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TimeBum said:
If his agent is smart? Absolutely. Get all the money now when they think the HC might leave and he has maximum leverage. Things could go south in a hurry (look at Dan Mullen). Golden got hired in 2010, one year later he got a contract extension when he flirted with PSU. Mark Richt got hired in 2016, immediately after the 2017 season he got a big contract extension. Happens all the time.
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And if things go well, he can demand more money from his next school. There's absolutely no reason not to play this for everything he can get.
 
PIPO said:
Root for a Utes win this weekend
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I was indifferent, but having read their message boards for a week...

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bobbydigius said:
I don’t think we scare nor make anyone nervous at this point. Our history is the only thing even keeping us mildly relevant.
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Your missing the point my friend… it’s the potential of what can be built. It’s that sleeping giant you don’t want to awaken when a competent coach and staff comes along.

Don’t let these betas fool you… we are talked about in many many schools message boards right now…they want to make fun of us but deep down it’s that nervous laughter…

It reminds me of the Foreman-Moorer fight documentary where Foreman says he was setting it up the whole fight and Moorer says “bullsh*t” you’re lying…. And he pauses to think and says slowly you’re lying… because he realizes oh crap could it actually have happened
 
Genghis Cane said:
Love how that guy said he read on ESPN that we’re in debt.

Was that a dream???? Because he conjured that up out of thin ******* air.

We are nowhere near in debt. Richt retiring, walking away, and choosing to forgo the rest of his salary helped us immensely.
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JD08 said:
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A few more posts like these and I'm asking @Andrew to change the name to MensaInsight.com

Of course, then Tom Herman would be the frontrunner, because he's an actual Mensa member.
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Now I kinda want us to land Mario just to spite these ********. Yes, I'm petty.
 
Canes2082 said:
Your missing the point my friend… it’s the potential of what can be built. It’s that sleeping giant you don’t want to awaken when a competent coach and staff comes along.

Don’t let these betas fool you… we are talked about in many many schools message boards right now…they want to make fun of us but deep down it’s that nervous laughter…
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Exactly. If Miami was truly a **** hole you wouldn’t have all these other teams boards talking about our HC search and the current guy hasn’t even been fired yet. As a team today, we scare no one but if we do hire Mario or Lane the narrative will flip instantly.
 
Hurracanes said:
Take away Mario is from Miami, for a second, and ask yourself, is he still the among the best candidates that is willing to listen to us? Absolutely! The fact that he’s even willing to listen (he’s seriously interested according to some plugged dudes) is very, very, telling about the situation.

Overall, I agree with your point about hiring the best candidate and forget the “miami connection”; however, I don’t think that concept applies with Mario. Coker, Randy, Richt (ready to retire) and Diaz were bad hires not because of the “miami connection” but because they were bad candidates to begin with.

Mario could fail miserably at Miami and no one could argue Miami was dumb for hiring him. Personally, I think Mario would build something greater than what Lane or anyone else could because of his skills, principles, experience and passion for this city and program.
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They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
 
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aelmiami said:
Exactly. If Miami was truly a **** hole you wouldn’t have all these other teams boards talking about our HC search and the current guy hasn’t even been fired yet. As a team today, we scare no one but if we do hire Mario or Lane the narrative will flip instantly.
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When there is an opening at Kansas or Colorado or Texas Tech how many message boards talk about it??? I’m telling you my buddy has been all over teams message boards and the uncertainty with what we are gonna do is unnerving right now.

The Blake firing sent the message because a coach is a coach no big deal but drop the hammer on the AD and people suddenly perk up
 
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They love to run with garbage narratives: Miami doesn't have the facilities(False), Oregon is a better program to recruit to(Totally False). Yes, Oregon has Nike Money, but Oregon is also hoping that USC doesn't make a hire worth a ****. If that happens, they are back fighting for the second tier Cali guys, and it gets worse if UDub gets it going again. On the other hand, you can build a **** good roster at Miami, even with the SEC poaching the kids that want to be bought. If you get the high end kids that want to stay home(The Duke Johnsons of the world), and combine that with good recruiting(The Miami sales pitch resonates in places like Texas, Cali and all along the east coast), you can win, and win big.
 
am1640 said:
I boggles my mind everytime I read or hear people talk about Mario's loyalty to Oregon and Knight for the HC job, wtf. Why does giving him his first P5 HC deserve more loyalty than the place that gave him an opportunity to play college ball at the highest level and win titles. That same place is the place where he started his career as a freaking coach. Every opportunity he has now started at Miami but he has to be loyal to Oregon apparently smh. Dude did his job, he's rebuilt the respectability in the Oregon job that was Helfrich turned to trash and has stock piled them with talent for the next guy. He doesn't owe them ****...he's not there stealing checks like Norvell is.
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Same people her were fighting that Golden would stay and say no to PSU. Lol dude would of left in a heart beat
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool.
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To me our problems have been evaluation and development.

When you start to win the top local recruits come here, but we miss out on SO many SoFl 3*s (that are 4*s everywhere else of course ;) ) that go elsewhere and ball out. There's multiple guys plugged into HS down here (I gather a few are coaches) who, every year without fail, highlight 3 or 4 guys that are begging the U for an offer - who we completely ignore and they go elsewhere and tear it up.

Gun to my head, Stoops is probably my top pick - he's done more with less for years and if you look at their recent results he's consistently putting guys into the NFL now. Year on year those numbers are increasing - that tells me he evaluates and develops talent, 'cos lord knows he isn't getting the cream of the crop.

As you've correctly stated, Cristobal is basically unfireable if he's given the job. He's a Jack Cust hire - homerun or strikeout.

Lane would win early, but I think he's just a toxic personality and his act would quickly wear thin. I know you want that high octane offence Xs and Os guru, but there's way too many red flags around Kiffin for me to have him high on my list.
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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I posted some of this on DWins thread:

“ Now, Dwins: is college football as business? Is recruiting a business? Those two go hand & hand and you can’t scheme your way to big boy wins without the talent.”

“ The ACC CoRstal - sure!! Next year - No Kenny Pickett, no Sam Howell, no UVA QB (whatever his name is). There are no QBs.”

“ Lane would look good in year one. I like him. He would be my 2nd or 3rd choice. But he has a lot of red flags. A lot!!! Also, his recruiting is very questionable. Like you said, similar to Mullen.”

“ In the end, give me Mario. Great recruiter, great person, high integrity, tireless worker, highly regarded by all. Will build a foundation & infrastructure for long term success. That’s what I want. Long term success to make up for the last 18 years.”

L - I am confident Mario is not going to fail here in terms of performing & winning the CoRstal. If there is one SOB that can fvkk with Dabo and give him a run for his money in this conference, it’s him.

Not saying he will win Championships but I don’t see him fizzling out here in Miami they way I see Lane flaming out around year 4-5.

Can Lane recruit S. Florida to keep the cup full enough of depth & athletes needed? I don’t think he can.
 
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Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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Well said bro
 
Liberty City El said:
They were bad candidates to begin with & it was easy to see, but guess why they still got the job anyway?

Mario’s Miami connection are not why I prefer Lane, I think Mario is a good coach, but I don’t think what he wants to do here will work in the same time frame because it’s a different dynamic than what was required at Oregon.

Also, the Miami connection for Cristobal has a back end effect that if it works could be something that maintains us being a good program for years down the line, but in the event it doesn’t work we’d be stuck with him because the emotional ties are so strong that regardless of performance he’d be an immovable object that can never be fired.

People are buying high on emotion & selling low on every other aspect, I don’t think either Mario or Lane are championship coaches, but one of them has an formula that is more translatable to the immediate future & the other is predicated on recruiting at a high level in a way that is much more difficult to do in Miami because there’s way more competition.

When USC is down (which they’ve been for the last 4 years), a program like Oregon that has upped it’s recruiting budget & is in the top 13 in spending can dominate West Coast recruiting & load up. Miami’s recruiting is directly tied to the product on the field, if we don’t win the recruits don’t come, so in order to recruit at an optimum level we have to win & win ASAP. What’s fastest way to win, (especially in the ACC)? High octane offense & high level QB play (see Wake, Pitt, etc) so I’m more inclined to lean in that direction because I believe Mario’s style play allows for teams that aren’t as good as yours to hang around in the game cause it’s more about ball & clock control.

At the end of day, I’ve heard & (already thought of) every reason on Earth plus 10 more as to why Mario is the 2nd coming of Christ himself & God help us I hope he is, but until I actually see it here, I’m just not gonna believe that’s how it happens & it’s not because of him or anything like that, I’m just not going to allow emotions to cloud my judgment & fall for fairytales. I think Mario is a great coach, but I’m not going to suddenly transform him into something I don’t think he is just because he might come here.

And I don’t think Lane is the 2nd coming either, in fact I was pretty heavily against Lane coming here like 3 years ago, but given the current circumstances & the landscape of college football I think he’s the best pick for right now. Maybe he won’t be in 2 years & if not I won’t advocate for him, but right now I think he is.

New information can present new perspectives. I’m not actually all-in on any candidate, I’ve just given who I think works for the near future & if they don’t, guess what I’ll do? Change my opinion because I’m not a stubborn fool lol
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Serious change is coming. It’ll be Mario or Lane in the next 5-10 (or more) years depending on who it is. Miami’s story is about to change and I think perspective will change for us all. We will finally have legit reasons to be excited about our program that doesn’t include cheap gimmicks with no substance.
 
am1640 said:
I boggles my mind everytime I read or hear people talk about Mario's loyalty to Oregon and Knight for the HC job, wtf. Why does giving him his first P5 HC deserve more loyalty than the place that gave him an opportunity to play college ball at the highest level and win titles. That same place is the place where he started his career as a freaking coach. Every opportunity he has now started at Miami but he has to be loyal to Oregon apparently smh. Dude did his job, he's rebuilt the respectability in the Oregon job that was Helfrich turned to trash and has stock piled them with talent for the next guy. He doesn't owe them ****...he's not there stealing checks like Norvell is.
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He was also so loyal to Golden for bringing him back to UM after being fired from FIU that it took him...how long to bounce for Bama?

Yeah I buy that loyalty argument.
 
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