BoxingRobes
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Where did he said he was going to bad mouth anyone?
People are stretching the comment he made and quickly deleted in order to blame everyone equally. That’s what people do now. They feel compelled to blame everyone every time there’s a beef instead of focusing on the actual wrongdoer. It’s an odd phenomenon that has developed in society where blame must be split.
Either that, or there’s something else in play where Ivings is catching more heat than the people who were blatantly wrong and started the entire beef. It’s kind of like how Banda is now everyone’s recruiting heel on the Recruiting Board because Rumph caught a bunch of criticism for missing on all the kids he coached at the POS school in Broweird.
Tad, you’re one of my favorite writers on here. I, too, don’t give a crud about either side in this dopey beef. In fact, upon further reflection, I’m actually a little embarrassed that I’ve penned so many posts in this thread about a few witless carbuncles I care nothing about.I think you're pretty much correct in your assessment of instant equivocation being a cultural phenomenon that is beyond problematic.
I think for me personally and in instances where I have no vested interest like this then it plays out like this though:
You see the school (coaches/volunteers/police/whatever) initially seem completely in the wrong and then acting ridiculous on social media.
You see Ivins with the chance to come off completely in the right (to anyone that isn't already preciously biased or is just going by the assumed facts they have at hand).
You see Ivins eff it up by making that comment and opening the door for him to now be attacked.
You lose any sympathies you may have previously had for him by his stupid response and muddying the situation and you just say "eff both parties here" and you move on.
Fair? Nope. A lazy assessment? Probably. But it's the dangers in current society of an aggrieved party not handling themselves in the most advantageous or even proper ways when they react to the wrongdoer or wrongdoings.
You really don’t think that’s a reasonable inference from his quote?Where did he said he was going to bad mouth anyone?
You really don’t think that’s a reasonable inference from his quote?
I'm reading well enough...so much so...that I know that isn't what he even remotely meant and the fact that this thread is mostly directed at that is why I know people are just parroting nonsense they are seeing in posts here.
If you really think Ivins was going to maliciously give poor reviews of players to All-Star committees, we can't even have a discussion here. The real discussion to be had is about Miami Northwestern and whatever they are trying to prove. The only ones really hurting the kids here are the MNW officials who thought it'd be cute to get the free PR guys escorted out of the event by police officers that were there for the student-athletes.
People are stretching the comment he made and quickly deleted in order to blame everyone equally. That’s what people do now. They feel compelled to blame everyone every time there’s a beef instead of focusing on the actual wrongdoer. It’s an odd phenomenon that has developed in society where blame must be split.
Either that, or there’s something else in play where Ivings is catching more heat than the people who were blatantly wrong and started the entire beef. It’s kind of like how Banda is now everyone’s recruiting heel on the Recruiting Board because Rumph caught a bunch of criticism for missing on all the kids he coached at the POS school in Broweird.
They won a title. That don't make a **** of a difference. That doesn't equal you having a fully loaded team nor does that say the same for the district. You guys get caught up on that So Florida **** too much.
At one time. When you looked up recruiting rankings. You would see plenty of names in the top 100 in the nation from the Miami area. Now you just see IMG and Fort Lauderdale.
Outside of Fleming. Whom on that roster is looking at going to a P5 this year? 3 guys from MNW this year are in the top 150 in the state. 2 of which will end up at some low level college.
I'm not even counting James Cook but it doesn't look like we get whom we want from MNW. Since taking the big MNW class under Randy. We've landed 1 top 50 player in the State from MNW. 8 others went elsewhere. Place blame how you see fit but we don't get who we want from there.
EXACTLYJust another example of how social media has become a blight on our society
A Suspended Steel Cage MatchIvins and the AD or coach should just fight to the death.
Ok. Like I’ve said, the issue was with the AD’s lack of professionalism but after that the Warden dude injected race into it and Ivins was good, in my opinion, until that quote. I don’t have an agenda beyond people in the situation doing what’s right. I guess I just have a different opinion on it than you. No disrespect intended.If you have an agenda, you can manipulate anything the man said to support your argument. But that doesn't mean its what he said or what he meant.
Jesus christ. Maybe I just dont understand this whole you ****ed my girl so i sodomized your sister thing everyone seems to focus on. So I'd love clarification. Chain of events. #1 Andrew gets escorted out of an open scrimmage by the police (5 of them)at the request of the ad or whoever else on the staff of mnw. Clearly that's extreme & they wanted to remind him of his place in the pecking order. At the least very petty on their part. Now as a rebuttal Andrew gets into a children's arguement and says that because of what happened hes gonna give **** write ups to CHILDREN who ATTEND mnw... does that cover the bases in a quick synopsis minus the whole racial component the other piece of **** threw in? Does right? So what you're saying is Andrew is perfectly in the right to affect the future of these CHILDREN no matter how minuscule it actually may, because the STAFF of mnw ****ed him first? Whoooo. The atrocities that have been done to mankind that you apparently find irrelevant by that theory is pretty **** sad. But an agenda is the guns you choose to stick with right... unless this is his way of trying to force kids to transfer out of mnw than I cant see how that works. Because these children hes affecting have nothing to do with what has been done to him. Ever heard the saying two wrongs dont make a right...People aren't even reading the tweets at this point. Just parroting bad takes.
Facts - MNW had FIVE (5...F-I-V-E) police officers escort a recruiting reporter out of a scrimmage because he didn't have the proper credentials after being invited by the coaching staff.
If you are even focusing on anything Ivins said, you're a weirdo with an agenda. The fact that some here are twisting and turning it into some act of retribution by Ivins is some feminine ****.
He said if they ask him for his opinions do they think **** actually give some glowing review... that's not an assumption brother.
How is he supposed to give any review if he cant watch them. His wording is 100% wrong but the point is valid.
Jesus christ. Maybe I just dont understand this whole you ****ed my girl so i sodomized your sister thing everyone seems to focus on. So I'd love clarification. Chain of events. #1 Andrew gets escorted out of an open scrimmage by the police (5 of them)at the request of the ad or whoever else on the staff of mnw. Clearly that's extreme & they wanted to remind him of his place in the pecking order. At the least very petty on their part. Now as a rebuttal Andrew gets into a children's arguement and says that because of what happened hes gonna give **** write ups to CHILDREN who ATTEND mnw... does that cover the bases in a quick synopsis minus the whole racial component the other piece of **** threw in? Does right? So what you're saying is Andrew is perfectly in the right to affect the future of these CHILDREN no matter how minuscule it actually may, because the STAFF of mnw ****ed him first? Whoooo. The atrocities that have been done to mankind that you apparently find irrelevant by that theory is pretty **** sad. But an agenda is the guns you choose to stick with right... unless this is his way of trying to force kids to transfer out of mnw than I cant see how that works. Because these children hes affecting have nothing to do with what has been done to him. Ever heard the saying two wrongs dont make a right...