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am1640 said:
I boggles my mind everytime I read or hear people talk about Mario's loyalty to Oregon and Knight for the HC job, wtf. Why does giving him his first P5 HC deserve more loyalty than the place that gave him an opportunity to play college ball at the highest level and win titles. That same place is the place where he started his career as a freaking coach. Every opportunity he has now started at Miami but he has to be loyal to Oregon apparently smh. Dude did his job, he's rebuilt the respectability in the Oregon job that was Helfrich turned to trash and has stock piled them with talent for the next guy. He doesn't owe them ****...he's not there stealing checks like Norvell is.
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What has Miami done for Mario lately? Except reject him the last two times?
 
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Hurracanes said:
Take away Mario is from Miami, for a second, and ask yourself, is he still the among the best candidates that is willing to listen to us? Absolutely! The fact that he’s even willing to listen (he’s seriously interested according to some plugged dudes) is very, very, telling about the situation.

Overall, I agree with your point about hiring the best candidate and forget the “miami connection”; however, I don’t think that concept applies with Mario. Coker, Randy, Richt (ready to retire) and Diaz were bad hires not because of the “miami connection” but because they were bad candidates to begin with.

Mario could fail miserably at Miami and no one could argue Miami was dumb for hiring him. Personally, I think Mario would build something greater than what Lane or anyone else could because of his skills, principles, experience and passion for this city and program.
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Huh? You have no idea if he's listening because he's from Miami or because he thinks it's a great opportunity. The fact he's willing to listen doesn't mean anything. Maybe he's listening to get more $$ from Oregon, or because he wants to be near his mom, or he's just trying to keep his name in the news. Ask yourself, if he's got no interest in Miami would he still be stupid not to publicly "listen"? Yes, because him showing interest will get him more money from his current job. I'm not saying he's not interested, I'm just saying your logic is flawed.

But also, he's a long shot. If I were his agent I'd tell him to play this for more money, then wait for a good SEC job to open up. I hope I'm wrong.
 
Zbrod95 said:
I’m between a rock in a hard place.

1) Kiffin is the better X’s and O’s guy compared to Cristobal but Cristobal understands you need to be elite everywhere to win unlike Kiffin and his D.

2) Mario, even though he understands you need to be elite everywhere, will lose games he shouldn’t( much like CIS god Butch) and also have protection from the Columbus clique on the BOT.

I know that Stoop won’t be here. He’s too correct of a hire for the BOT to make so this is where I’m at.
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Ur 10000000000% right about Kiffin n Mario. Kiffin is a better coach n offensive mind. Mario is an ELITE recruiter but will lose to teams he should destroy. That's a trait to thats hard to overlook being that we've lost repeatedly to UVA, UNC, GT, etc when we were massively more talented.
 
I love all these people that say it’s a 5 year rebuild. We were ranked 2nd in the country in late November barely 2 years after Dabo executed Golden at Hard Rock.

Whoever steps into this job is staring at 9-10 wins by year two with TVD / Garcia and competent coordinators.

The infrastructure, culture, program building will take some time but there is no reason why the next coach isn’t staring at 9 wins by year 2.
 
OldhamA said:
Culture is what separates the two for me.

Kiffin would be a flash-in-the-pan success, but he's never building for the future. He's also a massive knobhead who will rub people the wrong way.
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He really is. If he can win 10+ games 2x in 4 years, I'm cool with him. But that doesn't mean he's not a giant blond *****.
 
Rd745 said:
I love all these people that say it’s a 5 year rebuild. We were ranked 2nd in the country in late November barely 2 years after Dabo executed Golden at Hard Rock.

Whoever steps into this job is staring at 9-10 wins by year two with TVD / Garcia and competent coordinators.

The infrastructure, culture, program building will take some time but there is no reason why the next coach isn’t staring at 9 wins by year 2.
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Yeah, it may take years to gain consistency and program stability, but I've got a 73% chance of coaching us to 9 wins next season. So I would think anyone who can motivate kids and get the f**k out of their own way should do ok.
 
ben said:
Dude, what if @Liberty City El, under various aliases, was the most respected poster on EVERY college football board???
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TemplarCane said:
Yeah….but he was just given an extension this past December, and his bump to $4.5M. Heck, he was just given an automatic one-year extension by winning his ninth game of the season. Is he supposed to renegotiate every season, if there’s a big win (like the win over Ohio State)?
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If his agent is smart? Absolutely. Get all the money now when they think the HC might leave and he has maximum leverage. Things could go south in a hurry (look at Dan Mullen). Golden got hired in 2010, one year later he got a contract extension when he flirted with PSU. Mark Richt got hired in 2016, immediately after the 2017 season he got a big contract extension. Happens all the time.
 
djnellz said:
You know they say all college universities are created equal. But you look at me and you look at Oregon and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another school, you got a 50-50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal. So you got a 25 per cent - at best - to beat me. And then you add Alonzo Highsmith and the rest of the Columbus High Mafia to the mix, your chances of keeping Mario drastically go down. You see, the three way at Miami you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning. But I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning cause Phil Knight knows he can't keep Mario and he's not even gonna try. So Oregon, you take your 33 and 1/3 chance, minus my 25 per cent chance and you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of keeping your coach. But then you take my 75 per cent chance of taking your coach if it goes one on one and then add the 66 and 2/3 per cent chance, I got a 141 and 2/3 chance of taking your coach. See Oregon, the numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you in keeping Cristobal. See, but I'm gonna break it down for you, ladies. Would you rather be at Miami or would you rather be at Oregon?View attachment 161801
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Dwinstitles said:
Atlduck1 got some holes in that argument

Loyalty (miami) Integrity, commitment, family (Miami), relationships (Miami)

How dumb are these Oregon fans talking about this? Are they not realizing most of those things are in Miami?
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Everyone is worried about moving his mom in the summer for a decision that will be made by January.
 
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When USC rises, Oregon will go back to being the 2nd/3rd best team in the PAC 12. What took Mario 3 years at Oregon, he can do in 1 at Miami.

This is not just about the football team and facilities. It’s about marketing power, about closeness and access to market movers. On and on.

If Miami does what it says it will do, then it’s not even close five years from now. And in Miami’s favor. But will they execute?
 
Zbrod95 said:
Lol

There’s already been discussions. @Sebastianspipe @Cribby @Boarcane and anybody connected have already said this. What they don’t know is that the Columbus High clique that went to school with him are leading this. A guy from Miami doesn’t want to be in Oregon. Why do you think there was USC rumors? Because Miami wasn’t an open job yet. Does all that mean it happens? Who knows. Maybe him and the new AD don’t mesh or wants Kiffin or Stoops more. Either or if we offer him what he wants and he’s in agreement with the amount of the 20-30 million annually that Frenk is committing that’ll go to recruiting then he’ll be here.
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Mario’s boys are also close to high school age and the Columbus guys love to send their kids there too
 
OldhamA said:
At the end of the day, the corpse of Mark Richt went 10-3 here.

I will never, ever believe that the Hurricanes are irrelevant. It just takes one good HC to get this rolling - as much as that pains most of College football.
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The college football media was splooging all over themselves when we were top 5. Gameday. Kirk calling the games two weeks in a row. It was wild. And the country ate it up
 
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