All I’m saying bro is there in fact was a time butch was hated by many in the fan base the same way Coker, Golden, Shannon and Richt was..flying banners are a ritual of passage for coaches at the U lol..Shannon inherited a mess and passed it on to golden who passed it on to Richt..fact is manny is the 1st coach since Erickson and Coker who is being handed the keys to the program in good condition....I get the man is a personal friend. I respect that. But butch being hired in 2015 is not a Homerun hire. As bad as MR tenure ended, he left on the best possible terms for our program and left it in better shape than he found it