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SayWhat said:
I would disagee due to the breaks and you don't have anywhere near the same distance travelled.

Don't get me wrong, basketball is no slouch, but there's a reason why you don't see players with that height running track and field. Your body isn't meant to do that at that size.

Water Polo, cross country skiing, wrestling, and a few others take mare cardio than most anything. ****, rowing, rugby, Australian rules, and toss in iron men or ultra runners.

Lots of sports require high endurance. They aren't all interchangeable either. Anywhere there's greater muscle mass and size though, endurance will be an issue. I was a collegiate soccer player and any sport was easy endurance wise. One that actually gave me shin splints was sand volleyball. I never got into baseball, but any other sport I could hang with varsity level athletes with ease. I just preferred soccer.
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I played soccer for the first time in 10 years two weeks ago. I had pain in muscles I didn’t know existed.

A good profesional player will run 6 to 7 miles per game.

You’re right.
 
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This is an intersting piece IMO. Lots of sports would offer various advantages, but give me the ability to almost see plays unfold in slow motion like the best players in the world, that's the key component.

Check out how Ronaldinho used to set up players and make them foolish. Insane quicks, amazing touch, but he knew if he did this his opponent would do this and how the others all around him would react. Dude was the definition of playing chess while those around him were playing checkers while being seven to ten moves ahead of them.
 
When I was I high school we had a day where all the sports switched practice. No one could finish the wrestling practice. They were walking tall for a week until the swimmers found out that they weren’t included. Swimmers win.
 
pacusmc said:
The US has the best athletes in the world. Unfortunately none of them are playing soccer. If our best athletes played we would be a problem.
Over half the team out there would be running 4.3 forty’s down the field and jumping 37” verts on corner kick headers. I know that skill and touch have great deal to do with the game. But no excuse for a dude like Messi to be outrunning everybody.

One thing the US always has is golkeepers. If you need dude that’s 6’4 230 can jump and is going to charge a defender, we got a bunch of those dudes.
If all the kids that played football or ran track would play soccer they’re would be a lot of millionaires in sofla.
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Why do you feel the US has the best athletes in the world? Wheres the proof?
What sport is dominated by Americans? Best facilities? arguably but probably.
Hockey isnt dominated by Americans
Soccer isnt dominated by Americans
Baseball isnt even dominated by Americans
Ill give you basketball but thats a slim margin.
Its a BS myth that Americans have the best athletes. Ronaldo, Messi, Ibra, Alaba, Sergie can all go toe to toe with ANY American athlete with no problem.
 
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Mcanes305 said:
Why do you feel the US has the best athletes in the world? Wheres the proof?
What sport is dominated by Americans? Best facilities? arguably but probably.
Hockey isnt dominated by Americans
Soccer isnt dominated by Americans
Baseball isnt even dominated by Americans
Ill give you basketball but thats a slim margin.
Its a BS myth that Americans have the best athletes. Ronaldo, Messi, Ibra, Alaba, Sergie can all go toe to toe with ANY American athlete with no problem.
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Murica!!! Not even close. Like I said, our best athletes ain’t playing soccer. Yet.
 

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OriginalGatorHater said:
They aren't good technically because we have some of our worst pro athletes playing the sports. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said the kids that play soccer are the ones that couldn't play a skill position in football. My coach used to point to the soccer team all the time and say to the kids acting like pussies. If you want to be a ***** go join those foot **** over there. If Kyrie Irving, Isiah Thomas, Lebron, D Rose, Marshawn Lynch, Saquan Barkley, Giuce, Chris Harris, Marcus peters, etc. all played soccer growing up and America funded soccer teams instead of AAU and 7 on 7 teams we would absolutely obliterate every other country just like every sport we actually play. Just look at the UFC when America didn't care about it the Brazilians dominated then when America got involved(and we still don't have our elite athletes playing) we began to dominate. We have all but 2 of the championship belts and Brazil has 0.
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Outside of Basketball theres no sport dominated by Americans (and its really only a handful of Americans that dominate). So your theory is *****. American top athletes dont dominate their sport right now....not baseball, not hockey and again, basketball you take out 5-7 guys and its a level field.

Lets call Soccer and Football a push....the American top Athletes picking everything else dont dominate the other sports chosen by everyone else picking everything else.

PS: Dont be ***** and start naming female sports to back up your lame *** argument
 
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pacusmc said:
I’m well aware. I’ve played all my life. If you think that Michael Bradley and Landon Donovan are at the top of of the athletic food chain in the US then I don’t know what to tell you.
Please explain why the most played youth sport in American isn’t getting world class results. We have great facilities coaching nutritional and training standards.
Another problem is that kids in other countries are playing barefoot on concrete and dreaming of becoming the next superstar to take their family out of a favela or garbage dump ghetto.
But we have a bunch of middle class kids crying cause they don’t have 200$ cleats. Travel soccer ain’t for broke kids. Soccer doesn’t have bag men or 7 on 7/AAU coaches getting broke off to take a poor kid across the country for a tournament. But they should cause its 100% legal. Problem is mls ain’t paying nba or nfl money and European teams are only just starting to have academies in the US and even those cost a lot of money.
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Athletically Landon Donovan is no slouch...no joke. I know he looks like a noodle but dude is a legit athlete. Back in the day i was at a training facility in the northeast where he held several of their records (a combine type facility). I dont remember specific numbers but he's a legit top tier athlete. no joke. Caught EVERYONE by suprise
 
prinmemo said:
Why do people feel the need to make insulting comments? If you don’t like it, fine. Don’t see the need to be so expressive about it.

I know some people that think football is a dumb sport with no strategy that requires no brains. They don’t typically go out of their way to bash the sport.

If you don’t care about soccer, fine. We don’t care. Let the rest of us talk about it without having to deal with trolls.
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Aren't there some WC soccer sites to exchange your drivel on?..
 
SayWhat said:


This is an intersting piece IMO. Lots of sports would offer various advantages, but give me the ability to almost see plays unfold in slow motion like the best players in the world, that's the key component.

Check out how Ronaldinho used to set up players and make them foolish. Insane quicks, amazing touch, but he knew if he did this his opponent would do this and how the others all around him would react. Dude was the definition of playing chess while those around him were playing checkers while being seven to ten moves ahead of them.
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Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Although he is clearly a great athlete, his skills and mental abilities are what sets Ronaldo apart.
 
prinmemo said:
Athleticism isn’t the most important trait in soccer. Technical skills, knowing where to be and when to be there, and instincts are all much more important. Athleticism helps, but it is worthless without the other thingsz

USA teams are known for being quite athletic, but not very good technically.
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Only skill needed in soccer, is where to put your head..
 
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prinmemo said:
Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Although he is clearly a great athlete, his skills and mental abilities are what sets Ronaldo apart.
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Exactly.

I will say his straight sprint needs a lot of work to put it mildly. The reason he runs like that though is to be able to change direction quickly. I bet if he got a real track coach and focused on sprinting in a straight line he could make a pretty **** good sprinter as well.
 
Mcanes305 said:
Why do you feel the US has the best athletes in the world? Wheres the proof?
What sport is dominated by Americans? Best facilities? arguably but probably.
Hockey isnt dominated by Americans
Soccer isnt dominated by Americans
Baseball isnt even dominated by Americans
Ill give you basketball but thats a slim margin.
Its a BS myth that Americans have the best athletes. Ronaldo, Messi, Ibra, Alaba, Sergie can all go toe to toe with ANY American athlete with no problem.
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Because ‘MURICA!
 
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prinmemo said:
The top basketball players under 6’5” would be great soccer players.

I disagree on the athleticism. The top soccer players in the world are very athletic - jumping and running, specifically.

On speed, Bale and Messi probably run sub 4.30 40s, though pure speed is less essential in soccer because you never ever run in a straight line. Change of direction and agility combined with ball control are more important.

Take a look at Ronaldo and Bale’s bycicle kicks in the Champions League and tell me that’s not athleticism.
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Messi, even with the roids isn't running a 4.2 something. Come the f on. Laser time him and mid 4.4s would be about right. Maybe a 4.5.
 
TheUBack said:
Messi, even with the roids isn't running a 4.2 something. Come the f on. Laser time him and mid 4.4s would be about right. Maybe a 4.5.
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I tend to agree, but the shuttle would be insane. If there was one person ever in the history of soccer I would love to see run a shuttle, it would be Ronaldinho. His footspeed and ability to change direction (granted with a ball in tow) was magical. Different sports, but a comparison in football would be Barry Sanders. Both could fake you out in a phone booth.
 
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