On Ny Carr...Staying at UM

[Chicho Salchicha]

If anything, this shows me that our DB stable this year is far superior to last year, since he was "open" all of the time last Spring '24. GO CANES!

 

[ssvir]

Oh wait. You were serious?

Weird that UGA would take a commitment from a kid they didn’t really want.

Taking commitments and then dropping or not really caring if guys flip happens all the time. Miami does this 3-5x every single recruiting season.

Name all these state of Georgia players that flipped from to Miami from UGA/Bama/Auburn .... I'll wait.

 

[DTP]

Taking commitments and then dropping or not really caring if guys flip happens all the time. Miami does this 3-5x every single recruiting season.

Name all these state of Georgia players that flipped from to Miami from UGA/Bama/Auburn .... I'll wait.

So Georgia let Carr commit even though they thought he wasn’t good? Teams will let committed players walk when they get commitments from a high rated kid but Carr was higher rated than anyone UGA signed in 2024. You’re really reaching.

 

[Hurracanes]

This is not the end of Ny Carr’s story. He’s a sophomore. I think he’ll be a good player. But there is urgency because Miami is desperate to win, he’s desperate to play and there is real money involved.

Remind the staff the championship game is in Miami this year. Go all in this portal.

 

[CF3]

@Coach Macho might've been on to something... I looked at the top 50 players from Georgia in '24 and only like 2-3 offensive players made any significant impact. I think only 2 of the offensive players in the top 50 went to Georgia or Alabama. Might just be a case that the staff overpaid on this one.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Let’s be honest you get excited and pop one everytime someone makes a routine play on Greentree. Robert Stafford one of many examples.

Here's the thing, though, and you know I love ya, so I'm not gonna argue with you.

Seeing guys performing on Greentree is exciting. You see the young guys getting better, and you start to project growth.

What HAS changed is our institutional "patience" level. I grew up watching guys in the 80s and 90s who didn't become starters/monsters until their fifth years. I always thought "Dewey is gonna regain the talent he flashed as a freshman, once he recovers from this injury", but it never came together and Warren Sapp outplayed him for the next few years.

Look, not all of these guys will develop. But I also hate "giving up" on guys after one year. We needed Ny to be patient and Ny wanted to play now. Plus, the NIL factor contributes to the "impatience" level.

The situation, as it is currently constructed, sucks for players that need multiple years of development. I'm still going to get excited when I see young players making plays, even in garbage time. But I'm also not projecting All-American status for them either, until I see a lot more plays.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Here's the thing, though, and you know I love ya, so I'm not gonna argue with you.

Seeing guys performing on Greentree is exciting. You see the young guys getting better, and you start to project growth.

What HAS changed is our institutional "patience" level. I grew up watching guys in the 80s and 90s who didn't become starters/monsters until their fifth years. I always thought "Dewey is gonna regain the talent he flashed as a freshman, once he recovers from this injury", but it never came together and Warren Sapp outplayed him for the next few years.

Look, not all of these guys will develop. But I also hate "giving up" on guys after one year. We needed Ny to be patient and Ny wanted to play now. Plus, the NIL factor contributes to the "impatience" level.

The situation, as it is currently constructed, sucks for players that need multiple years of development. I'm still going to get excited when I see young players making plays, even in garbage time. But I'm also not projecting All-American status for them either, until I see a lot more plays.

Yea I see what you are saying but take Robert Stafford for example last year. All we heard was how he was making all these plays and looked great, etc. But then gets out there on special teams and was terrible. Or he couldn’t crack the rotation with how bad the dbs are.

I hate writing guys off after 1 or 2 years depending on what position they play and I try not to do it. I’m bummed about Carr, I had high hopes for him if he just stuck around a little longer but that’s football in today’s world. No one is patient anymore.

 

[fatnasty187]

Tell me what you know, objectively, about Ny Carr's performance this spring.

I'm not even asking this rhetorically. Has anyone heard anything about Carr having a good spring? I'm not the only one at practice. The spring game was wide open to the public. What are you hearing different than what I'm being "fed?"

He was so good no one even knew.

 

[Coach Macho]

@Coach Macho might've been on to something... I looked at the top 50 players from Georgia in '24 and only like 2-3 offensive players made any significant impact. I think only 2 of the offensive players in the top 50 went to Georgia or Alabama. Might just be a case that the staff overpaid on this one.

 

[ssvir]

So Georgia let Carr commit even though they thought he wasn’t good? Teams will let committed players walk when they get commitments from a high rated kid but Carr was higher rated than anyone UGA signed in 2024. You’re really reaching.

Exactly as I expected. You can't name a single guy we took that UGA/BAMA/Auburn really wanted from the state of Georgia in the last 10 years.

 

[Schuylkill County Cane]

What is a progrum ?

 

[ssvir]

@Coach Macho might've been on to something... I looked at the top 50 players from Georgia in '24 and only like 2-3 offensive players made any significant impact. I think only 2 of the offensive players in the top 50 went to Georgia or Alabama. Might just be a case that the staff overpaid on this one.

@DTP

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Yea I see what you are saying but take Robert Stafford for example last year. All we heard was how he was making all these plays and looked great, etc. But then gets out there on special teams and was terrible. Or he couldn’t crack the rotation with how bad the dbs are.

I hate writing guys off after 1 or 2 years depending on what position they play and I try not to do it. I’m bummed about Carr, I had high hopes for him if he just stuck around a little longer but that’s football in today’s world. No one is patient anymore.

Fair.

Remember, we invented the term "Greentree All-American" to describe guys like Robert Stafford...

 

[DTP]

Exactly as I expected. You can't name a single guy we took that UGA/BAMA/Auburn really wanted from the state of Georgia in the last 10 years.

I literally said Ny Carr. The guy this thread is about. Your argument is that Georgia “didn’t want him”. I countered with the fact that he was committed to them. You said that teams let committed players go elsewhere all the time. I said when they have a better replacement they do. Georgia didn’t sign a better receiver than Carr. So either Kirby Smart was playing some kind of crazy 5D chess where he was offering and taking commitments from guys he secretly didn’t want (for no apparent reason) Or, the logical argument that they really wanted him, he would have been their top receiver recruit in the class but he signed here.

I’m not really sure how much evidence you need that we beat Georgia for a player. But if you want to ignore facts and focus on “well they didn’t really want him” then there’s no amount of evidence that will change your opinion.

 

[DemCanes10]

Name them

LOL...bruh you out of depth, we have beat UGay for plenty of players. Doesnt their Mod have a post saying "you dont wanna be in the final 2 with Miami"

I'll just keep it current...

JoJo
Damari Brown
Popo
SlimeTo
Samson Okunlola
Cici

They also wanted James WIlliams and Kam Kinchens really bad

 

[ssvir]

LOL...bruh you out of depth, we have beat UGay for plenty of players. Doesnt their Mod have a post saying "you dont wanna be in the final 2 with Miami"

I'll just keep it current...

JoJo
Damari Brown
Popo
SlimeTo
Samson Okunlola
Cici

They also wanted James WIlliams and Kam Kinchens really bad

If you could learn to read you would see that the topic is PLAYERS FROM THE STATE OF GEORGIA THAT EITHER UGA, BAMA, or AUBURN ACTUALLY WANTED.

Not a single guy from your list was from Georgia.

 

[E1k]

Im not sweating this at all but im also not buying he was just passed up lol seems convenient. Sounds like some shiny new toy **** they way you explained it

 

[DemCanes10]

If you could learn to read you would see that the topic is PLAYERS FROM THE STATE OF GEORGIA THAT EITHER UGA, BAMA, or AUBURN ACTUALLY WANTED.

Not a single guy from your list was from Georgia.

Besides Carr...

Popo

 

[ssvir]

I literally said Ny Carr. The guy this thread is about. Your argument is that Georgia “didn’t want him”. I countered with the fact that he was committed to them. You said that teams let committed players go elsewhere all the time. I said when they have a better replacement they do. Georgia didn’t sign a better receiver than Carr. So either Kirby Smart was playing some kind of crazy 5D chess where he was offering and taking commitments from guys he secretly didn’t want (for no apparent reason) Or, the logical argument that they really wanted him, he would have been their top receiver recruit in the class but he signed here.

I’m not really sure how much evidence you need that we beat Georgia for a player. But if you want to ignore facts and focus on “well they didn’t really want him” then there’s no amount of evidence that will change your opinion.

As I expected you were unable to name a single other guy from Georgia that we took from them that they really wanted.

My point was (which you clearly fail to comprehend) is that if Ny Carr was a can't miss prospect there is 0% chance that UGA/Bama/Auburn would have allowed him to leave.

We had the RB from Alabama committed and Bama supposedly got his dad out of jail in return for his commitment - that is what we are up against for in-state guys these schools want.

You can say it 20x over and over again that Ny Carr was "higher rated blah blah blah". If he was a can't miss he would have been at UGA and 10+ years of history backs me up on top of the fact he is gone after one year.

 

[E1k]

The problem I have with last years wr rotation was Sam Brown. His production could have been replaced with JoJo or Carr easy. And Im sure he wasnt cheap. You would have gotten to see the younger players in games more to see what they actually had before this year and....they havent made an impact so were letting them go.....

I don’t think yall understand the value of having a guy who has WR1 experience as our wr4, that’s how u get the #1 offense.