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tsimonitis said:
The most telling is that most of them got on campus, spent a season and then bolted.
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AJ lasted two years, Kromenhoek and Trevor Jackson just one season.

And Kromenhoek was a near five star recruit.

How can Norvell recruit with that sort of attrition? It would be like Mario recruiting new blue chip offensive linemen after Mauigoa and Okunlola left after just one year.
 
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Stats02 said:
Good work. The list of remaining players from the ‘22-‘24 portal classes and majority of ‘25 portal class are JAG’s.

Looks like they did upgrade the o-line significantly, anything was an improvement from last year, but they got no weapons on offense. The tight end, Pittman, is pretty good, but I don’t see any threats at WR or RB. Their defensive haul very unimpressive. They might have a few from that list step up this year, but I’m just not seeing any game changers from that list. A lot of those guys may not even see the field.
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No game changers? Maybe they should go after UF’s newly available “game change coordinator”
 
GojiraCane said:
On paper their 2025 roster is better at:

Tight End (.8911 average rating vs .8884)
Running Back (.9215 average rating vs .9146)
Defensive Tackle (.9018 average rating vs .8852)
Defensive End (.9031 average rating vs .9028)
Special Teams (.8236 average rating vs .8058)
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Interesting. They should be better at TE for sure. Should be better at OL as well, although last years OL was a bunch of higher star guys that underperformed.

Special Teams will be worse. No way the new kicker and punter will be better than last years duo, but I guess these ratings are based off just high school rankings?
 
Stats02 said:
Interesting. They should be better at TE for sure. Should be better at OL as well, although last years OL was a bunch of higher star guys that underperformed.

Special Teams will be worse. No way the new kicker and punter will be better than last years duo, but I guess these ratings are based off just high school rankings?
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High school and transfer ratings.

Here are the differences with TE, HB, DT, DE, and ST:

Left is 2025, right is 2024:

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Stats02 said:
Interesting. They should be better at TE for sure. Should be better at OL as well, although last years OL was a bunch of higher star guys that underperformed.

Special Teams will be worse. No way the new kicker and punter will be better than last years duo, but I guess these ratings are based off just high school rankings?
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Here's the OL comparison:

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Stats02 said:
Dude on the left thinks they are going to win 10-11 games this year, because their transfer portal class graded pretty high.

I have a question. How are the transfers graded? Are they graded on their high school rankings or their actual college production/level of play.

I totally get their 2023 transfer class being ranked high. They got some studs in that class. Their 2024 transfer class also graded high, but we all questioned who they got that was actually good. Sure, DJU was even worse than advertised, but they literally got no proven players in that 2024 class. Same with this 2025 class. Who did they get thats so good to give them this high transfer portal class grade?
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Yea 90% of transfers are jags looking to collect while they still can. Maybe 80%

But if you got a guy that’s coming from uga or bama etc. most of the time they couldn’t cut it at the previous school
 
So apparently the Fl board of governors decision to override UF’s choice of president has caused FSU’s stock to plummet in the eyes of B10 & SEC…

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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GojiraCane said:
Here's the OL comparison:

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There needs to be some other type of ranking system once the player completes each season. Continuing to rank them off their high school rating is just asinine. I don’t have the answers for how and what it should be, but the current system is incredibly inaccurate.

That’s ok with me for now. If these FSU morons take those rankings so literally that they think last years portal class was anomaly. They refuse to believe those guys they got weren’t actually good. It’s going to be same with their class this year. They got very few proven players, but they think they are on Oregon’s level and are going to win 10-11 just because their portal class grades high on paper.
 
GojiraCane said:
On paper their 2025 roster is better at:

Tight End (.8911 average rating vs .8884)
Running Back (.9215 average rating vs .9146)
Defensive Tackle (.9018 average rating vs .8852)
Defensive End (.9031 average rating vs .9028)
Special Teams (.8236 average rating vs .8058)
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Going out on a limb here, but F$U will neither win nor lose a single 2025 game based on special teams.

The "better" DE room is by 3 TEN-THOUSANDTHS of a decimal (their 4th and 5th and 8th highest rated HS recruits are DEs).

The "better" TE room is by 27 TEN-THOUSANDTHS of a decimal (their 7th and 9th highest rated HS recruits are DEs).

The "better" RB room is by 69 TEN-THOUSANDTHS of a decimal (their #1 highest rated HS recruit is a RB).

Simply stated, when a position room looks better because of the HS recruits, you can't expect that to translate onto the field in Year 1. The improved talent may help F$U in a couple of years (assuming they can retain and develop those guys). But THREE of their four "improved talent position rooms" are due to 6 of their 9 highest rated HS recruits.

So...good news for the guy who replaces Prison Mike Norvell.
 
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