Mike Rumph

[Dwinstitles]

He lost a recruiting battle to UCF last year too, Brownlee.

Unbelievable forgot about that

But he gets a pass bro cause he gets a pass bruh

Lol

 

[Dude]

Unbelievable forgot about that

But he gets a pass bro cause he gets a pass bruh

Lol

I brought up Brownlee once and got back "Brownlee went to FSU."
Yes, UCF lost out to FSU... after Rumph lost out to UCF.
I wasnt really a big fan of Brownlee, he had talent, but he was a P.I. waiting to happen. The point is that Rumph wanted him and lost him to UCF. Whats funny is everyone knew Brownlee was looking elsewhere but the staff thought he was solid.

 

[gogeta4]

I brought up Brownlee once and got back "Brownlee went to FSU."
Yes, UCF lost out to FSU... after Rumph lost out to UCF.
I wasnt really a big fan of Brownlee, he had talent, but he was a P.I. waiting to happen. The point is that Rumph wanted him and lost him to UCF. Whats funny is everyone knew Brownlee was looking elsewhere but the staff thought he was solid.

EVERY year....they are TERRIBLE with reading recruits. Absolutely terrible. They probably have Flowe as a silent currently.

 

[Dwinstitles]

EVERY year....they are TERRIBLE with reading recruits. Absolutely terrible. They probably have Flowe as a silent currently.

Lmao

Flowe ain't coming man we know that and we ain't even on the scene or in the war room. Staph is clueless

 

[Redstate12]

Golden’s guys s are making plays on Sunday

Good point. No joke good point. But the level of hands on coaching between a position coach and a head coach is different. Banda has late round picks starting. A bunch of safeties in his short time here and they all love em. If he was fired tomorrow I wouldn't trip. Not defending Banda just making the point that while he is far from elite he does have some value. Manny isn't going to get elite coaches under him.

 

[Trafficante]

Again for all of the morons on this hoe *** forum. There is absolutely no comparison between Rumph & Banda. One is noticeably worse than the other, and that's the bottom line.

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[The Franchise]

It’d be interesting to see the overall racial composition of the group that’s constantly running to Rumph’s rescue and using sorry *** Banda as the comparison to prop up Rumph.

The only time we’ve done a good job covering anyone since Manure and his lame crew of HS yes men have been here has been when we trot seniors out there at Safety.

We didn’t cover anyone this year or a couple years ago either. That includes the entire defensive backfield. Both those guys are below average in totality when looking at all of their responsibilities. It’s ok to think they’re both weak. You don’t have to try to prop up HS Rumph by tearing up The Bandtender.

 

[The Franchise]

Rumph is probably the best coach on the staff.

That’s like Rocky Dennis claiming he’s hotter than John Merrick.

 

[Dwinstitles]

It’d be interesting to see the overall racial composition of the group that’s constantly running to Rumph’s rescue and using sorry *** Banda as the comparison to prop up Rumph.

The only time we’ve done a good job covering anyone since Manure and his lame crew of HS yes men have been here has been when we trot seniors out there at Safety.

We didn’t cover anyone this year or a couple years ago either. That includes the entire defensive backfield. Both those guys are below average in totality when looking at all of their responsibilities. It’s ok to think they’re both weak. You don’t have to try to prop up HS Rumph by tearing up The Bandtender.

Preach

 

[simplycanes]

Potato, pototo on which one of these guys is performing worse.

We can go back and forth on whether or not guys are developing on their watch, but recruiting is the lifeblood of a program and it's even more so at Miami because we reside in the state of elite DBs. Relative to our access to said talent, our ability to sign them has been downright incompetent at best and negligent at worst. I'll say this, hiring Rumph and whiffing on all the talent he personally coached from Pop Warner thru HS is one of the biggest fails in UM recruiting history.

 

[caneofny]

Potato, pototo on which one of these guys is performing worse.

We can go back and forth on whether or not guys are developing on their watch, but recruiting is the lifeblood of a program and it's even more so at Miami because we reside in the state of elite DBs. Relative to our access to said talent, our ability to sign them has been downright incompetent at best and negligent at worst. I'll say this, hiring Rumph and whiffing on all the talent he personally coached from Pop Warner thru HS is one of the biggest fails in UM recruiting history.

is it an indictment of Rumph or of how bad the program is? I’m legit asking. If the kids can see the dumpster fire, loyalty only goes so far...ya know? Again, not sticking up for him, legit asking.

 

[Daperfectstorm]

Again for all of the morons on this hoe *** forum. There is absolutely no comparison between Rumph & Banda. One is noticeably worse than the other, and that's the bottom line.

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It took me 5 minutes to find Rumph......nooooooo comparison

 

[simplycanes]

is it an indictment of Rumph or of how bad the program is? I’m legit asking. If the kids can see the dumpster fire, loyalty only goes so far...ya know? Again, not sticking up for him, legit asking.

A little chicken and the egg, IMO.

In 2017, we did stumble down the stretch, but there was plenty to sell and we unquestionably underperformed in recruiting, almost exclusively on defense. That's bizarre because it was our D that was making all the highlight reels.

There's also enough depth in DB classes down here that even if we miss on top names, we should be able to salvage a respectable class relative to the ACC, but we don't. We overlook kids or arrive too late after chasing whales. I've heard from reputable HS coaches, even some that post here, that will tell you we're extremely late and lackadaisical trying to stay on kids when we do show interest.

 

[caneofny]

A little chicken and the egg, IMO.

In 2017, we did stumble down the stretch, but there was plenty to sell and we unquestionably underperformed in recruiting, almost exclusively on defense. That's bizarre because it was our D that was making all the highlight reels.

There's also enough depth in DB classes down here that even if we miss on top names, we should be able to salvage a respectable class relative to the ACC, but we don't. We overlook kids or arrive too late after chasing whales. I've heard from reputable HS coaches, even some that post here, that will tell you we're extremely late and lackadaisical trying to stay on kids when we do show interest.

good info. And I don’t get it. Laziness? And are so fl kids not loyal? I know where I’m from the pride of being a NYer is large. I can’t imagine turning on my city. But if program is that bad I guess I can’t blame them.

 

[BJ305]

Man, listen --

I'm all for trashing Rumph's recruiting this cycle. But for the love of God, keep that same energy with Banda who has easily done a worse job recruiting than Rumph has.

Banda got us a stud in bubba bolden gurvan hall, coached up redwine and jaquan johnson , way more then rumph has done

 

[simplycanes]

good info. And I don’t get it. Laziness? And are so fl kids not loyal? I know where I’m from the pride of being a NYer is large. I can’t imagine turning on my city. But if program is that bad I guess I can’t blame them.

Just my opinion, but there's kids like Duke Johnson who were committed to Miami in the womb but they also were around when UM meant a lot more than it does now because we were winning. I recall the Major Wright recruitment under Coker. UM showed up and just basically expected he was in the class. UF was relentless, absolutely relentless. That was when the problem first surfaced and IMO UM has been battling that mindset ever since. We've tried bandaids like taking commits way early, etc. but then we stumble on the field at the same time we let up on staying on kids.

But, again, IMO the challenge is when we get hot, if we get hot, we get complacent and when we're not, we're far too passive still.

I also don't love a lot of our evaluations. I think dropping kids like Flemming from MNW are the type of program killing decisions that keep us stuck here. I don't care if someone's best offer is Nebraska, or whatever. Fast kids putting up #s at inner-city Miami HS is what we killed people with for decades. I'm not saying you take every kid that plays at these schools, but follow the production and the speed. I look at Schwartz @ Auburn, Atwell @ Louisville and soon to be Flemming at wherever and think that the speed we let leave the area is mind-blowing. Teams are legitimate faster than we are now. That's crazy.

Same crap @ DB.

 

[BJ305]

what about bandy and blades? They're having quality seasons too.

Bandy disapointed me thought he would be an all acc
1st team type of player this year, going in the 2 or 3rd round in this year draft,now his draft stock dropped and he has to come back to miami

 

[Canegrad89]

Rumph's unit was part of the #1 pass defense in all of CFB in 2018. The CBs on that unit were not elite 5-star recruits. Rumph coaches up his players.

Rumph gets a lot of heat on CIS because he hasn't always landed the top CBs in SoFl. Last year he did well closing strong with Christian Williams (against stiff competition).

This year, his recruiting isn't going as well. 6-6 on the season. Coincidence. I think not.

You can't hound him to bring in ONLY elite 5-star players and then be disappointed when he swings & misses on those 5-star players as the odds are simply much lower for those kids, especially with a poor season as the backdrop. He's also competing against schools with heavy bags for those elite kids. He should however have had a better plan in place for back-ups to the 5-star kids and we should be in a better spot currently for our CB recruiting. You have to get it done no matter what.

Trust me, I'd love him to find a way to reel in the big fish come **** or high water. This is Miami after all. Legends like Sean Taylor, Ed Reed and Bennie Blades have patrolled the backfield for us. Those are some of the best safeties ever to play the game (far better than the average 5-star recruit). Taylor was on the road to being THE best safety ever in the NFL. Reed is by all accounts in the top 3 safeties in NFL history & he was a freak in college. They took over FSU games from the backfield and turned defense into offense. It was magical to watch.

Rumph gets too much heat on here. He's a good coach that simply needs to continue to refine his recruiting game, continue to build strong relationships with local HS coaches, get on promising kids early and work his a@@ off to close on the best players. We need coaches on the team that know what it takes to be elite & that have won championships. Rumph went through that as part of the single greatest collection of talent ever assembled in CFB. He won a MNC & competed at the highest levels. We need people with that knowledge as part of our program. They know exactly what it takes to be a champion.

 

[Turnoverchaincane]

Any chance the Cane's will move on from him? He doesn't develop any of our CBs. He rarely puts our CBs in the NFL and when he does they are late draft picks. Our CBs have poor technique and constantly have their back turned when the ball is in the air. He's a poor recruiter tbh... He just lost a recruiting battle to UCF and the only CB we have in this class is Marcus Clark who is converting from WR. It wouldn't effect our class if we moved on from him. It might be the perfect time in my opinion

Rumph = Legend

Go Canes!!!!!

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Again for all of the morons on this hoe *** forum. There is absolutely no comparison between Rumph & Banda. One is noticeably worse than the other, and that's the bottom line.

2020 Football Recruiter Rankings

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According to the (obtuse) metric on the site you posted, Rumph outrecruited Banda in 2019, 2017, 2016, and had a higher recruit average in 2018.

So which one is noticeably worse, bc according to the numbers and rankings, it's Banda.

For the record, they both suck at recruiting in case that wasnt clear.