- May 17, 2013
Ah, there you go again. Forget any bias you might have and acknowledge the Bible to be at least an attempt to record history and certainly one of the oldest. I am not adverse to religious discussion but this stuff so full of that issue as to render it meaningless to talk about. That is all the reference was about. It was merely to point to a possible fact that since humans might have first lived in that region and the first recorded, however true or not, violent homicide could have occurred there, then violence was no stranger to the region. I think I was agreeing with your premise that all efforts in the region have failed or were mistakes. Why not take it as a win instead of to toss a weak insult?You‘re switching from the Bible to modern times as some sort of reason? Ugh!
So the which son spawned the Vikings? 3rd Reich? Genghis Khan? What about the Mongols? Because there must be a direct biblical explanation, no? Rhetorical!
There’s conflict all over the world. It’s what man does. Trying to make one group the heel and one group the hero is usually complicated. And trying to tie it to the Bible … stupid. You might need to read more of my newly found armistice partner @Gatorhater to catch up to making an even slightly reasoned argument. It’s a tentative peace We have you know - we still don’t agree, but you could learn more than you currently know.
Sure violence aplenty has been world wide but the Middle East is certainly one of the most persistent. Vikings eventually calmed down(some food for future discucssion would be if that was do to the Middle Ages Warming Period) although some settled in France and sallied forth as Normans for quite some time as fierce as ever. The Mongols, after a truly spectacular and impressive run, eventually withdrew and again calmed down. Maybe that was because of their own venture into the Middle East cauldron.
For the sake of continued discordance, may I suggest you refrain from defining "reasoned" as only something you agree with. You seem to have enough knowledge to stand your ground without tossing silly insults. By the way, Carter is hardly someone I supported but the dude did something NO other President came close to and deserves praise for it. Calling a 40 years peace "tentative" in a region where the great Kissinger was happy with short ceasefires is hardly fair. He left the Middle East in a disaster because of his mistakes in Iran but he stopped hot wars between the two biggest players with background impact on US vs USSR battle by basically "flipping" Egypt - two big wins for the man. Add that to the fact the the Helsinki Accords with USSR was major contribution to the eventual collapse of the Evil Empire(knowing why that is true is a little test for you) and Carter has case for being one of our most successful presidents so clearly needed to be pitched at first chance. I voted against him twice and stand by both but he was two for three on the major foreign affairs issues.