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Ethnicsands said:
We are at the point where our next coach must be an offensive innovator.

We hired clappy as a caretaker, radio as some sort of aspirational recruiter, gluten as some sort of ceo friend of dorito two-fer. Then CMR as ceo or something stable whatever blah blah. No alleged ceo worth his salt is going to even take the job in 2 years when richt retires to build homes in other countries. What’s the saying for fool me five times? We will need someone who can come in and make things exciting quickly, without the time to rebuild line talent. That means spread air assault. Generate belief through points on board. No ice cream socials.

What star up n coming ceo coach is signing up for a rebuild on top of a rebuild on top of a rebuild on top of a rebuild?
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I’m still ok with the head coach being a CEO. But a CEO that puts that best staff in place to make the company successful, not a CEO that gives jobs to his friends and kids who aren’t qualified. And doesn’t listen to ideas to improve the company.
 
TemplarCane said:
Who would you hire?
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I already posted...Dino Babers.

If you like Kendal Briles (I don't know why, but ok)...then Dino should your top choice.

Has shown he can win his conference (@ Bowling Green, twice @ EIU).
Has shown he can beat Clemson.
Has shown he can beat Florida State.

Total Offense - 14th, 23rd, 42nd @ Cuse ... 4th, 43rd @ BGSU
Runs the football on average 40 times per game as a D1 coach.

I don't care if he's old.

He would be a great choice.

He would need a good defensive coordinator choice, but otherwise, I like him.

re: Matt Campbell

I like him a lot, but the total resume is lacking for my liking. Also, I am not sure our fanbase gives Campbell time. If you take on Campbell, you're in for a total culture rebuild and that will take time I am not sure he will be afforded.
 
JHallCanes said:
As much overreaction and over swinging the pendulum in the other direction usually leads to another ****** situation, I think this is where we need to be as well.

It’s an offensive game now and with our recruiting grounds it’s just the next logical move.

Briles is an intriguing name. Don’t get more “young, innovative” than that.

I would like to kick the tires of Matt Campbell from Iowa State. Offensive background, had some success in big games for mediocre programs, always seems to have his teams ready etc

Jason Candle from Toledo and Neal Brown from Troy are also interesting candidates that are already HCs
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I was always a huge proponent of staying pro-style on offense but over the last 5 years I have completely changed my tune. Give me the spread all day long. Give some coach access to South Florida Receivers and backs and let him create mismatches all over the field.

Everyone is quick to bring up Briles name, but what about his boss Major Applewhite? As long as he leave No-D in Houston of course.
 
BoxingRobes said:
I already posted...Dino Babers.

If you like Kendal Briles (I don't know why, but ok)...then Dino should your top choice.

Has shown he can win his conference (@ Bowling Green, twice @ EIU).
Has shown he can beat Clemson.
Has shown he can beat Florida State.

Total Offense - 14th, 23rd, 42nd @ Cuse ... 4th, 43rd @ BGSU
Runs the football on average 40 times per game as a D1 coach.

I don't care if he's old.

He would be a great choice.

He would need a good defensive coordinator choice, but otherwise, I like him.

re: Matt Campbell

I like him a lot, but the total resume is lacking for my liking. Also, I am not sure our fanbase gives Campbell time. If you take on Campbell, you're in for a total culture rebuild and that will take time I am not sure he will be afforded.
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Oh no, a young stud HC has a short resume. Time for him to build it at UM then.

This is the shortsighted thinking that has us in this ****hole. For the record I like Babers also, but I'm not passing on a guy like Campbell for him.
 
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kryptonite said:
Disagree.

The most important traits for a HC have nothing to do with being an offensive or defensive genius, you can hire people for that. What you can't hire is a guy to motivate your team for you. A guy to convince HS kids they should play for you, and their parents that it's smart to let their kids play for you. You can't hire somebody to schmooze with donors and HS coaches.

I have no problem with an offensive mastermind as HC, but I'd just as soon see a guy who's overseeing masterminds and concentrating on making the whole show run.

On paper, Richt is what I want in a HC. His failure isn't that he's not an offensive genius, it's that he doesn't have the sense to hire one and concentrate on being in charge.
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Dabo Swiney at Clemson is a prime example of this. DS has made outstanding hires.
 
mirvin88 said:
Oh no, a young stud HC has a short resume. Time for him to build it at UM then.

This is the shortsighted thinking that has us in this ****hole. For the record I like Babers also, but I'm not passing on a guy like Campbell for him.
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This was a critique of Goldens before he got here and the response was similar...he can build it here.

Its not short sighted, but once bitten, twice shy. I'm very hesitant on former MAC Coaches that haven't won the MAC. Its not a steadfast rule, but the exceptions are few and far between of MAC Coaches that jump up and succeed after not winning the MAC.

Babers...and depending on how Buffalo finishes the year, Lance Leipold are two current/former MAC Coaches I might like more than Campbell.

For the record, I like Campbell quite a bit, but I think the trajectory of his career is tough to gauge so far. Lets keep it real, the man has never won 10 games in a season yet. Never won a division title at any level as a head coach.
 
Dino Babers has done wonders at CUSE. I have a good friend who coaches D2 and knows Babers well and said Babers was shocked at how bad HS football was in NY and the lack of enthusiasm for the sport. Coming from Ohio where the state lives football of all levels he was shocked. To see what he's done with CUSE in a short time is amazing.

Campbell is a rising name who has done wonders in no mans land as well.

Someone brought up Toledo's coach. He's also done well.

The next coach needs to be an up an comer with a spread offense background. Sorry but that's where the sport is going and the talent in S FL would supply this team with serious playmakers for it. The OL is always lacking so get the ball to the wr quick. Perfect for the talent in the area.

We all know its not going to happen so the best hope is an up an coming offensive coordinator who gets to do his thing with the athletes.
 
Ethnicsands said:
We are at the point where our next coach must be an offensive innovator.

We hired clappy as a caretaker, radio as some sort of aspirational recruiter, gluten as some sort of ceo friend of dorito two-fer. Then CMR as ceo or something stable whatever blah blah. No alleged ceo worth his salt is going to even take the job in 2 years when richt retires to build homes in other countries. What’s the saying for fool me five times? We will need someone who can come in and make things exciting quickly, without the time to rebuild line talent. That means spread air assault. Generate belief through points on board. No ice cream socials.

What star up n coming ceo coach is signing up for a rebuild on top of a rebuild on top of a rebuild on top of a rebuild?
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Look at the top 10 and see how many teams have a true "CEO type" vs a guy who was a great coordinator...

Of the top 10, I'd say 4 teams have a CEO type (Swinney, Saban, Oregeron, Harbaugh). The common link with these guys is that they have seasoned/very good coordinators on both sides of the ball. I don't know that the answer is a CEO type vs an innovative ex-coordinator but I do know that if you are the CEO type, you better have great coordinators.
 
Miami isn't the job that good to great coaches are lining up for. This program will never recover the past few coaching hires.

Here is what will happen. When Richt leaves, everyone here will drink the Kool aid the next coach is selling. A few years after the new coach posts average number, everyone will turn on him and demand his resignation.

Rinse and repeat.
 
BoxingRobes said:
I already posted...Dino Babers.

If you like Kendal Briles (I don't know why, but ok)...then Dino should your top choice.

Has shown he can win his conference (@ Bowling Green, twice @ EIU).
Has shown he can beat Clemson.
Has shown he can beat Florida State.

Total Offense - 14th, 23rd, 42nd @ Cuse ... 4th, 43rd @ BGSU
Runs the football on average 40 times per game as a D1 coach.

I don't care if he's old.

He would be a great choice.

He would need a good defensive coordinator choice, but otherwise, I like him.

re: Matt Campbell

I like him a lot, but the total resume is lacking for my liking. Also, I am not sure our fanbase gives Campbell time. If you take on Campbell, you're in for a total culture rebuild and that will take time I am not sure he will be afforded.
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I like both of those candidates.

Re: Matt Campbell. If the team shows annual improvement Campbell shouldn’t have a problem. Richt’s team is in decline in Year 3, after ascending in years 1 and 2. A decline due to his mismanagement. Campbell has beaten 3 Top 6 teams in his last 20 games (Oklahoma and TCU last season, West Virginia this season), at Iowa State. That’s impressive.

I like Briles because I think he’s a brilliant offensive mind. He could be the next Lincoln Riley. I’d want to hear his ideas for running a program, defense, and everything, of course. His job hopping is due to the scandal at Baylor. Had that not happened he would likely still be there, working with his father. FAU, and Houston, are temporary jobs until an OC or HC position at a P5. Take a chance now.
 
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Canesfan1899 said:
I was always a huge proponent of staying pro-style on offense but over the last 5 years I have completely changed my tune. Give me the spread all day long. Give some coach access to South Florida Receivers and backs and let him create mismatches all over the field.

Everyone is quick to bring up Briles name, but what about his boss Major Applewhite? As long as he leave No-D in Houston of course.
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Applewhite hired D’Nofrio. Major demerits.
 
TemplarCane said:
At this point I would accept Leach.
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We'd beat Virginia and BC more often with him. A team with a good O will usually at least outscore opponents like this, even with an average D. When you can't beat Pitt, UVA, and BC, you have serious issues.
 
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