MEGA New Miami Adidas Ultraboost🔥 - The Shoe and Nike/Adidas Thread.

[252cane]

At the end of the day, I’m in support of whatever brand gives us the best deal. We could go out to games wearing our practice uniforms and I honestly wouldn’t give a **** lol. I get it — you’re passionate about this stuff. The uniforms we’ve had the last few years have, in my opinion, been the best we’ve ever had, so it’s one of those things where if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.

As far as the “athletic wear” goes, I tend to avoid both Nike and Adidas. I don’t particularly love either brand’s stuff, and there are probably 10 other brands I’d rather wear. Even with running shoes, I usually just go to Fleet Feet because there are a lot of better options. As long as it has a cool Miami design, I’ll buy it. The brand itself doesn’t matter that much to me. There are so many brands out there that sell canes gear

My friend, I am not just "passionate about this stuff". I've actually worked in this area when I was with NASCAR (apparel contracts, marketing, co-branding, etc.). This is why I am insistent upon "actual facts and data" for our apparel deals, rather than Harry yapping about how Nike gives "bad customer service" (which somehow is not a complaint at the 100 other schools that work with Nike) or random Miami fans spinning archaic myths on how big bad Nike hated Miami 12 years ago and treated us like a dog.

So when you speak of "best deal", it MIGHT...hear me out...just MIGHT be a good idea to put two vicious animals in a ring to let them battle it out. I fail to see how a bid-free award of renewal rights to adidas will yield a "best deal", particularly given how quickly adidas gave Louisville a better deal than Miami's deal 10 years ago. Do you personally think we will get a "best deal" by giving adidas the inside-track and not allowing a comparable Nike presentation or bid? Even Michael Jordan wanted to pick adidas in 1984, before he heard what Nike had to say.

Right now...right now...Utah is about to flip from UnderArmour to adidas. Yay, another non-blue-blood on the adidas roster. Yay. Seriously, besides Miami, who are the college football blue-bloods with adidas?

Nebraska? Washington? GaTech? Indiana? Those are all schools that have won a championship in the last 40 years, but it's not an impressive roster of football teams (except maybe for Indiana, who was **** for the prior 39 years).

If these are our peers, just kill me now. Can't we be mentioned in the same breath as Alabama or Southern Cal or Georgia or Clemson or Michigan or Taint or even (god help me) Florida?

We. Were. THE FIRST-EVER ALL-NIKE SCHOOL. That should mean something. Instead, we have a bunch of people arguing over how much we should value a throwback uniform that became our permanent uniform, as if that is the apex of our considerations.

But to the point of it not being any big brand teams with adidas and now that miami is putting out a good product again wouldn’t that make it more likely that they would be willing to offer big money to keep them?

I like Nike better than adidas but I don’t think they are going to be willing to pay Miami what adidas will. Kansas has the biggest deal with adidas at 196 and then Louisville at 160. It was rumored that miami got over 90 million on the last deal. They could be looking at 200 million on the next deal. Osu and texas are the only schools over 200 million with Nike

 

[Canesfan1993]

A&M, Penn St, Nebraska, Washington, Tennessee, Kansas all other adidas schools. Utah is moving to 3 stripe along with a few others. Adidas is making an effort in the NIL space that programs are noticing and is needed in new era. Not saying nike isnt. But just because nike is the predominant brand historically doesn't mean they will be in next decade nor does it mean they are willing to meet miami at what adidas is (not saying they aren't either). I could care less on the other stuff. Just give us the most competitive $ available to fund our rosters. And now I'll turn off notifications before the Nike zombies attack.

 

[Calinative]

But to the point of it not being any big brand teams with adidas and now that miami is putting out a good product again wouldn’t that make it more likely that they would be willing to offer big money to keep them?

I like Nike better than adidas but I don’t think they are going to be willing to pay Miami what adidas will. Kansas has the biggest deal with adidas at 196 and then Louisville at 160. It was rumored that miami got over 90 million on the last deal. They could be looking at 200 million on the next deal. Osu and texas are the only schools over 200 million with Nike

If Adidas is smart with the investments we are making in the athletic department, it can be a real flywheel. We should absolutely be Adidas #1 priority in the entire country. As far as CFB opportunities and how they are much better internationally especially with soccer, Miami and LA are THE cities to try to own for them. And they lost UCLA to Jordan. And now they’ve made the investments into HS in Miami. So… I legit think we are their only hope of having an elite brand in CFB. And for them we are in the ideal area of the country.

I think we will by far be Adidas #1 priority going forward. Which is why I think we will get best offer from them.


It should be an open competition though, def should consider Nike+Jordan before just extending with Adidas. I just don’t expect them to offer better deal

 

[423Hurricane]

We can wear pajamas for all I care. Orange and green of course. Like a bunch of girls arguing about what clothes to wear to junior prom. Have some of unis our been hideous? Absolutely. Main thing that matters to me is W’s.

 

[Hurracanes]

Arguing with @TheOriginalCane over Nike and Adidas uniforms is like trying to argue with Cody Campbell and Texas Tech about why gambling on college sports is wrong and you should do something about it. Just in reverse

Good Luck

 

[Hufftwoseven]

Are we getting the 2001 template jersey vs Pitt?

 

[Calinative]

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Are we getting the 2001 template jersey vs Pitt?

Good thought

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I am not a fan of Adidas fan gear - nothing is consistent, from quality of clothes to sizing to design. Sometimes I just want the exact same shirt in all the school colors, and they come out with same designs for 2-3 colors, and then the 4th they change it up.

That said, the actual jersey technology leaves a lot to be desired by Adidas. I think someone posted the differences in that and how the end fit for players is better with Nike.

And then you have the brands themselves - in basketball more than football, Nike is signing HS kids and they don’t go to Adidas schools. Adidas signs some kids, but they don’t care where they go, they are more interested in their pro years. Which doesn’t help Miami.

Lastly, if we insist on staying with Adidas because they give us best pricing, than we can we have someone who will hold Adidas to the contract? I am 95 percent sure we probably have a favored nations clause in our contract, but 10 minutes after we sign, another school comes along and gets more. We need someone to monitor that and ensure we are the true flagship program (especially since they are selling that in partnership with the soccer guy).

Agree completely.

I've literally been in Hurricanes Team Store looking at a polo, and then I find that a different color of the same shirt has 2 or 3 different design elements. It's bizarre. No rhyme or reason.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

But to the point of it not being any big brand teams with adidas and now that miami is putting out a good product again wouldn’t that make it more likely that they would be willing to offer big money to keep them?

I like Nike better than adidas but I don’t think they are going to be willing to pay Miami what adidas will. Kansas has the biggest deal with adidas at 196 and then Louisville at 160. It was rumored that miami got over 90 million on the last deal. They could be looking at 200 million on the next deal. Osu and texas are the only schools over 200 million with Nike

I promise you, corporations like Nike and adidas are not in the charity business. They are not going to offer Miami "200 million" on the next deal because we made one CFP final.

The only way that Miami elevates its numbers is via competitive bidding. And by not ****ing and moaning about how Nike "isn't willing to pay what adidas will". I'm not criticizing you personally, I'm just talking about the process. Having a bunch of Miami fans yapping about how Nike doesn't want to do business with us and how we are probably going to re-sign with adidas is what will depress the money.

At a bare minimum, we need to get SOMEBODY involved who drives the price up. Even if used as a bargaining chip, you go back to Nike and tell them how much you want to reunite. Call up Under Armour. ****, call up Lululemon, I don't give a ****. But adidas is not going to pay $200 M without being PUSHED to do so. That's called "negotiating against yourself". It's stupid. So, yeah, I guess adidas MIGHT be stupid, but there is literally no reason to pay Miami tens of millions more than ANYONE ELSE is willing to pay Miami.

Finally, for the love of God, I hope nobody thinks we are getting $200 M in CASH. That's not how these work. About 1/3 of an apparel deal is cash and about 2/3 is in-kind equipment, merch, marketing, etc.

So whenever you see the announced number, divide by 3 to figure out how much cash we will be paid.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I think we will by far be Adidas #1 priority going forward. Which is why I think we will get best offer from them.

This is just magical thinking.

You have zero basis for saying this. In fact, you have evidence AGAINST this statement, like adidas rushing out to give Louisville a better deal, even though we had a most-favored-nations clause.

The first two words are key.

"I think".

Yeah, you think. Thinking doesn't make it so. You can "think" we will get our best offer from adidas. And if we do, it's not because Miami is a "priority going forward", but because another competitor drove adidas to go higher than they wanted to go.

Or have you not observed the college sports industry over the past 5 years.

 

[ICANEDOIT]

Nike shoes look great but are the worst of the worst. Like those ****ers don't even try to make a comfortable shoe, in any style. Truly a ****** shoe.

 

[252cane]

But to the point of it not being any big brand teams with adidas and now that miami is putting out a good product again wouldn’t that make it more likely that they would be willing to offer big money to keep them?

I like Nike better than adidas but I don’t think they are going to be willing to pay Miami what adidas will. Kansas has the biggest deal with adidas at 196 and then Louisville at 160. It was rumored that miami got over 90 million on the last deal. They could be looking at 200 million on the next deal. Osu and texas are the only schools over 200 million with Nike

I promise you, corporations like Nike and adidas are not in the charity business. They are not going to offer Miami "200 million" on the next deal because we made one CFP final.

The only way that Miami elevates its numbers is via competitive bidding. And by not ****ing and moaning about how Nike "isn't willing to pay what adidas will". I'm not criticizing you personally, I'm just talking about the process. Having a bunch of Miami fans yapping about how Nike doesn't want to do business with us and how we are probably going to re-sign with adidas is what will depress the money.

At a bare minimum, we need to get SOMEBODY involved who drives the price up. Even if used as a bargaining chip, you go back to Nike and tell them how much you want to reunite. Call up Under Armour. ****, call up Lululemon, I don't give a ****. But adidas is not going to pay $200 M without being PUSHED to do so. That's called "negotiating against yourself". It's stupid. So, yeah, I guess adidas MIGHT be stupid, but there is literally no reason to pay Miami tens of millions more than ANYONE ELSE is willing to pay Miami.

Finally, for the love of God, I hope nobody thinks we are getting $200 M in CASH. That's not how these work. About 1/3 of an apparel deal is cash and about 2/3 is in-kind equipment, merch, marketing, etc.

So whenever you see the announced number, divide by 3 to figure out how much cash we will be paid.

I hear what you saying but louisville got 160 10 years ago. I know it’s not all about football but it’s the top sport in America and louisville has never done anything. Kansas got almost 200 and they are a bball school. Just based off the market and the brands with them even if it isn’t 200 it’s going to at least be between louisville and Kansas.


And you say bidding against themselves but that doesn’t matter. It’s about value and the market. It’s like having your Qb contract coming up with 1 year left. That qb is going to look around the league at what other guys got. They are going to say ok this guy got 38mil and this guy got 40mil. He is going to say I’m coming off a career year and I want to be the highest paid give me 42mil

I’m sure they will work behind the scenes to gauge what potentially other companies would be willing to pay

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I hear what you saying but louisville got 160 10 years ago. I know it’s not all about football but it’s the top sport in America and louisville has never done anything. Kansas got almost 200 and they are a bball school. Just based off the market and the brands with them even if it isn’t 200 it’s going to at least be between louisville and Kansas.


And you say bidding against themselves but that doesn’t matter. It’s about value and the market. It’s like having your Qb contract coming up with 1 year left. That qb is going to look around the league at what other guys got. They are going to say ok this guy got 38mil and this guy got 40mil. He is going to say I’m coming off a career year and I want to be the highest paid give me 42mil

I’m sure they will work behind the scenes to gauge what potentially other companies would be willing to pay

With all due respect, @Rellyrell has written about adidas and Under Armour and others overpaying in the past, and having remorse.

The fact that "Louisville got 160 10 years ago" doesn't mean ****. I realize that Trump loves inflation, but you can't count on inflation to run up every contract in history.

Whatever happened before...might not happen again. Who knows. But adidas isn't about to promise us more money and equipment because they were nice to Louisville 10 years ago.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Nike shoes look great but are the worst of the worst. Like those ****ers don't even try to make a comfortable shoe, in any style. Truly a ****** shoe.

I have nearly 100 pairs of very comfortable Nike shoes.

 

[Snoop]

Can't see us leaving Adidas as long as the Más brothers are writing checks.

I agree the Adidas fan gear is horrendous but at least the jerseys look good now.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Can't see us leaving Adidas as long as the Más brothers are writing checks.

I agree the Adidas fan gear is horrendous but at least the jerseys look good now.

All truth.

 

[252cane]

I hear what you saying but louisville got 160 10 years ago. I know it’s not all about football but it’s the top sport in America and louisville has never done anything. Kansas got almost 200 and they are a bball school. Just based off the market and the brands with them even if it isn’t 200 it’s going to at least be between louisville and Kansas.


And you say bidding against themselves but that doesn’t matter. It’s about value and the market. It’s like having your Qb contract coming up with 1 year left. That qb is going to look around the league at what other guys got. They are going to say ok this guy got 38mil and this guy got 40mil. He is going to say I’m coming off a career year and I want to be the highest paid give me 42mil

I’m sure they will work behind the scenes to gauge what potentially other companies would be willing to pay

With all due respect, @Rellyrell has written about adidas and Under Armour and others overpaying in the past, and having remorse.

The fact that "Louisville got 160 10 years ago" doesn't mean ****. I realize that Trump loves inflation, but you can't count on inflation to run up every contract in history.

Whatever happened before...might not happen again. Who knows. But adidas isn't about to promise us more money and equipment because they were nice to Louisville 10 years ago.

Supposedly they paid over 90 million on the first deal. A new deal isn’t going to be less money. Even if it isn’t 200 it’s going to crack 100 and Nike isn’t paying that. Bama, uga, clemson, oregon are all making less than 90

 

[Gables Cane]

Nike shoes look great but are the worst of the worst. Like those ****ers don't even try to make a comfortable shoe, in any style. Truly a ****** shoe.

We can debate athletic wear all day long, but when it comes to kicks Nike destroys Adidas.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Supposedly they paid over 90 million on the first deal. A new deal isn’t going to be less money. Even if it isn’t 200 it’s going to crack 100 and Nike isn’t paying that. Bama, uga, clemson, oregon are all making less than 90

First, we were never paid $90M in cash. I wish people would realize that.

Second, you have no idea what Nike would pay.

Miami - 12-year deal valued at $6.55 M per year ($78.6 M total)
Alabama - prior deal was valued at $5.25 M per year (deal was negotiated 2 years before Miami's deal) - deal has been extended at higher pay, undisclosed terms
Georgia - undisclosed right now
Clemson - 10-year $58 million deal
Oregon - 11-year $88 million deal

You want some illustrations of CASH vs. other things:

I've tried to explain this to @DMoney and other people, but maybe now they will listen. Nobody is making a ton of "cash" from their apparel deals, not even the school where Nike was founded.

The amount of money that Miami made in ONE YEAR of a CFP run is greater than the CASH that we made from our entire adidas deal over 12 years.

So when people say "I just want Miami to make more money", those are usually the people who don't realize HOW LITTLE cash is actually paid under these apparel contracts. Two-thirds of these apparel deals are NON-CASH.

 

[OldhamA]

I have nearly 100 pairs of very comfortable Nike shoes.

I own 6 pairs of shoes, total.

I've never understood this infatuation with collecting shoes.