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PEDs in Football

It's called Micro-dosing & a majority of most top athletes in both team & indiviuals sports are doing it.

They give the athlete small amounts incrementally so as to remain undetected in testing while still cycling periodically.

Turinabol doping is a huge right now because of how effective in can be in small amounts over time.
 
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Barboni said:
Sure looks like renfro’s body rejected everything except for maybe anavar. 8 years of juicing at Clemson and he looks like a wr from Belen. That’s a lot of juice. Not saying you’re lying, op. However, after being around a bunch of kids from coaching, it seems unlikely.

I coached kids that went to all the big programs and I’ve never heard of the strength staff recently (since I was coaching) giving out PEDs. ****, bama caught heat for giving some players deer antler extract, which you can pick up online or the vitamin shoppe for $50-$150. I’ve used it, and it doesn’t get you bigger or stronger. It’s not a prohoromone. Just helps with joint paint. Also, most of d1 kids that I coached wouldn’t even touch a protein shake in hs, much less creatine. They called it steroids lol.


I do know that at Ohio st their former strength coach was sponsored by a supplement company and would give them a stack of...protein, aminos, and I think creatine. That’s if they wanted to take it.


I do know a few players that have taken hgh/hgh peptides stacked with test. It was recommended by either a player that everyone knew was on it or they wanted to ball out for their last season in college. Never heard it recommended from
A coach. It’s a small amount of players who have taken it, relative to the total number that I’ve coached.
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Same here. Bunch of nonsense.
 
CaniacOnTheDanceFloor said:
I work with a Clemson booster who’s brother is on the S&C staff at Clemson. We were discussing the PED statement Dabo made. He flat out told me the director and assistants PURPOSELY give every single starter on offense and defenses and up to 2nd string , PEDs. To be specific - Dianabol, Trenbolon, Anadrol and testosterone in the spring workouts to gain nitrogen infusion and protein synthesis . They keep detailed schedules of each player’s cycle. They then “cruise” u til fall camp. This means they decrease the amount of anabolics being placed in the body and then once the season starts he said they switch to a “maintaining” program. He said that they make sure they have a high supply of HGH for injuries and such. He went on to say they HAD to do this in order to compete with “the Bamas of the world”. “They got pharmacy’s on speed dial” his words.

Two things went through my head. 1. Clemson and programs like them are pumping stupid money paying for the running of such programs because just taking 4-6 IUs of growth a day can cost anywhere from 500-700$ a month per player. And 2. AINT no freakin way the NCAA blowhards don’t know about this going on at their favorite schools. But everybody else has to play fair right? I freaking hate the fact that these guys ain’t even scared anymore. They do what they want when they want. I mean I’ve known the guy a while and he knows I’m a miami fan and he felt comfortable telling me all this.
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You are lying like a MFer
 
Coach Macho said:
Or his buddy is lying, overdramatizing everything.
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Right...you know kids and I know kids that played for them...**** I know two 5 star players that played for them and neither one of them look like they ever took a roid....barely even worked out...lol
 
Do y’all think FSU used roids on the recent success they had to the NC? And why isn’t the success continued ? Does Fsu still use?
 
Barboni said:
Sure looks like renfro’s body rejected everything except for maybe anavar. 8 years of juicing at Clemson and he looks like a wr from Belen. That’s a lot of juice. Not saying you’re lying, op. However, after being around a bunch of kids from coaching, it seems unlikely.

I coached kids that went to all the big programs and I’ve never heard of the strength staff recently (since I was coaching) giving out PEDs. ****, bama caught heat for giving some players deer antler extract, which you can pick up online or the vitamin shoppe for $50-$150. I’ve used it, and it doesn’t get you bigger or stronger. It’s not a prohoromone. Just helps with joint paint. Also, most of d1 kids that I coached wouldn’t even touch a protein shake in hs, much less creatine. They called it steroids lol.


I do know that at Ohio st their former strength coach was sponsored by a supplement company and would give them a stack of...protein, aminos, and I think creatine. That’s if they wanted to take it.


I do know a few players that have taken hgh/hgh peptides stacked with test. It was recommended by either a player that everyone knew was on it or they wanted to ball out for their last season in college. Never heard it recommended from
A coach. It’s a small amount of players who have taken it, relative to the total number that I’ve coached.
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81367
 
Steroids and HGH definitely go on in CFB, just not the way OP describes it. First of all, there is no systemwide mechanism in place. Where it is being given to players at the school. Having something like that in place is a sure recipe for being ratted out. Too many links to that S&C staff and the school itself.

The way Bama does it, and granted I’ve heard this 3rd hand, is that they have one or more third-parties that help the players dose. But it’s not directly connected to the school.

But what happens is the word gets around among the players and then the Alabama players know all where to go. But it’s not on campus. And there is no systematized procedure within the school, so it’s all plausible deniability.

But the participation rate is extremely high. Not 100%, but virtually all the lineman, running backs etc. I’m guessing Clemson has a similar system in place, but with no direct connection to the school or coaching personnel.
 
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CaniacOnTheDanceFloor said:
I work with a Clemson booster who’s brother is on the S&C staff at Clemson. We were discussing the PED statement Dabo made. He flat out told me the director and assistants PURPOSELY give every single starter on offense and defenses and up to 2nd string , PEDs. To be specific - Dianabol, Trenbolon, Anadrol and testosterone in the spring workouts to gain nitrogen infusion and protein synthesis . They keep detailed schedules of each player’s cycle. They then “cruise” u til fall camp. This means they decrease the amount of anabolics being placed in the body and then once the season starts he said they switch to a “maintaining” program. He said that they make sure they have a high supply of HGH for injuries and such. He went on to say they HAD to do this in order to compete with “the Bamas of the world”. “They got pharmacy’s on speed dial” his words.

Two things went through my head. 1. Clemson and programs like them are pumping stupid money paying for the running of such programs because just taking 4-6 IUs of growth a day can cost anywhere from 500-700$ a month per player. And 2. AINT no freakin way the NCAA blowhards don’t know about this going on at their favorite schools. But everybody else has to play fair right? I freaking hate the fact that these guys ain’t even scared anymore. They do what they want when they want. I mean I’ve known the guy a while and he knows I’m a miami fan and he felt comfortable telling me all this.
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I told you guys this awhile back. The problem is you guys still think the NCAA picks and chooses who to pick on. They DONT! Nearly any team that remains competitive is doing this, especially if the money is right. Clemson screwed up, because they didnt 'maintain the program' properly and they lost players for games because of it.

The NCAA has to do certain things in a certain way to keep Feds off their backs, and to keep lawsuits at bay. This testing is regulatory, but if the schools 'do their job, maintaining the program' (i.e. PED usage), then everyone stays happy. When you ***** up like Clemson did, there is no away around it but to suspend players...here's the secret though. Clemson knew they screwed up before the testing took place, and this is the reason that a handful of kids were suspended. It wasnt by accident...very easily could the majority of the O-line and D-Line have been suspended as well as...wait for it...T. Lawrence himself.
 
wanna know how clemson and bama players are so big and ripped...?

They recruit them BIG AND RIPPED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL....They arent recruiting Tecory Couch's of the world. (though i like him).

Also at the end of the day...check the combine results....those are usually the best of the best from these schools who have dedicated weeks or months for this event...some of these big SEC SEC SEC schools yall d*ckride have guys put up the most avg combine results.
 
Here's the part I don't buy. You don't give grown CB's and WR's Test or Dbol. I could see that as a true frosh. That makes sense for a guy like Bethel, Miller, Campbell, or Rosseau as Frosh. I'm not pumping Test or Dbol to Bandy, Hall, Shaq, or Mike. What's the point of them gaining 15-20lbs of muscle. It would slow them down. We know something is going on there. I'll bet it's much more specific to each player that just giving them blow up roids.

The HGH part makes a lot of sense during the season to help regenerate. Even if they are taking 6 each for 6 months for all 22 starters that's only $100K. That's chump change when you're making the playoffs.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Yeah, when we think of performance enhancing drugs - it's typically steroid related. Unfortunately, everything has a price - and that price is to be paid in full - either up front, as you go, or on the tail-end.

There are more natural performance enhancing compounds that originate from nature - and I know of one that will give some top athletes at least a 10% increase in endurance, and at least that much again in strength - and no steroids, no dangerous drugs. It works at the mitochondrial level - just improving cellular efficiency.

But the SEC big boys - don't give a tinkers's dam about the long-term side effects of steroids.
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And the substance you are speaking of, is what exactly? Hopefully, not polyquinoline quinone
 
Liberty City El said:
It's called Micro-dosing & a majority of most top athletes in both team & indiviuals sports are doing it.

They give the athlete small amounts incrementally so as to remain undetected in testing while still cycling periodically.

Turinabol doping is a huge right now because of how effective in can be in small amounts over time.
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Testing will always be behind. You just have to be a complete moron to get caught.
 
RedSquare said:
And the substance you are speaking of, is what exactly? Hopefully, not polyquinoline quinone
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No, and I think you mean pyrroloquinoline quinone.

It's not on the market yet - a number of body builders, mountain bikers, - the endurance and strength guys - have been taking this stuff and their feedback is well beyond the 10%, but it's better to keep the numbers conservative. Former lifting champs, former top athletes, accustomed to measuring their performances. They say their absolute best - their absolute maximum - is increased at least by a factor of 10%. I'm using the mountain biker's numbers of at least 10%. One guy's a weightlifter - a former record holder - and he said he could reach his max once a week - and that was the best he could do - but with this - he can do that three times a week.

Any athlete - if he can extend his stamina by just 10%? That's major!

This is just natural formulations that strictly enhance the mitochondria to maximize efficiency.

The key to cellular performance - in all cells - is found in the mitochondria. Oh, and he's got another product just for the brain - students taking tests? They have reported unbelievable results. Clarity, concentration, recall, focus, everything. Again, to maximize cellular function without none-natural formulations that always come with side effects.

There's a product certification to ensure that no prohibited ingredients are in a product - and I think it costs like $30K - and that has to be done before they want to release it - just to prove its safe for athletes. Clean performance.
 
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