Pete-Josh Newberg (Perry)

Most impressive things I've noticed about Perry in watching various videos is his ease of movement and his ability to know where everyone is. He makes subtle moves to buy an extra second, and that's often the difference between a big play and a sack/throwing the ball away. Without pads, most of the throws he made were to his 2nd read, and he did it quickly and knew exactly where they were.

Often, the difference between success and failure at the marquee P5 level is the ability to remain calm. You can have the biggest arm in the world and be a fast runner, but if you are a panicky guy who loses his **** if his first read isn't open immediately or if he feels pressure from the D, then you're never going to succeed.

his release is very quick and it looks like he can throw a 40 yard laser with his legs tied together,
 
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Name the QB's Richt has had that were good and then compare.

As a OC/HC

Danny Kanell
Thad Busby
Chris Weinke
David Greene
D.J. Shockley
Matthew Stafford
Aaron Murray

As the QB coach

Charlie Ward
Brad Johnson
Casey Weldon

The discussion was about evaluating QBs out of high school. Brad Johnson and Casey Weldon were recruited before Richt was there and both had been at FSU two years before he was the QB coach. David Greene was on the roster at UGA a year before Richt got the job.

Taking those 3 out. Would you trust Richt evaluating on QB?

Do you know if Rick "evaluated" all those guys or if he just coached many of them? I don't know who he was responsible for evaluating as an assistant at FSU. His results at UGA are a mixed bag at best.

I don't know that much infomation but I will say this. The QB play after he left FSU fell off until Jumbo got there and UGA QB wasn't that good before he got there. I will take the 10 years mixed bag from Richt rather then what we had here the past decade.
 
Most impressive things I've noticed about Perry in watching various videos is his ease of movement and his ability to know where everyone is. He makes subtle moves to buy an extra second, and that's often the difference between a big play and a sack/throwing the ball away. Without pads, most of the throws he made were to his 2nd read, and he did it quickly and knew exactly where they were.

Often, the difference between success and failure at the marquee P5 level is the ability to remain calm. You can have the biggest arm in the world and be a fast runner, but if you are a panicky guy who loses his **** if his first read isn't open immediately or if he feels pressure from the D, then you're never going to succeed.

Well said. This is also one of the biggest reasons I compare him to Bridgewater.

He looks a lot more accurate than Turdy was. I get what you're saying though. I'm super impressed with his look off game and his ability to know exactly where his 2nd read is extremely quickly. A lot of times you'll see a guy search for his second read and eventually find him. But in a real game he wouldn't have time to do that and it would be a sack. Perry is lightning quick processing that info in the videos I've watched.
 
He looks a lot more accurate than Turdy was. I get what you're saying though. I'm super impressed with his look off game and his ability to know exactly where his 2nd read is extremely quickly. A lot of times you'll see a guy search for his second read and eventually find him. But in a real game he wouldn't have time to do that and it would be a sack. Perry is lightning quick processing that info in the videos I've watched.

Accuracy is Bridgewater's game. He was a 69% career passer in college with a healthy 8.6 YPA in a pro system. Also a 65% passer in the pros. I actually think Perry drives the ball better than Bridgewater, at least in high school.

To your point, I like athletic guys who excel in 7-on-7. Bridgewater and Perry were both awesome on the 7-on-7 circuit even when you removed their ability to use their legs. They weren't personal QB coach robots- they learned the game by playing and developed field vision. True point guards. And most important, it translated when the pads came on.
 
Not taking the side of Newberg and I'm in no way an evaluator or QB's or any other position but if you look at Perrys highlight tape there's a lot of balls in there that he throws up for grabs and his receivers go up and get the ball.

I even told someone we should be recruiting a couple of his WR's especially # 14.

If this kid comes in and is anywhere near as good as we all hope he is and needs to be we will be more than fortunate cause freshman QB's especially ones that aren't EE rarely do much their freshman years.

All I'm saying is that Newberg isn't entirely wrong in his assessment in my opinion..such that it is.

I've watched 2 of his highlight tapes and didn't see what you saw. One of us is an idiot

Don't know which highlights your looking at but I just went and watched the ones I've seen again.in the tape he throws 5 balls up for grabs in or near the end zone,one being caught out of bounds,that his receivers went up and got.Those are the one IN the Highlight film.

I Have to imagine that if those are IN the highlight film there are probably a few more that didn't make the tape.Someone that had looked at more film or seen the kid live would know that.

I'm putting my trust in CMR cause he's the first legitimate coach we've had in 15 years.If he thinks the kid is the goods than I'll believe him.I was just saying that the kid DOES appear to throw the ball up for grabs at times something I imagine most HS QB's do.

Does he throw the ball up for grabs or does he know his receivers and trust that they'll make the play?
Now we're criticizing him for giving his best WR a chance to make a play. All great QBs do that. If it's the ones I recall, the WR was the only one who really had a shot at making a play.
 
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I trust Mark Richt over some dumbass Nole reporter and I ultimately think Perry will have a lot of success here. HOWEVER, there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs--that will NOT translate to the collegiate level. Hoping he doesn't make too many of these mistakes as a freshman, but if he does he needs to learn when to just throw the ball away. I think this will be Perry's greatest challenge as a true freshman.
 
I trust Mark Richt over some dumbass Nole reporter and I ultimately think Perry will have a lot of success here. HOWEVER, there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs--that will NOT translate to the collegiate level. Hoping he doesn't make too many of these mistakes as a freshman, but if he does he needs to learn when to just throw the ball away. I think this will be Perry's greatest challenge as a true freshman.

Break down all this times where Perry threw it up for grabs. Buffoons tend to conflate throws into tight windows with throwing it up for grabs. Show me you're not a buffoon.
 
You know who's opinion matters the most on Perry?...

This guy named Mark Richt, I think he's the Head Coach of Miami Hurricanes, not sure on that though (will check with my sources).

Whether Newberg is right or wrong as far as Perry's ability in year one, Richt isn't immune from missing on QBs. He targeted Brice Ramsey and he's a better punter than QB at this point. Logan Gray. Faton Batua. Christian LeMay. He's had plenty of misses there recently which is why he was playing UVA washout Greyson Lambert in 2015.
Well, then what's your solution?

Its not about a solution. We'll see what happens but I'm not just gonna say Richt likes him so a dissenting opinion is invalid. I haven't seen enough of Perry's actual game film to even form an opinion one way or the other.

This board needs more posters like fin cane
 
I trust Mark Richt over some dumbass Nole reporter and I ultimately think Perry will have a lot of success here. HOWEVER, there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs--that will NOT translate to the collegiate level. Hoping he doesn't make too many of these mistakes as a freshman, but if he does he needs to learn when to just throw the ball away. I think this will be Perry's greatest challenge as a true freshman.

Break down all this times where Perry threw it up for grabs. Buffoons tend to conflate throws into tight windows with throwing it up for grabs. Show me you're not a buffoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2_qKaRC2s0

Not going to go through his whole highlight tape, but plays like those at the 1:54 mark wont translate to college. Im fully aware of what throwing it into a tight window looks like, and this is not that--he completely throws that ball up for grabs. At doak next year, this is an INT. College quarterbacks can't get away with some of the things they did against inferior competition in high school. All I'm saying is he needs to be smart and learn quickly that sometimes throwing the ball away or taking a small loss is a positive. This is something I'll be looking for next season, other than that I'm sold on him as our starter moving forward.
 
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He's not wrong with thinking fans are naive and looking at him as A savior.

I think people may be confused by this perception. Is it naive to see the current reality of our qb situation & not hope for him to come in as simply a better option(therefore our savior)? Wouldn't he be our savior to simply be a better option than what we ended up coming out of spring with which is no option that provides a light at the end of the tunnel regardless. And I say this as I'm not at all sold on nkosi. I just see it as if he's worse than either of those 2 than were in trouble... maybe weldon adapts to the game that much more come camp & than he'll be the option. But if sherriffs or Malik is where we end up at it makes sense to pray for a savior does it not?
 
We tend to forget, qbs do build a trust with receivers, and know each other's tendencies where, sometimes, it's a throw based on informed instinct as to where the receiver is going to be, or that the receiver knows where the qb is going to throw and makes the adjustment. This happens on a small percentage of throws every game, with every qb, and only matters when it backfires. Then it's coulda, shoulda kind of reflection.

We also need to remember, Josh Newberg is only trying to placate his crowd because Perry is coming to us - A**noles feel they are entitled to every great recruit that goes elsewhere.
 
I trust Mark Richt over some dumbass Nole reporter and I ultimately think Perry will have a lot of success here. HOWEVER, there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs--that will NOT translate to the collegiate level. Hoping he doesn't make too many of these mistakes as a freshman, but if he does he needs to learn when to just throw the ball away. I think this will be Perry's greatest challenge as a true freshman.

Break down all this times where Perry threw it up for grabs. Buffoons tend to conflate throws into tight windows with throwing it up for grabs. Show me you're not a buffoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2_qKaRC2s0

Not going to go through his whole highlight tape, but plays like those at the 1:54 mark wont translate to college. Im fully aware of what throwing it into a tight window looks like, and this is not that--he completely throws that ball up for grabs. At doak next year, this is an INT. College quarterbacks can't get away with some of the things they did against inferior competition in high school. All I'm saying is he needs to be smart and learn quickly that sometimes throwing the ball away or taking a small loss is a positive. This is something I'll be looking for next season, other than that I'm sold on him as our starter moving forward.

Weak. You said, "there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs" which means you actually saw those throws and identified them as up for grabs. So you can either point out many instances in the highlight tapes of this happening, or you're just going along with what somebody else said without having any real visual information. In other words you made it up.
 
I trust Mark Richt over some dumbass Nole reporter and I ultimately think Perry will have a lot of success here. HOWEVER, there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs--that will NOT translate to the collegiate level. Hoping he doesn't make too many of these mistakes as a freshman, but if he does he needs to learn when to just throw the ball away. I think this will be Perry's greatest challenge as a true freshman.

Break down all this times where Perry threw it up for grabs. Buffoons tend to conflate throws into tight windows with throwing it up for grabs. Show me you're not a buffoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2_qKaRC2s0

Not going to go through his whole highlight tape, but plays like those at the 1:54 mark wont translate to college. Im fully aware of what throwing it into a tight window looks like, and this is not that--he completely throws that ball up for grabs. At doak next year, this is an INT. College quarterbacks can't get away with some of the things they did against inferior competition in high school. All I'm saying is he needs to be smart and learn quickly that sometimes throwing the ball away or taking a small loss is a positive. This is something I'll be looking for next season, other than that I'm sold on him as our starter moving forward.

Weak. You said, "there are many times in Perry's highlight tape where he throws the ball up for grabs" which means you actually saw those throws and identified them as up for grabs. So you can either point out many instances in the highlight tapes of this happening, or you're just going along with what somebody else said without having any real visual information. In other words you made it up.

It's time for another internet buffoon fact to be hatched from these diseased hens. A couple more yokels jump on the "he throws it up for grabs" tomfoolery, and soon it'll be established bozo fact.
 
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