NO UM FOR BECKHAM'S NEW STADIUM

School could have been proactive and sought to build a stadium of their own rather than waiting around for beckham. Some of us tried to tell you this was just a way for shalala to say she tried to get a stadium. There was never any seriousness on her part.

Program is dead.
 
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Our pathetic fans couldn't fill a 25,000 seat stadium. We'd have a hard time filling Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale with our "fans."

Al and the kids deserve better than they get from our "fans."
 
Shocked, really shocked.

Oh, wait....we still may be in play? Please, this was never a realistic idea, not under 50k and then Beckham's team would have people talking about their 2/3's empty stadium.

This isn't a political issue, it's just a dumbass idea with no realistic solution to make both sides happy.
 
This will officially be put to rest like a month or two from now in passing in Barry Jackson's blog. The confirmation that it's dead will fall in between some mention about the Heats options at late addition bench players and the Panthers negotaitions with the city of Sunrise about their arena. Flake will stress that all avenues were exhausted but in the end the school couldn't be happier about how spectacular a facility SLS will be.....as nobody ever again forces him or anyone else at the school to address Shalala's negative quotes about the place on her way out the door.
 
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This is good news & I'm glad it's dead. NOONE wants to play in a 40,000 seat stadium much less 25. We would be FIU. GO CANES!
 
I think a 40K seat stadium for a school with Miami's enrollment would work.

We'd still have a bigger stadium than Wake Forest and Duke, and it would be about the same size as Vanderbilt's stadium.

Again, based on the location of the school and the enrollment, 40K would be ok.

But I'm guessing 40K would still be too big for soccer??
 
I like how all the dummies on here are crying about the potential catastrophe of playing in a 40k seat stadium when we can't even draw 15k actual fans in the stands.

Are these the same nincompoops who actually believed the attendance numbers being announced for last year's games? I remember UM claiming there were 30k or something at one of the noon games when I could actually physically count the "fans" in the stands, and it was around 5k. Then, the geniuses on here claimed we had 25k in the corridors at Joe Robbie.

I'd rather have a full or nearly full 40k seat stadium that is loud and actually looks like a real football environment than 5k in an embarrassingly empty national joke at Joe Robbie. It's the same reason I only let midgets jack me off. My putz looks gigantic in one of those little plum-like hands.

But I'll let the nitwits go ahead and nitwit.
 
25000 seats I think bechem is selling himself short I exspect the sport of soccer to out grow a 25000 seat stadium in the next 10years I think he needs to build a 40k seat stadium
Just to be on the safe side.
 
I think a 40K seat stadium for a school with Miami's enrollment would work.

We'd still have a bigger stadium than Wake Forest and Duke, and it would be about the same size as Vanderbilt's stadium.

Again, based on the location of the school and the enrollment, 40K would be ok.

But I'm guessing 40K would still be too big for soccer??

Boy oh boy, be careful what you wish for or think would be acceptable for a school our size.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

At 40k, we'd be in the bottom five of BCS conferences off the top of my head. With all of the conference realignment I'm not sure who's in what on any given day.

That's not the company you want to keep if you're trying to be a football powerhouse. I've said it before, this program is toast if this deal goes through at 40k. 50 or 55k, then you can make an argument, but not below that or with MLS as a partner since that number is far too high for them.
 
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Its dumb to even think about. 40k should be the minimum and thats waaay to many seats for Soccer.

The renovations at Sun Life will bring life and people back. It already looks much better and its not even 70% done.
 
Agree to disagree.

According to the link you provided:

Boise St. = 37K
Baylor = 45K
TCU = 45K

The stadium size doesn't prevent those teams from having powerhouse football teams.

As for the BCS conference reference ... In addition to still being larger than, or as large as, Vandy, Duke, and Wake ... A 40K seat stadium would still be on par with Oregon State, Utah, BC, and Washington State, at between 35K-45K. and though not BCS conferences, Cincinnati and Connecticut have been seen as candidates, and both have comparably size stadiums with much larger enrollments. UCF also has a similar sized stadium.

I just don't see how the stadium size would be a knock on the school when the enrollment is less than 16K students ...

I think a 40K seat stadium for a school with Miami's enrollment would work.

We'd still have a bigger stadium than Wake Forest and Duke, and it would be about the same size as Vanderbilt's stadium.

Again, based on the location of the school and the enrollment, 40K would be ok.

But I'm guessing 40K would still be too big for soccer??

Boy oh boy, be careful what you wish for or think would be acceptable for a school our size.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

At 40k, we'd be in the bottom five of BCS conferences off the top of my head. With all of the conference realignment I'm not sure who's in what on any given day.

That's not the company you want to keep if you're trying to be a football powerhouse. I've said it before, this program is toast if this deal goes through at 40k. 50 or 55k, then you can make an argument, but not below that or with MLS as a partner since that number is far too high for them.
 
If the school could raise money for the medical center, I'm sure they could raise money for the sports dept. However, as many has stated, since we have an inept BOT and AD nothing will ever be accomplished here.
 
If the school could raise money for the medical center, I'm sure they could raise money for the sports dept. However, as many has stated, since we have an inept BOT and AD nothing will ever be accomplished here.

I never reply to my own post, but after re-reading Blake's comments, it really makes me wanna punch him in his face. He's everything that's wrong w/ Miami and I need him far away from this program as well.
 
Build something in the 20.000 seat range and complain not enough seats...Build something in the 40.000 seat range and you have 20.000 empty seats per game according to recent gate receipts. Build a better football team and 40.000 seats are just about right.
 
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Agree to disagree.

According to the link you provided:

Boise St. = 37K
Baylor = 45K
TCU = 45K

The stadium size doesn't prevent those teams from having powerhouse football teams.

As for the BCS conference reference ... In addition to still being larger than, or as large as, Vandy, Duke, and Wake ... A 40K seat stadium would still be on par with Oregon State, Utah, BC, and Washington State, at between 35K-45K. and though not BCS conferences, Cincinnati and Connecticut have been seen as candidates, and both have comparably size stadiums with much larger enrollments. UCF also has a similar sized stadium.

I just don't see how the stadium size would be a knock on the school when the enrollment is less than 16K students ...

I think a 40K seat stadium for a school with Miami's enrollment would work.

We'd still have a bigger stadium than Wake Forest and Duke, and it would be about the same size as Vanderbilt's stadium.

Again, based on the location of the school and the enrollment, 40K would be ok.

But I'm guessing 40K would still be too big for soccer??

Boy oh boy, be careful what you wish for or think would be acceptable for a school our size.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

At 40k, we'd be in the bottom five of BCS conferences off the top of my head. With all of the conference realignment I'm not sure who's in what on any given day.

That's not the company you want to keep if you're trying to be a football powerhouse. I've said it before, this program is toast if this deal goes through at 40k. 50 or 55k, then you can make an argument, but not below that or with MLS as a partner since that number is far too high for them.

Ultimately the stadium size shouldn't matter, but when you combine it with the wrong hiring, poor extensions, etc....it's a problem. In particular when everyone wants your local talent and has all the bell's / whistles every program wants.

Boise has had some good teams for a decade, but they were in a bad conference. They had a good run of coaches, but how long is that going to last? They are far from the norm.

TCU and Baylor only came up recently as well. Same sort of thing as Boise in that they've got solid coaching. I can see them being relevant longer than Boise due to being in a talent rich and football crazed state. I do believe some of the departures from the old Big12 conference has benefited them as well.

I agree with you in some ways, but sustainability, I just don't see it if we want to lower the bar in any way. We're not a powerhouse or even close to it anymore, but instead a sleeping giant. We never had the best of anything in college football in terms of facilities and I'd argue they mattered less back then than now. It's an arms race these days with out of control spending IMHO. A 40k stadium would be a colossal step backwards in that race.

While I can't stand Joe Robbie, it's got all the bling factor kids look for today, we just need to start winning again. We don't need anymore negative recruiting fodder for other schools to use against us. Do you want to play in front of 40k or double that many coaches would say. At least now we can point to super bowls being player there along with all the other Tom foolery it has.
 
Opposing coaches are already pointing and laughing at our attendance.

We would actually have a better rebuttal if we were selling out the 40K seats, instead of having 40K in a 60K seat stadium, IMO.

I think a 40K seat stadium would be on fire if the team turned things around. But we still wouldn't regularly sellout Sun Life ... Check the stats for the OB ... We were not selling that stadium out on the regular ... Just for the big games!

And when big games happen ... We could still sell recruits on us playing in Sun Life. There is no way Ross allows Miami to walk away from that lease.

I'm guessing there would be a fee to terminate the lease, combined with an agreement for Sun Life to host the "marquee" games on the schedule. And I'm guessing we wouldn't see a dime of revenue from the games hosted at Sun Life under that scenario, as an additional fee for walking away from the lease.

Agree to disagree.

According to the link you provided:

Boise St. = 37K
Baylor = 45K
TCU = 45K

The stadium size doesn't prevent those teams from having powerhouse football teams.

As for the BCS conference reference ... In addition to still being larger than, or as large as, Vandy, Duke, and Wake ... A 40K seat stadium would still be on par with Oregon State, Utah, BC, and Washington State, at between 35K-45K. and though not BCS conferences, Cincinnati and Connecticut have been seen as candidates, and both have comparably size stadiums with much larger enrollments. UCF also has a similar sized stadium.

I just don't see how the stadium size would be a knock on the school when the enrollment is less than 16K students ...

I think a 40K seat stadium for a school with Miami's enrollment would work.

We'd still have a bigger stadium than Wake Forest and Duke, and it would be about the same size as Vanderbilt's stadium.

Again, based on the location of the school and the enrollment, 40K would be ok.

But I'm guessing 40K would still be too big for soccer??

Boy oh boy, be careful what you wish for or think would be acceptable for a school our size.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity

At 40k, we'd be in the bottom five of BCS conferences off the top of my head. With all of the conference realignment I'm not sure who's in what on any given day.

That's not the company you want to keep if you're trying to be a football powerhouse. I've said it before, this program is toast if this deal goes through at 40k. 50 or 55k, then you can make an argument, but not below that or with MLS as a partner since that number is far too high for them.

Ultimately the stadium size shouldn't matter, but when you combine it with the wrong hiring, poor extensions, etc....it's a problem. In particular when everyone wants your local talent and has all the bell's / whistles every program wants.

Boise has had some good teams for a decade, but they were in a bad conference. They had a good run of coaches, but how long is that going to last? They are far from the norm.

TCU and Baylor only came up recently as well. Same sort of thing as Boise in that they've got solid coaching. I can see them being relevant longer than Boise due to being in a talent rich and football crazed state. I do believe some of the departures from the old Big12 conference has benefited them as well.

I agree with you in some ways, but sustainability, I just don't see it if we want to lower the bar in any way. We're not a powerhouse or even close to it anymore, but instead a sleeping giant. We never had the best of anything in college football in terms of facilities and I'd argue they mattered less back then than now. It's an arms race these days with out of control spending IMHO. A 40k stadium would be a colossal step backwards in that race.

While I can't stand Joe Robbie, it's got all the bling factor kids look for today, we just need to start winning again. We don't need anymore negative recruiting fodder for other schools to use against us. Do you want to play in front of 40k or double that many coaches would say. At least now we can point to super bowls being player there along with all the other Tom foolery it has.
 
The size of Sun Life is not optimal for UM, but the location is the biggest problem. That is one of the bigger reasons no one goes.
 
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