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I’ve seen a few recently about players meeting with coaches, doing more film study on their own etc… this is what most of the board can’t wrap their heads around. Yes we have talent but they’ve never been coached by a quality staff before. Their preparation on and off the field was awful. It has shown on Saturdays for most of this season.

Glad Taylor is manning up and ready to take the next step. Also Stevenson admitted today he had to look at himself and do better with film study and preparation which he started a couple weeks back.

These are the things that take a program from middle of the pack to the top. Need this across the board but there are a lot of bad eggs in the basket right now.

Lots of kids will leave after this year and it’s probably a good thing. This is the culture part that Miami has lacked for so long. We are starting to see more buyin on the current roster and hopefully these new classes/portal will be ready from day 1 to do the right things.

We need a monster game from Taylor on Saturday

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JHallCanes said:
I don’t want to speak on details about the kid but remember last year when it really looked like there was a big divide between him and the staff?

If there’s anything I trust with Mario besides recruiting, it’s stuff like this
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not since Al Golden straddled Malcolm Lewis and made sweet love to him in front of America
 
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This is an example of the culture issues on the team.

Yes, there are schematic issues, no doubt. Coaching issues, clearly. But every player should stop pouting and take Taylor’s example and work harder, study film, work on their craft. On their own. The coaches are only allowed so much time with players. And if they truly can’t buy in, use the transfer portal to find a better option for themself.

What’s the cliche?

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard?

Something like that.

There have been some great talents at The U but I’d wager all of them to man worked hard on their own, and with teammates, away from coaches.

If they didn’t someone else would take their spot.
 
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Mklein13 said:
My question is why does it take these players this long to realize they need to start doing this?
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Zero player leadership to hold each other accountable to be Great. Coaches can only do so much. They can’t be with them all day every day holding their hand. You got to learn to eat right, sleep, not party all the time, take it seriously, study film etc… on your own. Coaches can guide a player but it’s still on the player to take ownership of those things.

The best teams are led by the players not the coaches. Saban talks about it in his book how he basically takes is alphas and molds them to be Minnie sabans and then those guys are enforcers when Saban and coaches aren’t around.

Not sure our “top” players have been leaders for a very long time. Soft, weak *** corches like manny had a circus on his hands. Mario will fix this but it takes time
 
Granted I played small college ball when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, but no one gave you a choice about film study or reading and knowing a scouting report cold - then again we won conference titles and played in bowl games.

Some of these athletes don't have the focus, capacity or desire to do it, and some of those are the leftover 4-5 stars that we end up with and make a fuss over, but that didn't check all the boxes on the Bamas, Georgias and Ohio States check lists. Miami would have been better off the past 17 years finding some coach with a reputation of recruiting diamonds in the rough - then send him to recruit the rest of Florida outside of Dade - where it seems athletes get an extra star because of the area's previous reputation when Miami had the pick of the litter.

We had a couple 2-3 Stars here in Punta Gorda that both went to FIU and both are in The League right now. You may remember Stantley Thomas-Oliver (Carolina Panthers since 2020) whose Interception swung the momentum during the first incredibly embarrassing upset. D'Vonte Price got brought up to the Colts 53 man roster three weeks ago. I watched most every HS game these guys played - both were two-way starters. They both knew how to turn their head during coverage to see where the ball was, in HIGH SCHOOL, not still trying to grasp the concept three years into their college careers like ours were that year...
 

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BeastMode said:
Zero player leadership to hold each other accountable to be Great. Coaches can only do so much. They can’t be with them all day every day holding their hand. You got to learn to eat right, sleep, not party all the time, take it seriously, study film etc… on your own. Coaches can guide a player but it’s still on the player to take ownership of those things.

The best teams are led by the players not the coaches. Saban talks about it in his book how he basically takes is alphas and molds them to be Minnie sabans and then those guys are enforcers when Saban and coaches aren’t around.

Not sure our “top” players have been leaders for a very long time. Soft, weak *** corches like manny had a circus on his hands. Mario will fix this but it takes time
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A thread was started a while ago about a former player at alabama (amari cooper?) visiting practice and seeing an incoming freshman acting a fool, then approached him and said "We don't do that here" and coached him up a bit. Now contrast that with our older players, supposed leaders on the team, seeing X come in as a freshman putting in extra work, then they approach him and say "We don't do that here" and dog him for it.
 
How long has it been since starters have had to fight to keep their job? Whether it was nobody good behind them or playing old guys just bc they were old. They just haven’t in a long time.

These kids who have no NFL future, who have starting spots written in stone, aren’t gonna do anything extra, if nobody is holding them accountable.
 
BeastMode said:
I’ve seen a few recently about players meeting with coaches, doing more film study on their own etc… this is what most of the board can’t wrap their heads around. Yes we have talent but they’ve never been coached by a quality staff before. Their preparation on and off the field was awful. It has shown on Saturdays for most of this season.

Glad Taylor is manning up and ready to take the next step. Also Stevenson admitted today he had to look at himself and do better with film study and preparation which he started a couple weeks back.

These are the things that take a program from middle of the pack to the top. Need this across the board but there are a lot of bad eggs in the basket right now.

Lots of kids will leave after this year and it’s probably a good thing. This is the culture part that Miami has lacked for so long. We are starting to see more buyin on the current roster and hopefully these new classes/portal will be ready from day 1 to do the right things.

We need a monster game from Taylor on Saturday

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Awesome! I hope he keeps it going.
 
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