- Dec 30, 2015
Dany shows mercy only to those who call her queen. If you don't want to get on the Targaryen train, you're getting slaughtered, or burned alive or fed to dragons or crucified.
Yes she was broken for sure. I'm not saying I didn't see it coming. How many times did they discuss whether she was like her father or nit. We didn't know 100% either way. I'm just saying it was weird showing her composed and only killing soliders for the battle and then once they surrendered, her going ape ****. If she had come out from the very beginning of the battle burning everything and everyone then it would have played better to her having snapped already in the previous episode.I didn’t see what you previously said, but when I saw Dany’s face and the way she almost fell stumbling as she turned to walk away after her most loyal friend and confidant Missandei did not receive mercy and was instead beheaded in front of her as she yelled, “burn this bi$%h down”, I knew she had snapped. When she was shown to not be eating nor accepting visitors, I knew she had snapped. And when Dany stepped to Jon offering up some arse, which would’ve signified they’re continued relationship and love interest was rebuffed, as she stepped back and stared at him, I knew she had snapped. When she threatened Tyrion for the last time, I knew she was gonna snap.
This season the show went out of its way to hammer forth the importance of old relationships and having family. So much time was spent on connections between people (the Mountain even disobeyed Cersei and Qyburn to settle a long time feud with his brother Hound), but was also shown was Dany’s lack of familial connection and loved ones. They showed the impacts on her of Sir Jorah, Missandei, and her last bastion of hope of a connection with Jon all die out.
I knew she’d snap.
I feel what you are saying, but I must have missed her composure. She was fighting and slaying hard like everyone else. She had to kill those able to kill her before she could move onto those who couldn’t. I don’t believe that she fully intended to massacre them, but that bell backfired and triggered the complete opposite of what Tyrion intended. He betrayed her and she betrayed him.Yes she was broken for sure. I'm not saying I didn't see it coming. How many times did they discuss whether she was like her father or nit. We didn't know 100% either way. I'm just saying it was weird showing her composed and only killing soliders for the battle and then once they surrendered, her going ape ****. If she had come out from the very beginning of the battle burning everything and everyone then it would have played better to her having snapped already in the previous episode.
Dany told Varys she would burn him alive if he ever betrayed her, why is this so silly to you that he was burned alive? Littlefinger and Varys started the whole game of thrones. The Stark girls got their justice against Littlefinger and the Targaryen girl got her justice with Varys. Varys wasn't a loyal good person. He was a leach that hid behind the "for the good of the realm" BS. He deserved to burn and any other Queen or King would have executed him as well. Nothing silly about it at all. The Red Women told him he would die in this country.I think a lot of what is happening with Dany is now just retcon'ing and trying to make the square peg fit the round hole. Her destroying the scorpions, Iron Fleet, Golden Company, Kings Landing Guard...all perfectly fine. Inch-by-inch destroying Kings Landing and all of its innocent civilians flies in the face of her character for the entire series up to that point where she says fvck it and makes a move on the Red Keep. Her killing treasonists, masters, and dissenters has a place in this universe...the innocent...you're right, it doesn't make a ton of sense.
The end of Varys seems very silly and was a microcosm of the plot issues the writers face. Varys is a nuanced character driven by dialogue...you don't really get that by the end.
HaHa big reach here. Jon executed others as well for not only betraying.........but murdering him. Stop reaching-Jon took revenge on a dude by chopping off his head, as the guy begged for mercy.
-He also hung an 11 year old boy from a noose for betraying him.
-By the show's logic, as a Targaryen, Jon is one case of blue balls from slaughtering millions of innocent people.
Interesting. Thanks for that perspective.I thought the same w/ Varys initially, but it makes sense when you look at it from the perspective that he knew she was burning KL down in a couple of days, and he didn't have time to plot and play games. His whole "for the realm" bit forced his hand, and he knew it could/would cost him his life if Jon and T didn't go along.
Jon doesn't want it. He probably knows that the throne is cursed.Yea he was right about her and was trying to stop the massacre. Anyone who desires the throne will end up being a tyrant and Varys knew it. I knew it too, I never liked her and wanted her dead a long time ago.
Unless they want to pull it out of the rubble and fix it up, there already is no iron throne. A whole castle fell on it.I actually don’t think there will be an iron throne in the end after the Dragon Queen dies. Sansa will rule the north while Jon goes off and lives with the wildlings....