.

(Nice try bringing UCF into the discussion, though).

No one, NO ONE, thinks Wisconsin is one of the best six teams in the country, much less the best four.

UCF has won all of their games. It shouldn't matter who you beat or how close the games are. GOING UNDEFEATED IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LOSING ANY GAME.

Agree ^^

UCF beat maryland 31-10 at maryland

wisonsin beat maryland 38-13 at wisconsin


ucf has a top 25 win (memphis), wisconsin does not

ucf has beaten more teams with winning records than wisconsin

how the F is ucf not better than wisconsin?

 

[Caniac16]

some things you just can see coming from a mile away, and right now I can see this committee under the leadership of Hocuunnt completely phucking this up

Frank Beamer is on the committee too.

That is 2 out of 13 votes already who are no fans of Miami.

Clemson's AD. That's 3 votes.

Ohio Taint's AD. That's 4 votes.

Tyrone Willingham, formerly of ND. That's 5 votes.

A former NCAA Executive VP? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That's 6 votes.

THREE guys who are connected (or formerly connected) to non-Power Five institutions.

Now, tell me again, WHO ON THAT COMMITTEE IS SUDDENLY GOING TO START LOOKING AT MIAMI'S BODY OF WORK TO ARGUE FOR A HIGHER RANKING?

Now tell us why those people all hate #8 undefeated Wisconsin.

You are, literally, the worst arguer on this board.

Nobody said that those people "hate" Wisconsin. Wisconsin just moved up 1 spot.

You have never, over the last week, ever rebutted a single one of my arguments. You keep losing arguments, and then you keep trying to change the subject ("oh, people hate Wisconsin now").

You are a clown show.

You just proved his point and you don't even realize it.

If the committee hates us so much, they should also hate Wisconsin, because Wisconsin is also undefeated and also not ranked up in the top-four.

But the committee doesn't hate us and they don't hate Wisconsin. They're just ranking teams to create dialogue and give ESPN free programming. The only ranking that matters is the one at the end of the year. If Miami is undefeated, they will be in the top-four.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

You are, literally, the worst arguer on this board.

Nobody said that those people "hate" Wisconsin. Wisconsin just moved up 1 spot.

You have never, over the last week, ever rebutted a single one of my arguments. You keep losing arguments, and then you keep trying to change the subject ("oh, people hate Wisconsin now").

You are a clown show.

Undefeated Miami is #7 : "They hate us and this is how it's going to be every year."

Undefeated Wisconsin is #8 : "Uh......they moved up a spot. No one hates them."

This is tee-ball. Too easy.

 

[chrisRMNU]

Do you mean with a loss to ND?

What?

I mean we obviously are in if we’re undefeated. I’m asking do you think we have a chance as a 1 loss ACC champ

No, we are out with a loss unless it's one of those seasons in which everyone loses again.

What if we lose a close one but beat Clemson in the ACC champ....would that be enough of other teams lost along the way

IMO we should be in with that scenario. Clemson would drop out, and our worst loss would be a close one to a #3 ND. That should put us ahead of every other 1 loss team.

 

[cooks002]

Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You know what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Wisconsin SHOULD be ahead of TCU & Oklahoma right now, just like Miami should be.

Again, this isn't rocket science. Losses to Iowa State aren't more impressive than wins over every team on your schedule...except in the committee's fantasy world.

(Nice try bringing UCF into the discussion, though).

No one, NO ONE, thinks Wisconsin is one of the best six teams in the country, much less the best four.

UCF has won all of their games. It shouldn't matter who you beat or how close the games are. GOING UNDEFEATED IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LOSING ANY GAME.

UCF isn't P5.

You're just playing games on here at this point.

Compare UCF's schedule and Wisconsin's schedule. It's not that far apart.

 

[ddann]

Wisconsin SHOULD be ahead of TCU & Oklahoma right now, just like Miami should be.

Again, this isn't rocket science. Losses to Iowa State aren't more impressive than wins over every team on your schedule...except in the committee's fantasy world.

(Nice try bringing UCF into the discussion, though).

No one, NO ONE, thinks Wisconsin is one of the best six teams in the country, much less the best four.

UCF has won all of their games. It shouldn't matter who you beat or how close the games are. GOING UNDEFEATED IS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN LOSING ANY GAME.

UCF isn't P5.

You're just playing games on here at this point.

Compare UCF's schedule and Wisconsin's schedule. It's not that far apart.

Good job.

And this means TCU & Oklahoma should still be ranked ahead of Miami, how?

Still waiting...

 

[swampcougar1]

How is NW top 25. Last place team in the Coastal, Duke, hammered them

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

You just compared Texas and Kansas State to North Carolina?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Good job.

And this means TCU & Oklahoma should still be ranked ahead of Miami, how?

Still waiting...

The same reason why you agree that 17 teams should be ranked ahead of UCF. Schedule matters.

 

[westcoastcanes]

So we have a clear path into the top four. Just like I tried to explain to those buffoons all week.

You are a lying sack.

You never said "clear path". You said that Miami controls its own destiny, win and they are in. And that is still not true.

We jumped NONE of the 1-loss teams that were ahead of us.

There is no guarantee that the loser of Alabama-UGa drops below us. The TCU-OU winner may stay ahead of us. And Wisconsin and Washington may still jump us.

We have a "clear path" - if Miami wins out AND certain teams lose (particularly if TCU and OU face each other in the Big 12 Championship game and they each win one).

If we go undefeated we are going to the playoff. Thinking otherwise is idiotic.

Nobody said "thinking otherwise". This has NOTHING to do with anyone's opinion, it has to do with looking at how the CFP are voting.

"Miami hasn't beaten anyone". Then we do. They move us up ONE SPOT over teams ahead of us who won.

Not to mention the fact that Ohio Taint and Ped State already lost.

So, again, we were ASSISTED by factors outside of our control. Do you honestly believe that if Ohio Taint and Ped State had won that we would be any higher than #9 ?

Yes, we are going to benefit from other teams losing. It is NOT all about Miami "winning out". Just as I said last week.

And just as happened last week, you are presenting impossible scenarios, and at best incredibly unlikely scenarios.

Not all teams can win out. Too many teams play each other.

WORST case scenario, Miami ends the year as one of three undefeated teams. We have already jumped Wisconsin, and we have two games against teams in the top 5 left on the schedule.

2 loss Clemson, will not be in front of undefeated Miami. 2 loss TCU/OU will not be in front of undefeated Miami. 2 loss ND will not be in front of undefeated Miami. These are absurd positions. We are 7, there are three teams that cannot possibly finish in front of us, since they cannot possibly all win out as long as we win out.

Maintaining that something is stacked against a team sitting at 7 with two games against teams in the top 5 on their schedule putting them in some impossible position with help required is ******* ridiculous.

Your only argument is both an unknown, and a virtual impossibility. Just drop it already.

 

[ddann]

Good job.

And this means TCU & Oklahoma should still be ranked ahead of Miami, how?

Still waiting...

The same reason why you agree that 17 teams should be ranked ahead of UCF. Schedule matters.

Awesome.

So losing to Iowa State at home when Iowa State is starting a backup QB means your schedule is more impressive than beating UNC on the road.

I think I see it now.

 

[GenericYesMan]

Ideally:

Miami wins
Georgia wins out
Wisky wins out
Oklahoma beats TCU

That ends the season with 1. Georgia 2. Miami 3. Oklahoma 4. Wisconsin in my opinion. Especially if Georgia beats up Auburn this weekend and Alabama beats them in the Iron Bowl.

Would make Bama's SOS look terrible.

 

[cooks002]

Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

You just compared Texas and Kansas State to North Carolina?

Nice try; Baylor is arguably the worst Power 5 team in the country. Texas and Kansas State a combined 9-9 on the season, comparable to the unranked teams that we "barely beat". At the end of the day there is no comparison because we won all of our games. Oklahoma didn't.

 

[OldhamA]

Guys, this is an Elimination Game.

Beat the Irish and our problems our solved.

Until next week. We’re Miami:we can’t afford to lose.

1 loss winner of the ACC is in.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Good job.

And this means TCU & Oklahoma should still be ranked ahead of Miami, how?

Still waiting...

The same reason why you agree that 17 teams should be ranked ahead of UCF. Schedule matters.

Awesome.

So losing to Iowa State at home when Iowa State is starting a backup QB means your schedule is more impressive than beating UNC on the road.

I think I see it now.

If you keep changing the topic we're going to be talking about the moon landing soon. Does schedule matter to you or not?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

You just compared Texas and Kansas State to North Carolina?

Nice try; Baylor is arguably the worst Power 5 team in the country. Texas and Kansas State a combined 9-9 on the season, comparable to the unranked teams that we "barely beat". At the end of the day there is no comparison because we won all of our games. Oklahoma didn't.

You compared Texas and Kansas State to UNC. I think you realized the epic stupidity of that comment, that's why you're on the defensive now.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table