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Our future QB vs Memphis

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252cane said:
I get where you a coming from but there isn’t a ward/beck type this year. Yea he still has developing to do but why can’t he work on some of those things before next season?
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I’m not saying that there is a ward/beck type there, and no, he is not this year’s Mendoza either ,but I am saying there are better types there even if we can’t get the Cincinnati Guy because he’s going to Texas Tech. There are others that are higher rated on the board, and yes, some of them may not have proven anything more than he has, but a couple of them in my opinion, have a higher upside and are less far away, even if they did not have a stellar year this year.
 
Ispyin said:
Just one man's opinion:
  • CJ Bailey is still a developmental prospect. yes perhaps he has "high upside" but he is still learning to process defenses. We need a QB who can be great in 2026 not wait til 2027
  • We should be in running for a top 5 junior/senior type based on our Cam Ward Carson Beck history with QB's. He isn't top 5 in this portal IMO - both those guys just needed some shine and change of opportunity and had almost fully polished mechanics
  • He tends to hold the ball looking for the "home run" rather than checking it down but he is not Cam Ward skill-wise to get away with it. In Miami’s offense, which relies on rhythm and quick triggers to negate pass rushes, a quarterback who takes bad sacks kills drives. In fact that is our fear if we get in 3rd and long tomorrow even with Carson- just more the INT route
  • his interceptions often come in "hero ball" situations where he forces throws into coverage when trailing - no bueno even if in theory we should't be trailing often
  • impatience against shell coverages - when teams force him to be patient and throw underneath, he gets frustrated and erratic (see Miami game in part). Bailey has not proven he has the discipline to pick them apart systematically like a veteran would. Again, developmental imo
  • give me a QB with NFL draft buzz who wants one final year to boost their stock (the Carson Beck/Cam Ward path) and get our act together at the same time, developing our room and land a monster recruiting this year on the back of Ward/Beck. And if needed, then yes, hit portal again if you haven't

    other than that I'm good

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Bullet points 2 and 6...who?
 
People here that finally got a prediction right (Mendoza) are like those scouts that find a gem and then spend the next 10 years thinking they got more than just lucky and start thinking it was skill

If you’ve got strong opinions about this kid you need to take a lap
 
Ispyin said:
I’m not saying that there is a ward/beck type there, and no, he is not this year’s Mendoza either ,but I am saying there are better types there even if we can’t get the Cincinnati Guy because he’s going to Texas Tech. There are others that are higher rated on the board, and yes, some of them may not have proven anything more than he has, but a couple of them in my opinion, have a higher upside and are less far away, even if they did not have a stellar year this year.
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Who would you prefer? And I’m not even saying Bailey should be option1
 
252cane said:
Why do you think he would be cheap? He is only a soph and his numbers are comparable if not better than the other qbs in the portal. He would be highly ranked and he will get paid
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he isn't experienced enough.

You cannot undervalue what Cam and Beck brought to the team in terms of exposure to defenses, etc. It would be a huge step back
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
he isn't experienced enough.

You cannot undervalue what Cam and Beck brought to the team in terms of exposure to defenses, etc. It would be a huge step back
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Cheap is the wrong word. he would be less money than the other top QBs in the portal. And if he comes with the same price tag then we should go for the others first, in my opinion.
 
I’ve come around a bit on Bailey so this isn’t a comment on him, but good god this Memphis defense is awful lol
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
he isn't experienced enough.

You cannot undervalue what Cam and Beck brought to the team in terms of exposure to defenses, etc. It would be a huge step back
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So you want sorsby or Hoover? They are the most experienced. Bailey has more starts than the other guys
 
252cane said:
Who would you prefer? And I’m not even saying Bailey should be option1
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I mean I would love leavitt if he really could be in position to be ready for summer camp I just will doubt it all off season because that injury can have widely different recovery periods that adjust along the way.

Sorsby seems destined to go to Texas tech but you still try imo

Hoover has Indiana heat and was a mess at times this year but imo has both a higher floor and ceiling (for 2026 - Bailey could be higher ceiling in 2027)

If we are going to roll dice I’d take a stab at mestemaker first before Bailey.

After that list I pray others enter portal. They may. I didn’t even realize pribula entered yesterday not that I want

If not then this would be the point I entertain Bailey

Keep us farrrr away from Lagway because a he’s a mess and broken despite the athletic talent but not sure he’s a great qb now or in two years.

I also want nothing to do with Raiola - I don’t think he’s a winner or a leader. He’s jeff George cosplaying mahomes
 
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The sum of the parts here vs NCST would naturally make him “better”. Still leaves a little to be desired imo. He’s at the front of the second tier of potential portal QBs imo.

Our OL could be breaking in potentially 4 new starters next year, good players but a new OL. His mobility would add a dimension I think we’ve missed a lot more than we realize with Beck but bringing in Bailey means we’d be signing a trailer for the truck to drive rather than the reverse. Which we’ve done the last two seasons and won 10 games each year with.

Make Soresby, Leavitt(if healthy) and the kid from NT say no. Then turn to Bailey.
 
Ispyin said:
I mean I would love leavitt if he really could be in position to be ready for summer camp I just will doubt it all off season because that injury can have widely different recovery periods that adjust along the way.

Sorsby seems destined to go to Texas tech but you still try imo

Hoover has Indiana heat and was a mess at times this year but imo has both a higher floor and ceiling (for 2026 - Bailey could be higher ceiling in 2027)

If we are going to roll dice I’d take a stab at mestemaker first before Bailey.

After that list I pray others enter portal. They may. I didn’t even realize pribula entered yesterday not that I want

If not then this would be the point I entertain Bailey

Keep us farrrr away from Lagway because a he’s a mess and broken despite the athletic talent but not sure he’s a great qb now or in two years.

I also want nothing to do with Raiola - I don’t think he’s a winner or a leader. He’s jeff George cosplaying mahomes
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If Raiola is our best option, bring Bailey in. At worst Bailey has shown he’s not a head case with an absolutely ridiculous level of baggage. I’d only bring in Lagway if he accepted shirting next year.
 
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