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407cane said:
We faced 1 team this year that had more talen than us

and we lost that along with 4 others.

if you want to nitpick and pretend that my usage of the word "consistent" means EVERY SINGLE TIME which is wrong and clearly not what I meant then fine.

but several (3-4-5) times per season he's beating teams that have more talent than him. that's called "consistent"
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But he's not doing it 3-5 times a year.

He beat Okie St. this year. They are more talented. But lost to Oklahoma, Baylor, and Iowa. So, no, not 3-5 times a year.
 
reformedsteven said:
But he's not doing it 3-5 times a year.

He beat Okie St. this year. They are more talented. But lost to Oklahoma, Baylor, and Iowa. So, no, not 3-5 times a year.
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I provided 6 years worth and you're talking about this year to prove a point lmao

you said he hasn't done it since 2017, he has.

you're being petty which is fine. but you're also wrong about it
 
reformedsteven said:
The name is Steven.....don't be a disrespectful. Have an adult conversation.

The argument isn't what he has done FOR ISU and where he has brought them from because the same argument could be made for someone like Al Golden and what he did at Temple.

The argument is "Matt Campbell consistently beats more talented teams". And that is simply not true since 2017. 2017, ISU was great and Campbell was an up and coming young coach. But since 2017, they have not consistently beaten more talented teams.

that's the argument. now prove that argument wrong with W-L's.
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The Al Golden comparison is a poor one. Temple was kicked out of the Big East for being so bad. The program dropped to G5 and joined the MAC, and Golden padded the schedule with weaker OOC opponents. Temple had one minor East Coast bowl game where they played a bad UCLA team tough. The names Temple (bad) and UCLA (good) made Golden’s reputation. He never beat anyone of consequence at Temple.

Campbell isn’t Urban Meyer at Utah but still has a number of wins over Top 5, Top 10 teams.
 
reformedsteven said:
"more talented teams"

2021 TCU more talented?
2021 Texas more talented?

2020 UR Baylor more talented?
2020 UR Texas Tech more talented?
2020 UR WVU more talented?

2019 UR TCU, UR UWV, UR Texas Tech all more talented?


Get outta here LOL.
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again you seem to be under the impression that AP ranking defines a talent level. I don't think you understand football enough for me to keep going

I stated very clearly (which your choosing to leave off) that all those teams were equal in talent or more talented than Iowa state, and the fact that you think texas is less talented than iowa state tells me all I need to know. I'm going at it with a brick wall now so i'll stop posting, have a good night
 
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reformedsteven said:
The name is Steven.....don't be a disrespectful. Have an adult conversation.

The argument isn't what he has done FOR ISU and where he has brought them from because the same argument could be made for someone like Al Golden and what he did at Temple.

The argument is "Matt Campbell consistently beats more talented teams". And that is simply not true since 2017. 2017, ISU was great and Campbell was an up and coming young coach. But since 2017, they have not consistently beaten more talented teams.

that's the argument. now prove that argument wrong with W-L's.
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Have you been to Ames? Almost every team on their schedule is more talented than ISU. The past few years have been different because of a QB, TE, and a RB. They’ve had seven players drafted in the past 10 years and he has beaten Oklahoma twice. He may not be flashy but his teams are well coached and compete every week.
 
It will be interesting to see him replace their mainstay players of the last 4-5 years
 
407cane said:
I provided 6 years worth and you're talking about this year to prove a point lmao

you said he hasn't done it since 2017, he has.

you're being petty which is fine. but you're also wrong about it
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In an earlier post, I shared all the wins and losses that ISU had against teams ranked higher than they were. There wasn't a consistent pattern of wins vs higher ranked teams since 2017. I was just using 2021 as an example meaning "2021 is like all the other years since 2017".
 
reformedsteven said:
In Riley's defense, while at OU, he had the most talented team in the conference so it would be hard for him to consistently beat more talented teams.
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100%. He hasn‘t had to outcoach a better HC/team very often.

0-3 in the CFP (vs $EC), 1-1 vs Urban/OSU, mostly because he struggled to build a competent defense and OU wasn’t as physical.
 
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TemplarCane said:
100%. He hasn‘t had to outcoach a better HC/team very often.

0-3 in the CFP (vs $EC), 1-1 vs Urban/OSU, mostly because he struggled to build a competent defense and OU wasn’t as physical.
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And it's going to be the same song for Riley in the Pac-12 especially when Mario comes home.
 
reformedsteven said:
"more talented teams"

2021 TCU more talented?
2021 Texas more talented?

2020 UR Baylor more talented?
2020 UR Texas Tech more talented?
2020 UR WVU more talented?

2019 UR TCU, UR UWV, UR Texas Tech all more talented?


Get outta here LOL.
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According to recruiting rankings, all except Texas Tech had more talent
 
Mackmiller974 said:
We would be foolish to not make a run at Matt Campbell
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I wouldn’t think he‘d be interested. I don‘t buy into the ‘Miami guy‘ routine but think Campbell is like Fickell. A Midwest guy who’s next job is a bigger B1G job or ND.

Would not shock me if ND hired Campbell, if for some reason Fickell declined or isn‘t offered.
 
reformedsteven said:
yeah, because all the recruiting rankings agree on each prospect. That's why I used poll rankings. Poll rankings are way more accurate than recruiting rankings. Unless you really thing Mark Pope is a 5*.
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Recruiting rankings for single players is a crapshoot. When it comes to team rankings, they’re a pretty decent indicator for overall team talent and results.
 
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reformedsteven said:
yeah, because all the recruiting rankings agree on each prospect. That's why I used poll rankings. Poll rankings are way more accurate than recruiting rankings. Unless you really thing Mark Pope is a 5*.
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Lmao you gotta be trolling at this point . Pitt and NC State were both ranked higher than us when we played . Are they more talented than us ? Did we “beat a more talented team” when we played them because they had a ranking next to their name ?
 
reformedsteven said:
In an earlier post, I shared all the wins and losses that ISU had against teams ranked higher than they were. There wasn't a consistent pattern of wins vs higher ranked teams since 2017. I was just using 2021 as an example meaning "2021 is like all the other years since 2017".
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You’re the only one saying “higher ranked” he said more talented

Higher ranked does not always = more talented . It’s a pretty simple concept to understand
 
jjacks93 said:
You’re the only one saying “higher ranked” he said more talented

Higher ranked does not always = more talented . It’s a pretty simple concept to understand
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I agree. But on a different post I said, poll rankings is probably the most accurate way to gauge talent. I mean, recruiting rankings isn't unless you think Mark Pope is a 5*.
 
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