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OT: Joe Burrow opinion

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Some of you guys really like Herbert? Word?

As a Dolphins fan, I don't want that stiff, robotic dude anywhere close to the team. I'd take Burrow or Tua all day over Herbert. So would pretty much all NFL scouts.
 
Burrow and all the other talented players in that offense are living breathing proof of the importance of a modern diverse well-designed offensive system.

The before and after is absolutely astounding. Any of the dumb ***** who try to underestimate the importance of a great system and how a bad system can make very good talent look inferior need to try to wrap their 82 IQs around 2018 and 2019 LSU.
 
He throws into coverage and hopes his guy out physicals the opponent. Not sure that works in the league
 
The Franchise said:
Burrow and all the other talented players in that offense are living breathing proof of the importance of a modern diverse well-designed offensive system.

The before and after is absolutely astounding. Any of the dumb ***** who try to underestimate the importance of a great system and how a bad system can make very good talent look inferior need to try to wrap their 82 IQs around 2018 and 2019 LSU.
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Just look at 2018 Joe and 2019 Joe. Burrow would’ve been a 5th/ 6th rounder last year and now he’s probably the first QB off the board and looks to be the best pure QB prospect to come out from a draft class standpoint since Andrew.
 
Zbrod95 said:
You didn’t watch the Bama game dog...
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Surprisingly I actually did dog...Was flipping back n forth between ours and LSU Bama..since I recorded ours I watched a lot of that on. What I saw was probably the worst Defense saban has had in years..especially that young secondary. A lot of self inflicted mistakes that LSU feasted off..Blown coverages, poor angles, Tua red zone fumble, then his pick in bad territory before the half. Then diggams had a pick negated because of too many players on the field..tua wasn’t sharp and was definitely hurting out there. Mad respect for him..but if you think burrow or Tua are 1st overall pick talents, ultimately that’s your opinion. But that’s definitely not what I get from watching them. Elite elite line play and WRs around both guys
 
JTKoval said:
He throws into coverage and hopes his guy out physicals the opponent. Not sure that works in the league
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There’s a difference in trusting your receivers and putting the ball on the money and chuck and duck. Tua chuck and ducks hence why he’s just above 50% against defenses that are worth their weight. Joe doesn’t have 3 first rounders to throw too.
 
305to954 said:
Surprisingly I actually did dog...Was flipping back n forth between ours and LSU Bama..since I recorded ours I watched a lot of that on. What I saw was probably the worst Defense saban has had in years..especially that young secondary. A lot of self inflicted mistakes that LSU feasted off..Blown coverages, poor angles, Tua red zone fumble, then his pick in bad territory before the half. Then diggams had a pick negated because of too many players on the field..tua wasn’t sharp and was definitely hurting out there. Mad respect for him..but if you think burrow or Tua are 1st overall pick talents, ultimately that’s your opinion. But that’s definitely not what I get from watching them. Elite elite line play and WRs around both guys
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“Tua was hurt!” Tua plays like that against any defense worth their weight and lol at Burrow having elite WR’s...just because they were top 100 guys out of high school doesn’t mean they were elite.
 
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Zbrod95 said:
“Tua was hurt!” Tua plays like that against any defense worth their weight and lol at Burrow having elite WR’s...just because they were top 100 guys out of high school doesn’t mean they were elite.
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I know I said everyone can have a opinion earlier..but this one of yours..just dumb lol..tua just had surgery 3weeks ago, did you see the way he was moving during and after? Plus weeks of no practice so yea he was rusty..then anyone who thinks van Jefferson, terrace Marshall, little number 22 and jamar chase aren’t elite at the college level shouldn’t be allowed to share that opinion with anybody..but have at it. Those guys make plays all day in traffic, tough catches and Rac
 
305to954 said:
I know I said everyone can have a opinion earlier..but this one of yours..just dumb lol..tua just had surgery 3weeks ago, did you see the way he was moving during and after? Plus weeks of no practice so yea he was rusty..then anyone who thinks van Jefferson, terrace Marshall, little number 22 and jamar chase aren’t elite at the college level shouldn’t be allowed to share that opinion with anybody..but have at it. Those guys make plays all day in traffic, tough catches and Rac
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Lulz at this entire post...legit lulz. Those boys look elite because Joe and Brady. They’re talented dudes but they are not elite by any stand point.
 
cctopten said:
Burrow hurts tua herbert in that order
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Nah fam..I’ honestly would touch any of the QBs in this class with a top 10 pick. I don’t think tua , Herbert, or Joe would be complete bust but I don’t think they are lifting a entire franchise. Each one has to go to a good situation. Probably even sit some games befor thrown in..but my order would be
1.)Burrow late 1st early 2nd
2.) Herbert late 1st early 2nd
3.) Tua, depends on his measurables. Imo he’s not better than Kyler was and if he measures under 6feet I’d be worried about taking him. Bet early 2nd RD
4.) Fromm late 2nd, but I think someone might fall in love, turn on the tape and talk to coaches then take this kid in the 1st. I like the leadership this kid shows. He is my sleeper. I think the Skill talent around him and system this year is world apart from what tua and burrow benefit from..just think his favorite target is Cager lol..if I was Picking late/mid in the 1st And the situation was right (bears/titans/chargers ) I’m thinking hard on taking this kid
 
duke4heisman said:
He looks even more like the comedian from Half Baked.....lol
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Haha. That's pretty good. Everytime I see him though I think he looks like if a few things broke the wrong way that he very easily could be just another white trash opioid addict from Bumblefuk, Ohio.

Joey has a disease not an addiction!!! It all started when that god**** doctor gave him percocet after that knee surgery!

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305to954 said:
Nah fam..I’ honestly would touch any of the QBs in this class with a top 10 pick. I don’t think tua , Herbert, or Joe would be complete bust but I don’t think they are lifting a entire franchise. Each one has to go to a good situation. Probably even sit some games befor thrown in..but my order would be
1.)Burrow late 1st early 2nd
2.) Herbert late 1st early 2nd
3.) Tua, depends on his measurables. Imo he’s not better than Kyler was and if he measures under 6feet I’d be worried about taking him. Bet early 2nd RD
4.) Fromm late 2nd, but I think someone might fall in love, turn on the tape and talk to coaches then take this kid in the 1st. I like the leadership this kid shows. He is my sleeper. I think the Skill talent around him and system this year is world apart from what tua and burrow benefit from..just think his favorite target is Cager lol..if I was Picking late/mid in the 1st And the situation was right (bears/titans/chargers ) I’m thinking hard on taking this kid
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It's not about what you think it's about perception of need. Bengals, jets, titans, bears, dolphins, falcons, broncos all need QB's asap. Nobody is passing on tua or burrow hurts or herbert. And besides teams picking late 1st round wont be taking a qb because they did good during the season. You really think a gm of a losing franchise is going to say naw we can get a qb later in the draft. Losing fanbases want QBs
 
cctopten said:
It's not about what you think it's about perception of need. Bengals, jets, titans, bears, dolphins, falcons, broncos all need QB's asap. Nobody is passing on tua or burrow hurts or herbert. And besides teams picking late 1st round wont be taking a qb because they did good during the season. You really think a gm of a losing franchise is going to say naw we can get a qb later in the draft. Losing fanbases want QBs
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I think a lot of franchises would be better off avoiding the conclusion of your point. If a QB is not worth The value of the pick talent wise, then why reach and take him. Especially in the top 10 picks. That’s how u end up with jay cutler, Tribiusky and many many others. No QB In this draft is worth a top ten pic imo. But your right, the trend will continue and the Dolphins and others will be stuck with another Ryan T situation for reaching lol
 
305to954 said:
I think a lot of franchises would be better off avoiding the conclusion of your point. If a QB is not worth The value of the pick talent wise, then why reach and take him. Especially in the top 10 picks. That’s how u end up with jay cutler, Tribiusky and many many others. No QB In this draft is worth a top ten pic imo. But your right, the trend will continue and the Dolphins and others will be stuck with another Ryan T situation for reaching lol
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Your logic is based on hindsight. I rather fail with a top prospect than a 2nd or 3rd rounder. If you dont shoot you cant score. If any of the top QBs are available you take your favorite one. Actually what your saying is what the dolphins did last year lol lamar Jackson or Patrick mahomes wasnt worth a top pick lol. One more time, you cant score if you dont shoot.
 
Zbrod95 said:
Don’t know how popular this is but Joe is probably the best pure QB prospect since Andrew Luck. I’ve never seen a QB shred Saban through the air like that at Bama.

EDIT: from a draft class standpoint if you couldn’t already figure it out.
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He's going to enjoy life in Miami.
 
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