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Most of us don't give N'Kosi Perry the benefit of the doubt because he was not prepared or hungry for success last year.

Rosier should NEVER have beaten him out, and the fact that he did speaks volumes. Secondly, the games that we did see him in, he looked like pure garbage.

And don't try to blame coaching either.
 
duke4heisman said:
LOL. Urban Meyer is one of the best in the game and personally recruited Tate, praised him for running all over the defense on the scout team and showed out every time he saw the field. I've never seen one comment from any coach that says he can't throw and it doesn't matter anyway, because anyone that watches his film can see that's a lie.
I'm a Miami fan and I know I defend Tate a lot and there's two reasons for it. First, because I actually do believe he's by far the most talented QB. Second, you say the majority hates on the other QBs but what I see is the majority hating on Tate and it's comical. This very site is the first I heard of him and it was all about how he was a Johnny football clone and was going to win the Heisman. As soon as he came to Miami, the haters came out in full force.
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1st of all..Urban recruiting Tate doesn't mean 1.) that's he's a good QB or 2.) that he's a good passer. Urban also recruited Tebow & JT Barrett. Do you think they were prolific passers as well? Urban was a great offensive mind & considered innovative for bringing a run-oriented version of the spread to college football. The most successful offenses of today are pass-oriented.

Also..if he was such a great QB/passer, why did OSU allow him to walk/transfer without even allowing him to compete for the job? Surely..if he was so great wouldn't they at the minimum want him on their roster to provide added competition? Finally If you truly cared about having the best QB win the job, then you wouldn't have a preference or bias towards who starts. The man-crush that you have for Tate, is preventing you from being objective. If that weren't the case, you would be able to accept the reality that N'Kosi Perry has way more arm talent than Tate Martell. Even last yr, with a POS offensive staff/system, and questionable intangibles/maturity, N'Kosi still managed to make throws that Tate will never be able to make in his entire life.
 
Cane since 1060 said:
I'm sure most would agree he got a raw deal with CMR. He had flashes of brilliance I.E FSU game. He will be the starter for the gator simply because of experience. I have to think his poor decision making at times will be corrected by Enos. You hear from the players that he is a different person now. After the gator game he will be reavaluated but as of now barring injury we go with N'kosi. All agree ?
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Yeah cry me a river.

He may have.

But how about he man the fk up and not cause his own drama despite the challenges.

He’s been his own worst enemy and that’s not on anyone but the Snapchat **** dude himself.

Hope he gets it together. I don’t give a f who starts just want to see a good qb at Miami again before I die.
 
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craval85 said:
1st of all..Urban recruiting Tate doesn't mean 1.) that's he's a good QB or 2.) that he's a good passer. Urban also recruited Tebow & JT Barrett. Do you think they were prolific passers as well? Urban was a great offensive mind & considered innovative for bringing a run-oriented version of the spread to college football. The most successful offenses of today are pass-oriented.

Also..if he was such a great QB/passer, why did OSU allow him to walk/transfer without even allowing him to compete for the job? Surely..if he was so great wouldn't they at the minimum want him on their roster to provide added competition? Finally If you truly cared about having the best QB win the job, then you wouldn't have a preference or bias towards who starts. The man-crush that you have for Tate, is preventing you from being objective. If that weren't the case, you would be able to accept the reality that N'Kosi Perry has way more arm talent than Tate Martell. Even last yr, with a POS offensive staff/system, and questionable intangibles/maturity, N'Kosi still managed to make throws that Tate will never be able to make in his entire life.
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LOL. I know what I see, does Nkosi have a stronger arm? Probably but I've seen Tate make throws that are at least 50 to 60 yards. Nkosi hasn't thrown much more than that, if that, because no QB will hardly ever have to.
Also, Tate has one of the fastest releases I've seen, it's like his arm is still going backwards when the ball comes out. You know what that means, power. He can make quick, extremely accurate throws, that move the chains and that, on top of all of his elite footwork, elusiveness, change of direction and acceleration, make him the most talented QB.
 
ThomasG954 said:
The playbook wasn’t the issue as much as it was having advanced QB skills that the playbook required to actually have success, like going through 3 reads on a play, feeling pressure in the pocket and avoiding it, ball placement, etc
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Who was going to teach him any of this stuff you speak of....?????? CMR jr?🤔
 
craval85 said:
1st of all..Urban recruiting Tate doesn't mean 1.) that's he's a good QB or 2.) that he's a good passer. Urban also recruited Tebow & JT Barrett. Do you think they were prolific passers as well? Urban was a great offensive mind & considered innovative for bringing a run-oriented version of the spread to college football. The most successful offenses of today are pass-oriented.

Also..if he was such a great QB/passer, why did OSU allow him to walk/transfer without even allowing him to compete for the job? Surely..if he was so great wouldn't they at the minimum want him on their roster to provide added competition? Finally If you truly cared about having the best QB win the job, then you wouldn't have a preference or bias towards who starts. The man-crush that you have for Tate, is preventing you from being objective. If that weren't the case, you would be able to accept the reality that N'Kosi Perry has way more arm talent than Tate Martell. Even last yr, with a POS offensive staff/system, and questionable intangibles/maturity, N'Kosi still managed to make throws that Tate will never be able to make in his entire life.
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If Urban recruited Tate the chances of him being a "good QB" are more likely than if some regular coach recruited him. What QBs has Urban missed on? U gave Tebow and JT as examples as if that were a bad thing... both are national championship winning QBs. Enos already said that he would tailor the offense around whatever QB wins the job.

OSU told Tate to walk bc 1. The guy who wanted him there left, and 2. Fields is a better QB. No one is saying Tate is better than Fields.

The "Tate can't throw" is simply a false narrative. There is film of him throwing 50 yard TDs or him scrambling to his left and hitting a WR on the money. U act as if we haven't already had a spring game. Can u show many any throw he wasn't capable of making?... Didn't think so. U don't need an all pro arm to win in CFB. We won 10 games with Malik Rosier. Tate has a better arm than him. Nick Marshall lead Auburn to national championship and beat Alabama. Tate has a better arm than him also.

We run a west coast offense or "spread coast" and if u know anything about football then u would know in a west coast offense the WRs do all the leg work. U get the ball out quick on short to intermediate routes to your receivers. Exactly what we saw in the spring game.

U and other people on here give yourself away. U say "I just want the best QB" but then the only time u have a rebuttal is when someone mentions Tate. U don't do that with Jarren. U don't do that with Kosi. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
 
D RevLee said:
If Urban recruited Tate the chances of him being a "good QB" are more likely than if some regular coach recruited him. What QBs has Urban missed on? U gave Tebow and JT as examples as if that were a bad thing... both are national championship winning QBs. Enos already said that he would tailor the offense around whatever QB wins the job.

OSU told Tate to walk bc 1. The guy who wanted him there left, and 2. Fields is a better QB. No one is saying Tate is better than Fields.

The "Tate can't throw" is simply a false narrative. There is film of him throwing 50 yard TDs or him scrambling to his left and hitting a WR on the money. U act as if we haven't already had a spring game. Can u show many any throw he wasn't capable of making?... Didn't think so. U don't need an all pro arm to win in CFB. We won 10 games with Malik Rosier. Tate has a better arm than him. Nick Marshall lead Auburn to national championship and beat Alabama. Tate has a better arm than him also.

We run a west coast offense or "spread coast" and if u know anything about football then u would know in a west coast offense the WRs do all the leg work. U get the ball out quick on short to intermediate routes to your receivers. Exactly what we saw in the spring game.

U and other people on here give yourself away. U say "I just want the best QB" but then the only time u have a rebuttal is when someone mentions Tate. U don't do that with Jarren. U don't do that with Kosi. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
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Just let the competition run it's course-that's all I'm saying. There's no need to make any bold predictions, about who you think is going to be the starter. Doing so only amounts to conjecture. Also..I wouldn't be surprised if Enos relies on a 2 QB system when it's all said and done. That's one way to make sure no one becomes complacent.
 
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I don't care how talented our QB will be, I care that whomever it is is a refuse to lose QB. Dam Marino was awesome but not a winner, Bob Griese was far less talented but won championships. We've had far more talented qb's then Steve Walsh but he simply won games. Give me the guy with ice in his veins that loves pressure situations.
 
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reg said:
No, I do not agree that Nkosi should be be the starter on 08/24, just because he is the only QB with experience. I also don't agree with all of the hate that Nkosi receives from our fanbase. If Nkosi is the starter, it should be because he was the best QB, the same way it should be for the other two that is competing for the starting gig.

We have nothing definitive from the coaches that we can go off of, regarding who will be the starter. What we know is Nkosi won the most improved QB award for the spring, which was given by the coaches and was based on overall performance from the beginning to the end of spring practices. Since then, Tate has won the weight room battle 2 out of 4 weeks and Peyton Machato has done the same. That's all we "know." Everything else is just d'ick riding and guesswork!
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Only 1 1/2 months more of this until 8/24 @reg. Until then we’ll have to keep deferring to the fact that no QB starter has been announced and all 3 are still in the race until such time. Keep the faith mate, keep the faith.
 
D RevLee said:
If Urban recruited Tate the chances of him being a "good QB" are more likely than if some regular coach recruited him. What QBs has Urban missed on? U gave Tebow and JT as examples as if that were a bad thing... both are national championship winning QBs. Enos already said that he would tailor the offense around whatever QB wins the job.

OSU told Tate to walk bc 1. The guy who wanted him there left, and 2. Fields is a better QB. No one is saying Tate is better than Fields.

The "Tate can't throw" is simply a false narrative. There is film of him throwing 50 yard TDs or him scrambling to his left and hitting a WR on the money. U act as if we haven't already had a spring game. Can u show many any throw he wasn't capable of making?... Didn't think so. U don't need an all pro arm to win in CFB. We won 10 games with Malik Rosier. Tate has a better arm than him. Nick Marshall lead Auburn to national championship and beat Alabama. Tate has a better arm than him also.

We run a west coast offense or "spread coast" and if u know anything about football then u would know in a west coast offense the WRs do all the leg work. U get the ball out quick on short to intermediate routes to your receivers. Exactly what we saw in the spring game.

U and other people on here give yourself away. U say "I just want the best QB" but then the only time u have a rebuttal is when someone mentions Tate. U don't do that with Jarren. U don't do that with Kosi. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
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I burst out laughing when people say "urban can't recruit QBs, look at JT and Tebow"
 
D RevLee said:
It doesn't make any sense. I was never a fan of Tebow but I had to respect his game.
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People seem to think that if the player is a bust in the NFL then it means they weren't good in college.

If I was an NFL head coach I wouldn't trust an Urban QB, but if I am a college HC I would love to grab an Urban QB.
 
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