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Hurracanes said:
Serious change is coming. It’ll be Mario or Lane in the next 5-10 (or more) years depending on who it is. Miami’s story is about to change and I think perspective will change for us all. We will finally have legit reasons to be excited about our program that doesn’t include cheap gimmicks with no substance.
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If it’s Lane, will there be hookers?
 
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PIPO said:
I posted some of this on DWins thread:

“ Now, Dwins: is college football as business? Is recruiting a business? Those two go hand & hand and you can’t scheme your way to big boy wins without the talent.”

“ The ACC CoRstal - sure!! Next year - No Kenny Pickett, no Sam Howell, no UVA QB (whatever his name is). There are no QBs.”

“ Lane would look good in year one. I like him. He would be my 2nd or 3rd choice. But he has a lot of red flags. A lot!!! Also, his recruiting is very questionable. Like you said, similar to Mullen.”

“ In the end, give me Mario. Great recruiter, great person, high integrity, tireless worker, highly regarded by all. Will build a foundation & infrastructure for long term success. That’s what I want. Long term success to make up for the last 18 years.”

L - I am confident Mario is not going to fail here in terms of performing & winning the CoRstal. If there is one SOB that can fvkk with Dabo and give him a run for his money in this conference, it’s him.

Not saying he will win Championships but I don’t see him fizzling out here in Miami they way I see Lane flaming out around year 4-5.

Can Lane recruit S. Florida to keep the cup full enough of depth & athletes needed? I don’t think he can.
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Lane is a much better recruiter & coach than Mullen, that’s a lazy comparison.

And recruiting South FL is extremely overrated as a criteria for a HC. In order for Miami to ever actually getting back to being a perennial contender we have to expand the recruiting map, the focus of only ever going after South FL players is one of the reasons why we suck now.

And again, recruiting in Miami is directly tied to winning, Miami being an 8-4 team for the next 2 years won’t make us a recruiting destination just because one coach or another is here, the only way Miami starts to reel in multiple top 5-10 classes is by winning right away & the fastest way to win right away is to lean into what our current roster is built around, which is Offense & QB play.

This team is not winning 10 games next year with the current Oregon offense as it stands, from a personnel standpoint we’re at least 2 seasons away from having the kind of team that Mario needs to win in the fashion he wants. In the meantime in between time, you don’t recruit at a high level while trying to figure out how to maximize wins, you can at other programs but not at Miami.
 
Canes2082 said:
When there is an opening at Kansas or Colorado or Texas Tech how many message boards talk about it??? I’m telling you my buddy has been all over teams message boards and the uncertainty with what we are gonna do is unnerving right now.

The Blake firing sent the message because a coach is a coach no big deal but drop the hammer on the AD and people suddenly perk up
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My brother is deep in UGA boards and he even knows what’s going on with the AD search. He forwarded me the article about the money increase asking if I had seen it.
 
Hurracanes said:
Serious change is coming. It’ll be Mario or Lane in the next 5-10 (or more) years depending on who it is. Miami’s story is about to change and I think perspective will change for us all. We will finally have legit reasons to be excited about our program that doesn’t include cheap gimmicks with no substance.
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You seem super confident. You got a source?
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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This is one **** of a post. Captured exactly how I feel too.
 
Canes2082 said:
Your missing the point my friend… it’s the potential of what can be built. It’s that sleeping giant you don’t want to awaken when a competent coach and staff comes along.

Don’t let these betas fool you… we are talked about in many many schools message boards right now…they want to make fun of us but deep down it’s that nervous laughter…

It reminds me of the Foreman-Moorer fight documentary where Foreman says he was setting it up the whole fight and Moorer says “bullsh*t” you’re lying…. And he pauses to think and says slowly you’re lying… because he realizes oh crap could it actually have happened
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Nah. I love this program and you are right that we are a sleeping giant but almost everyone has forgotten that and/or just doesn’t think we are competent enough to be what we used to be. The ‘Is Miami back?’ headline is ridiculed by fanbases across the nation. Everytime they suggest as much, we **** the bed. The newest slogan was TNM, and that was a joke. Sure if we get Mario, people’s heads will turn but until then, nah. We have become the equivalent of PITT or Minnesota of yesteryear
 
JD08 said:
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A few more posts like these and I'm asking @Andrew to change the name to MensaInsight.com

Of course, then Tom Herman would be the frontrunner, because he's an actual Mensa member.
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What debt are they talking about? Richt we owe nothing and we owe Golden money maybe. Do we still owe Shannon and Coker? 😂😂. These fans throwing crap out there to make themselves feel better.
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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This makes a lot of sense. It’s tough to really gauge Mario because of the ties. I know I’ve thought about the prospects of him failing and the impossible situation that would create. I’ve almost accepted the fact Mario is gonna be the slow burn take three years to get to 10 win ACC title plateau. He could win immediately but I’m not sold that’ll happen. I could be wrong I think he’d actually recruit at an extremely high level right away. He may not beat Bama for everyone but I’d thoroughly surprised if he didn’t land top 7 classes starting next season. Either way I see the risks.
 
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Liberty City El said:
Lane is a much better recruiter & coach than Mullen, that’s a lazy comparison.

And recruiting South FL is extremely overrated as a criteria for a HC. In order for Miami to ever actually getting back to being a perennial contender we have to expand the recruiting map, the focus of only ever going after South FL players is one of the reasons why we suck now.

And again, recruiting in Miami is directly tied to winning, Miami being an 8-4 team for the next 2 years won’t make us a recruiting destination just because one coach or another is here, the only way Miami starts to reel in multiple top 5-10 classes is by winning right away & the fastest way to win right away is to lean into what our current roster is built around, which is Offense & QB play.

This team is not winning 10 games next year with the current Oregon offense as it stands, from a personnel standpoint we’re at least 2 seasons away from having the kind of team that Mario needs to win in the fashion he wants. In the meantime in between time, you don’t recruit at a high level while trying to figure out how to maximize wins, you can at other programs but not at Miami.
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You mentioned the budget and why that tends to damper our recruiting when we don’t win, but would that not change once we spend like the big boys?
 
Tampabaycane said:
What debt are they talking about? Richt we owe nothing and we owe Golden money maybe. Do we still owe Shannon and Coker? 😂😂. These fans throwing crap out there to make themselves feel better.
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www.espn.com

Judge: Golden's $3M suit vs Miami without merit

A federal judge ruled that former football coach Al Golden's $3 million breach-of-contract lawsuit against Miami was without merit.
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Golden took us to court arguing that we owed him $6M. He lost, we only paid him $2M after ****-canning him.

Pretty sure we were petty and sent him a check for $1 or something like that too.
 
Baba Yaga said:
www.espn.com

Judge: Golden's $3M suit vs Miami without merit

A federal judge ruled that former football coach Al Golden's $3 million breach-of-contract lawsuit against Miami was without merit.
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Golden took us to court arguing that we owed him $6M. He lost, we only paid him $2M after ****-canning him.

Pretty sure we were petty and sent him a check for $1 or something like that too.
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Bet his sorry a$$ cashed that $1 check
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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I think one thing Mario brings is discipline and accountability, which is something we've definitely been lacking for a long, long time. He's a leader that the players would respect and work hard for. Of course, his scheme is a concern, but I think that a cultural change from top to bottom in our program is worth that risk. Plus, I just plain old like him and he's someone who's easy to root for for a lifelong Miami fan.
 
Rd745 said:
I love all these people that say it’s a 5 year rebuild. We were ranked 2nd in the country in late November barely 2 years after Dabo executed Golden at Hard Rock.

Whoever steps into this job is staring at 9-10 wins by year two with TVD / Garcia and competent coordinators.

The infrastructure, culture, program building will take some time but there is no reason why the next coach isn’t staring at 9 wins by year 2.
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People forget we were that last Florida team to be ranked in the CFP. I know it’s seems like awhile ago, but that’s the state of all the Florida schools right now.
 
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bobbydigius said:
Nah. I love this program and you are right that we are a sleeping giant but almost everyone has forgotten that and/or just doesn’t think we are competent enough to be what we used to be. The ‘Is Miami back?’ headline is ridiculed by fanbases across the nation. Everytime they suggest as much, we **** the bed. The newest slogan was TNM, and that was a joke. Sure if we get Mario, people’s heads will turn but until then, nah. We have become the equivalent of PITT or Minnesota of yesteryear
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The “is Miami back” is touted by the media not us the fans. We all know when we can definitely say we’re back.

Nobody talks about Pitt and Minnesota on their boards when there is a job opening.

Al Golden, Manny those guys didn’t move the needle. When Richt was hired there was a collective uh oh throughout college football, a Richt did us some good but he just didn’t have enough gas left in the tank for what’s needed. We pull Mario or Lane and you watch the reaction especially from the SEC folk
 
canesbaby said:
I mean, to be honest, they do make a few good points. If true that mama is moving to Eugene this summer then sounds like it’s a wrap for us.
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It may be a wrap for us, or you can view it as how incredibly important Mario's family is to him and how coming to Miami would be a ton easier for everyone (including Mirabal's very close family). I'm not saying it will happen, but that comment only strengthens the argument that Mario's family is a clear factor.
 
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