MEGA New Miami Adidas Ultraboost🔥 - The Shoe and Nike/Adidas Thread.

Sounds...sooo....familiar....

I would be thrilled if Nike and adidas can work out a sign-and-trade for Tennessee and Miami...

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Sounds...sooo....familiar....

I would be thrilled if Nike and adidas can work out a sign-and-trade for Tennessee and Miami...

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UTenn fans r not happy about this, including former players. I’ve heard Adidas is throwing a big bag & used Candace Parker, as well.

The crazy part is most of UTenn’s influential athletes that played for UTenn under the Adidas umbrella r now practically all Nike athletes, except Candace.

I know Nike’s mission, & I know they’ve off loaded some futbol brands that weren’t generating revenue. They’re getting back to their basics, & Elliot’s plan was to corner the athletic market again. The plan is slowly coming to fruition as Nike’s stock has been rising after its precipitous fall. I also know UTenn have actually profited under the arrangement due to royalties.

However, UTenn wants UGA, Bama evaluation. It also doesn’t help that Auburn had a bag thrown at them. So I’m diligently monitoring this situation as Nike may let them go b/c they have a helluva renewal year coming up for UGA & Bama; both will b demanding higher evaluations! Then u have other programs that they r eyeing next year, including another SEC school.

Nike could be playing coy like they did w Brazil, France, b/c they have the first right to refuse, Adidas had to show their hand. I’ve seen more reports on Adidas having these offers, how it’s a done deal, & boom: Nike rips their heart out.
 
UTenn fans r not happy about this, including former players. I’ve heard Adidas is throwing a big bag & used Candace Parker, as well.

The crazy part is most of UTenn’s influential athletes that played for UTenn under the Adidas umbrella r now practically all Nike athletes, except Candace.

I know Nike’s mission, & I know they’ve off loaded some futbol brands that weren’t generating revenue. They’re getting back to their basics, & Elliot’s plan was to corner the athletic market again. The plan is slowly coming to fruition as Nike’s stock has been rising after its precipitous fall. I also know UTenn have actually profited under the arrangement due to royalties.

However, UTenn wants UGA, Bama evaluation. It also doesn’t help that Auburn had a bag thrown at them. So I’m diligently monitoring this situation as Nike may let them go b/c they have a helluva renewal year coming up for UGA & Bama; both will b demanding higher evaluations! Then u have other programs that they r eyeing next year, including another SEC school.

Nike could be playing coy like they did w Brazil, France, b/c they have the first right to refuse, Adidas had to show their hand. I’ve seen more reports on Adidas having these offers, how it’s a done deal, & boom: Nike rips their heart out.
UTenn has over valued themselves for years. They desperately want to be considered a blue blood even touting 6 NC’s - 4 in the 20’s and 30’s that were nowhere near unanimous, the one in ‘58/9 with Johnny Majors and their last one in ‘98 without Manning.
 
If we switch to Nike in a year or two, what are the chances we keep our uniforms minus small tweaks? Or are we likely to go to a whole new concept?
 
UTenn has over valued themselves for years. They desperately want to be considered a blue blood even touting 6 NC’s - 4 in the 20’s and 30’s that were nowhere near unanimous, the one in ‘58/9 with Johnny Majors and their last one in ‘98 without Manning.

UTenn, ND, & Texas A&M r 3 of the more overrated, delusional fan bases that overvalue their worth. At least w ND, I can make a reasonable excuse citing their pre-WWII history + late 70’s-80’s, along w ND having been in multiple BCS Nat’l Title games/CFP participants recently.

UTenn want to be something they r not. That’s like us claiming Minnesota, Army, Princeton, etc r blue bloods b/c of what they did in the past. UTenn just became relevant again in the past 2-3 yrs, after being a virtual 3-8 win program on any given yr from 2005-2021. Why they think they’re on Bama or UGA level is beyond me.
 
UTenn, ND, & Texas A&M r 3 of the more overrated, delusional fan bases that overvalue their worth. At least w ND, I can make a reasonable excuse citing their pre-WWII history + late 70’s-80’s, along w ND having been in multiple BCS Nat’l Title games/CFP participants recently.

UTenn want to be something they r not. That’s like us claiming Minnesota, Army, Princeton, etc r blue bloods b/c of what they did in the past. UTenn just became relevant again in the past 2-3 yrs, after being a virtual 3-8 win program on any given yr from 2005-2021. Why they think they’re on Bama or UGA level is beyond me.


Good news is that ND is UnderArmour, aTm is adidas, and Tennessee may be adidas soon.

Leave Nike to the ORIGINAL Nike school, The University of Miami!
 
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If these numbers r remotely true, good bye UTenn. There’s no way in the world their value is bigger than O$U, ND, UT, Bama, or UGA. This is one of those Under Armour deals that I guarantee Adidas will be looking to adjust by year 4-5. Merchandise sales will drop, & Tennessee will not give Adidas the exposure they r looking for.

These r the kind of deals that got Adidas into financial issues in the past; if u want UTenn to be the face of ur brand, then this is a dumber company than I initially thought. It’s already bad that they give every player they have a signature shoe, devaluing their market, but giving a school like UTenn $20/yr??? That’s asinine. $9-10m, sure, but not $20m
 
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I told u, personally, back in 2020 how we were going to be eventually treated, just like Michigan. Unfortunately, Adidas is looking for the next, & tend to treat their new toys like old toys when exposure is not what they want: Go ask Trae Young & Tracy McGrady this.


You warned me.

No joke, I have truly appreciated your insights and education via our DMs. As much as I’ve loved Nike my whole life, I bought the bull**** mythology that Beta Blake made up to trash Nike and force adidas.
 
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Holy ****…they remind me of those Sketchers shoes they marketed to us ladies years ago that allegedly toned your *** 🤣

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Just an FYI, Hokas are selling very well right now. Even Nike are releasing shoes that mirror that silhouette, because the shoes are very comfortable and people like them. People are starting to realize that wearing uncomfortable shoes for "Style" is a fools errand, hence why brands like New Balance and others are doing better now than they were 10-15 years ago. The sneakerheads from a decade ago are starting to age into the dad shoe category and the brands are moving right along with them.
 
He’s not wrong, Adidas is second rate

If Adidas offers a financial figure that is significantly better than what Nike is willing to reup for, then you take the better deal. Again, this is BUSINESS. In a world where revenue matters more than ever, you can't afford to short yourself, just so some dumbass fan, who most likely buys 1-2 shirts per year(AT MOST) can run their mouth. I wonder if Nike isn't willing to match, because they are starting to realize that paying fair market value isn't feasible for their huge stable of schools. Keep in mind, Nike was able to build this stable on the back of undervaluing properties for decades, because there was limited competition for schools. Adidas has shown that they are at least willing to compete for schools, and with their worldwide reach, they have the money to do so.

Either way, Miami will have an opportunity to push for more, provided the on field product continues to improve.
 
If Adidas offers a financial figure that is significantly better than what Nike is willing to reup for, then you take the better deal. Again, this is BUSINESS. In a world where revenue matters more than ever, you can't afford to short yourself, just so some dumbass fan, who most likely buys 1-2 shirts per year(AT MOST) can run their mouth. I wonder if Nike isn't willing to match, because they are starting to realize that paying fair market value isn't feasible for their huge stable of schools. Keep in mind, Nike was able to build this stable on the back of undervaluing properties for decades, because there was limited competition for schools. Adidas has shown that they are at least willing to compete for schools, and with their worldwide reach, they have the money to do so.

Either way, Miami will have an opportunity to push for more, provided the on field product continues to improve.


Please stop with the absolute BULL**** of “if adidas offers a better deal”. That is a distractor. That is pre-rationalization of surrender.

First, we are acting like a couple million really makes a difference. It doesn’t. This staggering $20M number being offered to Tennessee is a fraction of the needy sucking hole known as the Tennessee Athletic budget. And nobody is saying “do it for free”. But people ignore the fact that the likely contract offer between Nike and adidas will be…MAYBE the cost of one blue-chip player.

So while the money differential may be significant to, say, Davidson University, it should not be the sole determinant for Miami. The amount of suck-tax that Miami has paid over the past 10 years for being an adidas school in the ACC is staggering, and far exceeds the extra pennies from adidas.

Second, it’s sad to see all this pontificating about how this is a “BUSINESS” coming from guys who have never seen a multi-million dollar business deal up close. I have routinely seen sellers take “less guaranteed cash money” in favor of other factors, such as the strength of the buyer (equity comp usually exceeds cash comp, all other things being equal). We have a bunch of scaredy-cat fans who think we should take the easy guaranteed money instead of betting on ourselves, our brand, and our success.

We have Mario. We have Jai. We will have a replacement for JD someday. A winning Miami is a top 10 merch brand in the country. Not just in Tennessee where there is no other competitive university. Coast-to-coast, people wear The U and respond to The U. So let’s get a 15% royalty rate from Jordan Brand and then go out and sell the **** out of some co-branded Miami-Big 10 merch. And **** whatever 2nd place adidas offers.

Miami’s Athletic Department will not succeed or fail on a million or two extra that is offered for our merch rights. But we will certainly suffer if recruits continue to perceive us as a second-tier program in a second-tier conference rocking second-tier uniforms and selling second-tier merch.

Now THAT is a suck-tax, no matter how many games we win against Boston College and Wake Forest.
 
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Please stop with the absolute BULL**** of “if adidas offers a better deal”. That is a distractor. That is pre-rationalization of surrender.

First, we are acting like a couple million really makes a difference. It doesn’t. This staggering $20M number being offered to Tennessee is a fraction of the needy sucking hole known as the Tennessee Athletic budget. And nobody is saying “do it for free”. But people ignore the fact that the likely contract offer between Nike and adidas will be…MAYBE the cost of one blue-chip player.

So while the money differential may be significant to, say, Davidson University, it should not be the sole determinant for Miami. The amount of suck-tax that Miami has paid over the past 10 years for being an adidas school in the ACC is staggering, and far exceeds the extra pennies from adidas.

Second, it’s sad to see all this pontificating about how this is a “BUSINESS” coming from guys who have never seen a multi-million dollar business deal up close. I have routinely seen sellers take “less guaranteed cash money” in favor of other factors, such as the strength of the buyer (equity comp usually exceeds cash comp, all other things being equal). We have a bunch of scaredy-cat fans who think we should take the easy guaranteed money instead of betting on ourselves, our brand, and our success.

We have Mario. We have Jai. We will have a replacement for JD someday. A winning Miami is a top 10 merch brand in the country. Not just in Tennessee where there is no other competitive university. Coast-to-coast, people wear The U and respond to The U. So let’s get a 15% royalty rate from Jordan Brand and then go out and sell the **** out of some co-branded Miami-Big 10 merch. And **** whatever 2nd place adidas offers.

Miami’s Athletic Department will not succeed or fail on a million or two extra that is offered for our merch rights. But we will certainly suffer if recruits continue to perceive us as a second-tier program in a second-tier conference rocking second-tier uniforms and selling second-tier merch.

Now THAT is a suck-tax, no matter how many games we win against Boston College and Wake Forest.

It amazes me this rhetoric is still spewed. I’m also old enough to remember that same poster was on their high horse talking about how Adidas prioritized us, ignoring all of the language violations that occurred; &, after that was thoroughly debunked via empirical evidence, they go right back to their rudimentary argument of “they pay more $$.” Lol

One of my biggest issues in life in this era of social media & its various platforms is that it’s empowering ppl w little to no experience, connection, or research to constantly be loud & wrong. It also irks me the length of those that r confronted w evidence find a way to constantly move goal post so they can continue on the parade of being loud & wrong.

The only thing I agree w is this is a business, & as a business it’s up to u thoroughly vet & leverage all tangible points to negotiate the best possible outcome. So if I’m UTenn, I’m going to ask:
What r the contingencies of this alleged $20m?

How much of this is cash flow vs. equipment cost?

Are royalties involved & at what percentage?

How much is allocated towards NIL?

What does the face of Adidas look like compared to a KU, Texas A&M or Miami since they, too, were promised this?

What are the parameters, or loop holes that can negate this offer?

If royalties are involved, what are the sales looking like for Adidas products vs. Nike? In fact compare apparel sales pre-Nike & post Nike & see if it’s comparable.

Now w all that info, u bring it back to Nike. Nike may say, hypothetically, “Based upon our tier rating, we can’t match that $20m; but, here’s what we can do:
Offer a $10m rate, w performance bonuses for the football, basketball, & baseball programs. We’ll provide u w NIL opportunities for current student athletes, & w/ our policies along w being the current leader of HS NIL, u’ll have a greater chance of securing the top HS recruits. We’ll also have ur royalties set at 15% on all branded items, along w the opportunity of equipment conversion into cash. This package will not only allow u to remain competitive, provide an influx of cash flow throughout ur AD, but also drive more traffic to ur brand for long term benefits.”

That right there is business, that’s negotiation; not, “ooooo, they say they’re going to pay more $$, so let’s take it.”

The Jamaican Track team was offered a lucrative deal by Adidas, I mean big $$; they renewed w Puma. U know y? B/c of all the off-track benefits that Puma provided to a proud T&F program. Puma saw the offer, tweaked theirs & voila.

UTenn may indeed go back to Adidas, & I guarantee they’ll regret it in about 5 yrs just like all the other programs. Oh, here’s another article highlighting how Adidas will easily look to exploit loop holes when “paying” big $$ to pull a program from Nike.

 
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