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hotshot said:
Anyone see Manny Navarro's Tweets on Tommy Kennedy. Looking like a mis-evaluated, overrated bust ... already.
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Manny Navarro:

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Drewny1 said:
The Bold doesnt make sense for 2 reasons

1. We let 7 P5 level OL leave the region this past recruiting class. Not blaming Manny for this but its obvious we arent dominating OL recruiting in our backyard.

2. Zion isnt from South Florida.
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How many so called "p5" players start in the superbowl vs so callec "2 star" and unranked players!
 
ClancyNoseBest said:
Iowa has continually recruited low-star athletic bodies and bulked them up to be NFL OL and DL players. Not all of them for sure, but every year one or more. For example this year they have the top 2 tight ends in the draft...
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Cry babies and gentlemen, this is what we need more of on this board: FACTS!
 
Umfuture said:
Nelson's latest weight I heard is almost 270 and carries it easily.
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270 is a good weight for a freshman tackle who hasn't been on campus long. I'm less worried about the actual weight number and more the strength numbers. Kids gain weight easily their freshman/sophomore years but when so much lighter in high school, they probably weren't pushing heavy weights around. Many guys need time for improving that piece more than the actual weight gain.
 
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ClancyNoseBest said:
Iowa has continually recruited low-star athletic bodies and bulked them up to be NFL OL and DL players. Not all of them for sure, but every year one or more. For example this year they have the top 2 tight ends in the draft...
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of recruiting. Iowa as an area tends not to be well covered by rating services, for obvious reasons. But it has consistently produced solid linemen over time. Iowa gets to see them early and often, and evaluate them more and better, and it tends to be able to keep the best ones home. Wisconsin recruits linemen well too. Sure, you have to have an S&C program that works, etc. But Iowa doesn’t have some magic S&C that only works for OL. It gets the right guys, and they’re underrated because that’s how the system works.
 
Drewny1 said:
How does this get a dumb *** warning for Personal attacks but some on here bashes the **** out of me on a consistent basis??
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Some of da Mods have an agenda. Four example, after NY got a well deserved band the first time, they perma band him FOR NOTHING!
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
I agree with you…to a point. What both Iowa and Wisconsin are good at is evaluating athletes OUT OF POSITION and encouraging/recruiting them to change. One of Wisconsin’s All-America OL was a QB, then a TE before becoming an OL. Wisconsin might’ve spent the last two years bulking up Polendey to turn him into an All-something LT. And IOWA has the highest paid S&C coach in the country.

Make no mistakes, they’re winning with athletes.
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Our program was once all about seeing potential in other positions. It’s fundamental to evaluating HS kids that you think about position changes because the best athletes in HS often wind up playing where needed rather than where they’ll end up in college.

And Iowa’s S&C doesn’t turn its lower rated WRs or CBs to top level kids the way it does linemen. Just pointing out they are evaluating well. Wisconsin too.
 
hotshot said:
Turns out Manny was right on the mark! Kennedy is indeed a bust.
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Early indications are he has not met our expectations but I think we should hold judgment until the season moves along. My two cents but then again I always get change back.
 
OL is arguably the most difficult position to evaluate. Some kids are just so much stronger than their counterparts in hs they don’t need great technique to dominate when they get to college that’s no longer the case.

It does seem that we have had far more busts than in any time I can remember. Zion Nelson is at least athletic and shown some compete.
 
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Keep in mind Richt was a god awful OL recruiter. Kirby brought in more blue chip OL in 3 years than Richt did in his entire career.
 
BoxingRobes said:
We are very light at tackle, so much so we have guards playing tackle for this team. We may only have 3 legit tackles on the roster (Kennedy, Campbell, Zion Nelson)...so the fact that Zion is getting second team reps isn't surprising.
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Just gonna forget Scaife?
 
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