OT: Beirut Explosion

True, but their bomb makers had habit of blowing themselves up until they hook up with PLO. Hey, Brits ruled the world unless they were fighting us.
I was social distancing with some friends recently and one mentioned this book/expert who said that every decision regarding Middle East policy has been the wrong choice. He listed Churchill, Saddam, Khadafi, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq...spot on, to me.
 
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816? Lol what are you even talking about....but ill be more than happy to highlight my point lmao
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That’s pretty WOW for someone I almost never agree with. Even bringing in the IRA…impressive.

But the point is well received: one Country’s terrorist is another country’s hero.
Will wonders never end. Well, history does show you are often on the other side. This was really just a little history lesson. If I was pontificating on my own views instead, I am fairly sure you would object. Next time that happens try to make you point without the nasty stuff and we might engage is useful talk.
 
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Will wonders never end. Well, history does show you are often on the other side. This was really just a little history lesson. If I was pontificating on my own views instead, I am fairly sure you would object. Next time that happens try to make you point without the nasty stuff and we might engage is useful talk.
Don’t count on it. History has more “truth” (yeah the sliding scale of the voice of the victor) than your “pontificating“ and bloviation. I’d say keep it classy…but, your parting shot … let’s me know that you haven’t changed. Neither have I.

’Til next time.
 
Why are there negative buttons, anyway? If you've got something negative to say, just say it. A "disagree" button is fine, but why encourage cowardly drive-by snarky behavior?
 
Don’t count on it. History has more “truth” (yeah the sliding scale of the voice of the victor) than your “pontificating“ and bloviation. I’d say keep it classy…but, your parting shot … let’s me know that you haven’t changed. Neither have I.

’Til next time.
Please do, the world would be a better place.
 
Humiliation is being so scared of this "invalid" that you prey on yeezys mental illness to try and divide the black vote.
"unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." - Im Joe Biden and I sniffed this message.
 
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"unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things." - Im Joe Biden and I sniffed this message.

Bunch of junkies too apparently.
 
I was social distancing with some friends recently and one mentioned this book/expert who said that every decision regarding Middle East policy has been the wrong choice. He listed Churchill, Saddam, Khadafi, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq...spot on, to me.
It is hard to be right about the Middle East. If you only accept the Bible as merely a sort of history book, conflict began there with Cain and Able. They kind of take breaks from fighting as appose to occasional wars. With, or without, outsiders they seem to find reason to fight. I'm old school and do not like interventions as a rule. Certainly Afghanistan in one place to just leave the **** alone. If the Brits and the Soviets couldn't stay there that is enough for me. Let's get out and give them a shot at the Chinese. China certainly wants all that rare earth elements.

But you need to be careful with Islam. It can be peaceful when at the disadvantage but it has long history of expansion when it has an edge. Massive silver find fueled it earliest moves into Europe. Crusades knock them back a little but then early use of gunpowder bought more. In our day, all that oil give them that urge again but USA is in the way.

Our first foreign war was there to protect American ships from seizure and sailors from slavery. The Brits paid tribute to avoid the "pirates". Once we were free, that tribute no longer protected us. We built navy when after them. If was our first successful projection of power. Now we reign supreme and virtually alone in that the most difficult on military skills. Ironic that Molsems started down a road that left them defenseless against us a couple hundred years later. This stuff is complicated. I haven't agreed with any of our Mideast wars but I am not a pacifist. If you talk about the one I think matter, against Iran, then I would be on board, BUT only a war declared by Congress and fought WWII style where killing the enemy is the objective and not some bs about freeing some people who love us. I ask you. have you seen or hear many Germans or Japanese yelling and screaming about conquering world after we got done with them? I am a Southerner. After Sherman we are happy to just kick a little *** on the football field and **** right I salute that bloody Stars and Strips.
 
Don’t count on it. History has more “truth” (yeah the sliding scale of the voice of the victor) than your “pontificating“ and bloviation. I’d say keep it classy…but, your parting shot … let’s me know that you haven’t changed. Neither have I.

’Til next time.
Hey, change is a big deal and should not be expected. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy the ride. I gave up on you long ago but why not dance a little.
 
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Will wonders never end. Well, history does show you are often on the other side. This was really just a little history lesson. If I was pontificating on my own views instead, I am fairly sure you would object. Next time that happens try to make you point without the nasty stuff and we might engage is useful talk.

Forgive him. He's just learning to communicate without dumb emojis.

Just watch. I bet he will give me one for this. Trying to wean him bit by bit. It's like a detox thing. He's slowly coming around but will sometimes go into emoji spasms. Terrible to watch.
 
Forgive him. He's just learning to communicate without dumb emojis.

Just watch. I bet he will give me one for this. Trying to wean him bit by bit. It's like a detox thing. He's slowly coming around but will sometimes go into emoji spasms. Terrible to watch.
I'm old and been though much with half my kids now risking being targets one day as fascistic socialists. I stopped going to casino for a while and need to fill the time doing something.
 
It is hard to be right about the Middle East. If you only accept the Bible as merely a sort of history book, conflict began there with Cain and Able. They kind of take breaks from fighting as appose to occasional wars. With, or without, outsiders they seem to find reason to fight. I'm old school and do not like interventions as a rule. Certainly Afghanistan in one place to just leave the **** alone. If the Brits and the Soviets couldn't stay there that is enough for me. Let's get out and give them a shot at the Chinese. China certainly wants all that rare earth elements.

But you need to be careful with Islam. It can be peaceful when at the disadvantage but it has long history of expansion when it has an edge. Massive silver find fueled it earliest moves into Europe. Crusades knock them back a little but then early use of gunpowder bought more. In our day, all that oil give them that urge again but USA is in the way.

Our first foreign war was there to protect American ships from seizure and sailors from slavery. The Brits paid tribute to avoid the "pirates". Once we were free, that tribute no longer protected us. We built navy when after them. If was our first successful projection of power. Now we reign supreme and virtually alone in that the most difficult on military skills. Ironic that Molsems started down a road that left them defenseless against us a couple hundred years later. This stuff is complicated. I haven't agreed with any of our Mideast wars but I am not a pacifist. If you talk about the one I think matter, against Iran, then I would be on board, BUT only a war declared by Congress and fought WWII style where killing the enemy is the objective and not some bs about freeing some people who love us. I ask you. have you seen or hear many Germans or Japanese yelling and screaming about conquering world after we got done with them? I am a Southerner. After Sherman we are happy to just kick a little *** on the football field and **** right I salute that bloody Stars and Strips.
Biblically, it's actually a sibling rivalry between the sons of Abraham and their progeny. Muslims claim Ishmael the rightful heir (being first born through a concubine), the Jews Isaac (being the son through Sara his wife and God's promise). Isaac got the promised land and Abraham basically had to send Ishmael into exile due to family conflict, but God prophesied Ishmael would start a great nation in his own right. The land is what's being fought for to this day.

Not a proponent of Hal Lindsay, but his book "The Ever Lasting Hatred" is a good read regarding the roots of the Arab-Israeli conflict from a biblical standpoint.
 
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I'm old and been though much with half my kids now risking being targets one day as fascistic socialists. I stopped going to casino for a while and need to fill the time doing something.

Entering some scary times. I especially fear for what's coming down the pike for my kids. I am getting old too. Tetrasticles thinks I'm a millennial. So at least I have that going for me.
 
Entering some scary times. I especially fear for what's coming down the pike for my kids. I am getting old too. Tetrasticles thinks I'm a millennial. So at least I have that going for me.
I guess that wasn't you on my lawn then.
 
History of Middle East according to the Bible. Condensed by me.

God promise Abraham he was going to be the father of a great nation, Israel. Abraham and wife, Sarah got old, with no kids.

Abraham stoped trusting God and took matters into his own hand. So he decided to sleep with his maid Hagar and had Ishmael. Ishmael is the father of the Arab nations. Because Ishmael was not the promised son, he did not receive all of God's blessing and in fact had a curse on his race, Gen. 16:12.due to Abraham's disbelief and sin.

Abraham and Sarah eventually did have the son of promise, Isaac. Which eventually became the ****** nation.

So the step brothers have been fighting for centiries. And no outsider is going to solve this family fued.
 
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