ND Game Next Year

[MiamisMoperiestMopes]

Pitt is a tough team gonna be a dogfight I think

Would be an absolute kick in the stones to beat ND, UiF, FSU, and VT in the same year and come up short of the playoff

I’ve got an almost unreasonable belief that if we beat Pitt it will somehow work out

 

[ssvir]

to be like indiana we'd have to beat the #3 team in the country and beat the #9 team in the country.... to say they play nobodies is hyperbole

Last year Indiana played one team that ended up ranked in the final (OSU) poll and lost.

This year they have played one currently ranked in the T25 team (Oregon) and won. Illinois being ranked #9 when they played was laughable and in that game IL was literally using walk-on DBs b/c of injuries.

You also missed the entire point which was to schedule easily winnable OOC games and focus on the ACC .... this is literally exactly what IU has done the last two years.

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

Pitt is a tough team gonna be a dogfight I think

Would be an absolute kick in the stones to beat ND, UiF, FSU, and VT in the same year and come up short of the playoff

I’ve got an almost unreasonable belief that if we beat Pitt it will somehow work out

I want to be as optimistic as you J lol. I'd be happy with a good game vs Pitt at this point.

The eye test bs narrative has seeped into all the talking heads, they've forgotten the team held UF (SEC) to under 150, smashed an FSU team that at the time had recently beat a Bama team, andddd we kept the dynamic RB duo at ND to what a whopping 76 yards on 35 attempts??? Who's done that?

mindboggling

 

[YLCANE]

I don’t understand how so many of you have had your brain fragmented into unrecognizable pieces of misery and madness.

The *only* reason we are in the at large conversation is *because* we played ND.

“Be like Indiana”? And what? Win all of your conference games? Agree, we should be like Indiana, we’d easily be in the playoff two years running if we’d done that. ****, we could have lost one game both years and we are in it.

Stop making yourself defend irrational positions because we have lost multiple conference games two years in a row. Get out of the pretzel factory, face reality head on: we are in this position because we lost to two inferior teams, one of them at home. The only reason we hav a chance to still make it is because we played ND.

Stop it
Your making too much sense!

Everyone needs to realize we need
To be 11-1 due to being in the ACC it’s that simple
If we were in the SEC or Big Ten, we would get in at 10 and two every year but we aren’t the ACC hurts us. It doesn’t help us.

 

[TwentySix]

i know this mfer aint considering illinois as someone they beat i just know ......

Just gave up 27 points and lost to a Wisconsin team that came in averaging less than 7ppg in conference games, but hey they were number 9 in September.

 

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

I don’t understand how so many of you have had your brain fragmented into unrecognizable pieces of misery and madness.

The *only* reason we are in the at large conversation is *because* we played ND.

“Be like Indiana”? And what? Win all of your conference games? Agree, we should be like Indiana, we’d easily be in the playoff two years running if we’d done that. ****, we could have lost one game both years and we are in it.

Stop making yourself defend irrational positions because we have lost multiple conference games two years in a row. Get out of the pretzel factory, face reality head on: we are in this position because we lost to two inferior teams, one of them at home. The only reason we hav a chance to still make it is because we played ND.

While I agree, nobody was admitting how much of an easy schedule ND had this year. They won against Navy, a 2-9 Purdue, a 2-9 Arkansas, Boise State, and a 1-10 Boston College.

“Most” P5 teams that played their schedule would have 5 wins.

ND was 0-2 and still ranked in the Top 25. They had a horrible loss last year to Northern Illinois and “somehow” still made the playoffs.

I haven’t seen anyone that matters in national media call out their cupcake schedule.

As much as I despise him, I’m going to reach out Stephen A. Smith

 

[YLCANE]

Last year Indiana played one team that ended up ranked in the final (OSU) poll and lost.

This year they have played one currently ranked in the T25 team (Oregon) and won. Illinois being ranked #9 when they was laughable and in that game IL was literally using walk-on DBs b/c of injuries.

You also missed the entire point which was to schedule easily winnable OOC games and focus on the ACC .... this is literally exactly what IU has done the last two years.

They are in the Big Ten if you don’t think that carries weight, I don’t know what to tell you, but the entire country knows the ACC is a joke of a conference so we are not going to be equal with the Big Ten. The Big Ten has a perceived tougher conference whether it’s truly true or not. I’m not sure but that is real reality.

 

[YLCANE]

While I agree, nobody was admitting how much of an easy schedule ND had this year. They won against Navy, a 2-9 Purdue, a 2-9 Arkansas, Boise State, and a 1-10 Boston College.

“Most” P5 teams that played their schedule would have 5 wins.

ND was 0-2 and still ranked in the Top 25. They had a horrible loss last year to Northern Illinois and “somehow” still made the playoffs.

I haven’t seen anyone that matters in national media call out their cupcake schedule.

As much as I despise him, I’m going to reach out Stephen A. Smith

If I’m not mistaken, Navy was ranked when they beat him lol I totally agree with you but I’m just telling you nobody even looks at their dog **** schedule having said that half their schedule is ACC so what does that say?

 

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

If I’m not mistaken, Navy was ranked when they beat him lol I totally agree with you but I’m just telling you nobody even looks at their dog **** schedule having said that half their schedule is ACC so what does that say?

I hear you, but my point was, they beat….Navy.

 

[YLCANE]

I hear you, but my point was, they beat….Navy.

I don’t disagree
I’ve said it on another thread Notre Dame gets credit for beating any team with a pulse
Furthermore, they are part of the great eight
They have always and will always get the benefit of the doubt with local and national media sports writers coaches pundits etccc

It sucks, but that’s the college football reality

 

[SayWhat]

We aren’t getting any credit for beating them this year. I understand what you’re saying but at the same time **** ND and powers that be, putting them in a pedestal and allowing them stay independent with no real penalty.

I'm fine with most of that, but if we had UCF on the schedule as the OP said, we'd just be the 12th placed ACC team (I know we aren't 12th, but we're not making the championship game), same record, and not a single win worth talking about. We'd have zero talking points, wouldn't even deserve to be on the conversation.

We're most certainly getting credit for winning the game. The problem is we aren't getting the credit we deserve for it, you know, since we beat them straight up.

This is similar to FSU getting to play OU in 2000. Same record, we beat FSU, but they made the game.

I also didn't see one person here saying that after a game, teams do get better or worse. We've been at the end of a season in the past saying we're playing the best ball of anyone. Sure, it was a quarter of a century ago, but perceptions can change week to week. Do we look vastly improved or did we need to put an extra TD after a VT slogfest to make itook better?

This team isn't hitting on all cylinders or are they? I can see someone saying the Domers have improved, but I can also argue we beat a common opponent in NCSU by more than they did. We've got Pitt coming up, beat them by more than ND did. We dismantled Stanford and ND will try and beat them by more than we did.

We beat them, three common opponents by more than they did (hope it works out this way) then we should be in. If we aren't it's bias of the highest order. It is already true to some degree, but there is the eye test which isn't new, but that goes out the window if your resume is a heads up win and 3 common opponents you beat by more.

Handle your business and this isn't a conversation. Last thing, SMU is improving after a rocky start. I bet they're kicking themselves about that weird Wake loss and we should be thankful for it or we wouldn't even be in this conversation.

 

[L A M P]

I agree. Make the schedule as easy as possible and try to run the table. Plus it’d be an F you to the committee.

 

[TwentySix]

having said that half their schedule is ACC so what does that say?

They’ve beat 5 ACC teams and 4 of those are currently 11th, 12th, 16th, and 17th in the ACC.

 

[Cajuncane]

If/when the committee screws us we should cancel this game.

Add another home game and play UCF.

Will curb stomp them, get credit for a P4 win, and they will pack the stadium making up for the payment to get out of the ND game.

No point in playing OOC heavyweight games any more. Just follow the Indiana model and schedule layups and try to make the conference title game.

We literally got zero benefit from beating ND and UFag other than the satisfaction of beating down a rival and ND has since rubbed it in our faces even though we won.

No we shouldn’t lose to ****** teams that as a supposed playoff team we shouldn’t lose too especially not twice..

 

[ssvir]

No we shouldn’t lose to ****** teams that as a supposed playoff team we shouldn’t lose too especially not twice..

No **** Sherlock Holmes but that's not the point. There is essentially no incentive to play ND next year. Win and it likely doesn't matter like this year, lose and we're f'd, so it's a lose/lose proposition. Schedule another P4 pantyweight and don't risk a loss.

 

[LeanMeanOrangeGreen]

Play cupcakes, allows us to get more PT for youngsters and get them integrated early and less wear and tear for the ACC. Literally focus all our man power towards 9 game conference schedule, we need to win that by any means necessary. Imagine all the game planning we did for ND and the goiters and put towards UL

Odd theory I’ve always had. Playing cupcakes has never been in our best interest because I don’t think our players, fans, or whoever gets amped up about playing FAU like they would against ND. And I get it. To an extent. Makes me more nervous playing a team like FAU.

 

[IbzRlz]

Agreed we need a full G5 schedule to have chance at playoffs. Might as well just move to the AAC.

Mario would still find a way to lose a game or 2 every year...he can't help himself

 

[Cajuncane]

No **** Sherlock Holmes but that's not the point. There is essentially no incentive to play ND next year. Win and it likely doesn't matter like this year, lose and we're f'd, so it's a lose/lose proposition. Schedule another P4 pantyweight and don't risk a loss.

Maybe we ought to get out of playing SMU and Louisville…we can beat ND..

 

[JD08]

i know this mfer aint considering illinois as someone they beat i just know ......

7-4, yet still ranked 21.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Yall are being way too outcome dependent. The problem isn’t the wins, it’s the losses. It’s wild I have to explain this to grown men.

This isn’t outcome dependent… If the problem is the losses, Then don’t play teams that could give you a loss.

If we play 8 or 9 conference games, then the other 3-4 should be cupcakes.